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Whassa riot and whassa self defence?

Other than controlling the narrative that is…..

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Jimmers
Jimmers
1 year ago

#two tier kier.

Interested
Interested
1 year ago

The media are the enemy. If you don’t like funding people who hate you, it’s all free via archive.ph.

John
John
1 year ago

Even by current standards the second one is utterly shameful as the narrative completely contradicts the bullshit “in defence of their communities” headline.

Unless, to use an old sporting cliche, attack is the best form of defence. But only for one team.

This feral hunting and attacking in packs mirrors what we have become accustomed seeing in US inner cities, always with isolated white men and boys as the victims.

Simon Neale
Simon Neale
1 year ago

A simple matter of legal definitions, here. It’s when the police are “braced”.

Boganboy
Boganboy
1 year ago

As Steve has pointed out, it’s like the difference between asylum seekers and settlers.

By the way, I was interested to see that Hasina has evidently been told by UK officials that asylum seekers should stop in the first safe country they come too. However I don’t think India wants her.

Ottokring
Ottokring
1 year ago

Boges,

Her niece in Tooting can put her up.

🙂

Jonathan
Jonathan
1 year ago

One is supported by the Establishment, the other is not.

Grist
Grist
1 year ago

Orwell had it right about English Lefties…

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 year ago

Roughly speaking:

Self-defence, in UK law, is using force that was reasonable in the circumstances as the persons present believed them to be in order to defend themselves or others, to prevent crime or to protect property.

Riot, in UK law, is 12 or more persons present together who use or threaten unlawful violence (though not necessarily simultaneously) for a common purpose and whose conduct (taken together) is such as would cause a reasonable person to fear for his personal safety.

The issues here are whether journos, politicos etc understand these definitions and whether the law is being correctly applied.

Ottokring
Ottokring
1 year ago

While we’re here

Can anyone explain why there is no actual news in the online Telegraph ?

JuliaM
1 year ago

I cannot decide whether the idiot WMP cop who gave an interview explicitly confirming the farce’s #twotierpolicing is too thick to realise that’s what he’d done, or simply arrogant enough to know that he’d face no sanction or even condemnation for it…

https://x.com/SkyNews/status/1820881508413899082

SadButMadLad
SadButMadLad
1 year ago

Both Julia. He is thick (probably only got one brain cell) but also arrogant because of the corruption and wokiness above him.

Marius
Marius
1 year ago

The Times coverage has been spectacularly dishonest and biased throughout. They’ve also removed the ability to comment from every story.

The Terriblegraph started out much the same, but I think they realised they were losing the readership.

Steve
Steve
1 year ago

Hopefully people aren’t stupid enough to go after a list of “targets” helpfully posted on the internet by policemen.

By the way, city centre hotels are completely indefensible.

philip
philip
1 year ago

Two tier Kier
Tin eared Kier
No tears Kier
Shit stir Kier

The Sun headlines write themselves.

Steve
Steve
1 year ago

Piss Cock Starmer

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 year ago

OT. Question for Tim. Why don’t you have a link to link to Julia’s blog over on the right hand side? At one time it linked from her name in posts. But that seems to have gone. It’s a good blog but just can’t remember its name & the bookmark’s on a machine I don’t use any more. Always nice to know what’s going on in the wilds of Essex.
At least half the sites you do link to have become moribund. sgtstryker.com now seems to football centric & in what looks like Vietnamese. Desert Sun hasn’t updated since 2020. Last time I corresponded with Tim he seemed to have become Family Man & blogging was not allowed on the instructions of the management. dailyablution is now cookery in French.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 year ago

Wouldn’t think it’d be hard to do. You can see it in the source code.

JuliaM
1 year ago

@BiS, odd that you can’t go from my name in comments, you always used to be able to – perhaps an artifact of the new blog design, as I see it doesn’t produce the clickable link anymore, even for the author’s own comments?

JuliaM
1 year ago

Actually, scratch that – it does link the name, just gives no visual clue that it’s a link! Just tried it myself.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 year ago

Haven’t spoken with him for ages. We had some discourse on alternative lifestyles, which he used to feature a lot. Exclusively the disasters. I was trying to convince him, the only one’s you would ever hear about would be those sort of people. People with successful alternate lifestyles generally don’t talk about them. Essentially, that’s why they’re successful. They’re not for people with big egos.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 year ago

You’re now bookmarked Julia. And looking at the URL, not surprised I couldn’t remember it. Doesn’t exactly role off the tongue does it?

I did wonder, because otherwise would be the point of having “website” in the comment form field? I suspect there’s a box not been ticked.

Oh you’re another Umbrella Academy fan! Takes a certain sort of person to enjoy that. You have to have taste for the surreal. Don’t know if you can get it on NetflixUK but Sky Rojo’s quite good.

PJF
PJF
1 year ago

This can bring the OT back to T:

https://www.marketingweek.com/beating-old-media-in-a-fisk-fight-is-as-easy-as-falling-off-a-blog/

Nearly two decades later and nothing has changed except the rise of social media undercutting the blogs.
The “MSM” is still the mainstream media, we’re still being invaded.

Steve
Steve
1 year ago

PJF – I wouldn’t say nothing has changed, there’s a completely different vibe now to 2005.

John
John
1 year ago

BBC News headline

Derek Drummond, 58, was given a three-year sentence for punching a police officer during violence in Southport.
Declan Geiran, 29, was jailed for two years and five months for violent disorder and setting fire to a police vehicle

Arrested tried and convicted in less than a week. Fair enough considering the crimes.

Has anyone seen trial reports for the Romany man who set fire to the bus in Harehills nearly three weeks ago or the other two men who fought the police and broke a policewoman’s nose at Manchester airport two weeks ago?

Joe Smith
Joe Smith
1 year ago

Two Tier Justice

Swannypol
Swannypol
1 year ago

I have come to realise that the difference between a riot and a peaceful protest is mostly what the police do.

PJF
PJF
1 year ago

– there’s a completely different vibe now to 2005.

I can’t say I feel it, Steve, but I’m not on social media so maybe I’m missing things.

Steve
Steve
1 year ago

PJF – me neither, social media is bad for people.

Steve
Steve
1 year ago

But, vibing:

Britain 2005: vaguely optimistic, property shows and Come Dine With Me watching general reasonable contentment (with unease beginning to creep in over Islamic terrorism). 2005 was irreverent and fun.

Britain 2024: Middle class horse Mums tell me their theories about how Covid vaccines are a bioweapon in the waiting room of the vets, and chartered accountants bring up The Great Replacement as dinner conversation after one sip of Châteauneuf. (At my wife Hyacinth’s fabulous candlelight soirée, I am a Neanderthal pleb who is still asking himself, well, how did I get here?)

I miss 2005.

Chernyy Drakon
Chernyy Drakon
1 year ago

Damn Steve,
Your dinner parties sound cool.
Can I get an invite?
😛

Ottokring
Ottokring
1 year ago

It looks like the authorities and media were massively hoaxed yesterday ( Wednesday ) with threats of 100 riots across the country. Rozzers, Antifa and Muslim Defence League out in force, while everybody else was watching the 400m final.

JuliaM
1 year ago

@BiS: yes, Netflix is the go-to for ‘Umbrella Academy’ here in the uk.

@Ottokring: it’s rather pathetic that the cops and antifa seem to think that they’ve scared away the big bad racists, instead of being utterly suckered into extending themselves for no good reason.

Boganboy
Boganboy
1 year ago

Otto

‘while everybody else was watching the 400m final.’ Those are the Brits I know!!

Steve
Steve
1 year ago

CD – you would be very welcome.

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