The media are the enemy. If you don’t like funding people who hate you, it’s all free via archive.ph.
John
Even by current standards the second one is utterly shameful as the narrative completely contradicts the bullshit “in defence of their communities” headline.
Unless, to use an old sporting cliche, attack is the best form of defence. But only for one team.
This feral hunting and attacking in packs mirrors what we have become accustomed seeing in US inner cities, always with isolated white men and boys as the victims.
Simon Neale
A simple matter of legal definitions, here. It’s when the police are “braced”.
Boganboy
As Steve has pointed out, it’s like the difference between asylum seekers and settlers.
By the way, I was interested to see that Hasina has evidently been told by UK officials that asylum seekers should stop in the first safe country they come too. However I don’t think India wants her.
Ottokring
Boges,
Her niece in Tooting can put her up.
🙂
Jonathan
One is supported by the Establishment, the other is not.
Grist
Orwell had it right about English Lefties…
Theophrastus
Roughly speaking:
Self-defence, in UK law, is using force that was reasonable in the circumstances as the persons present believed them to be in order to defend themselves or others, to prevent crime or to protect property.
Riot, in UK law, is 12 or more persons present together who use or threaten unlawful violence (though not necessarily simultaneously) for a common purpose and whose conduct (taken together) is such as would cause a reasonable person to fear for his personal safety.
The issues here are whether journos, politicos etc understand these definitions and whether the law is being correctly applied.
Ottokring
While we’re here
Can anyone explain why there is no actual news in the online Telegraph ?
I cannot decide whether the idiot WMP cop who gave an interview explicitly confirming the farce’s #twotierpolicing is too thick to realise that’s what he’d done, or simply arrogant enough to know that he’d face no sanction or even condemnation for it…
Both Julia. He is thick (probably only got one brain cell) but also arrogant because of the corruption and wokiness above him.
Marius
The Times coverage has been spectacularly dishonest and biased throughout. They’ve also removed the ability to comment from every story.
The Terriblegraph started out much the same, but I think they realised they were losing the readership.
Steve
Hopefully people aren’t stupid enough to go after a list of “targets” helpfully posted on the internet by policemen.
By the way, city centre hotels are completely indefensible.
philip
Two tier Kier
Tin eared Kier
No tears Kier
Shit stir Kier
The Sun headlines write themselves.
Steve
Piss Cock Starmer
bloke in spain
OT. Question for Tim. Why don’t you have a link to link to Julia’s blog over on the right hand side? At one time it linked from her name in posts. But that seems to have gone. It’s a good blog but just can’t remember its name & the bookmark’s on a machine I don’t use any more. Always nice to know what’s going on in the wilds of Essex.
At least half the sites you do link to have become moribund. sgtstryker.com now seems to football centric & in what looks like Vietnamese. Desert Sun hasn’t updated since 2020. Last time I corresponded with Tim he seemed to have become Family Man & blogging was not allowed on the instructions of the management. dailyablution is now cookery in French.
Tim Worstall
Haven’t looked at all of that for at least a decade. Scott, I think, died? Tim N’s around on Twitter.
bloke in spain
Wouldn’t think it’d be hard to do. You can see it in the source code.
@BiS, odd that you can’t go from my name in comments, you always used to be able to – perhaps an artifact of the new blog design, as I see it doesn’t produce the clickable link anymore, even for the author’s own comments?
Actually, scratch that – it does link the name, just gives no visual clue that it’s a link! Just tried it myself.
bloke in spain
Haven’t spoken with him for ages. We had some discourse on alternative lifestyles, which he used to feature a lot. Exclusively the disasters. I was trying to convince him, the only one’s you would ever hear about would be those sort of people. People with successful alternate lifestyles generally don’t talk about them. Essentially, that’s why they’re successful. They’re not for people with big egos.
bloke in spain
You’re now bookmarked Julia. And looking at the URL, not surprised I couldn’t remember it. Doesn’t exactly role off the tongue does it?
I did wonder, because otherwise would be the point of having “website” in the comment form field? I suspect there’s a box not been ticked.
Oh you’re another Umbrella Academy fan! Takes a certain sort of person to enjoy that. You have to have taste for the surreal. Don’t know if you can get it on NetflixUK but Sky Rojo’s quite good.
Nearly two decades later and nothing has changed except the rise of social media undercutting the blogs.
The “MSM” is still the mainstream media, we’re still being invaded.
Steve
PJF – I wouldn’t say nothing has changed, there’s a completely different vibe now to 2005.
John
BBC News headline
Derek Drummond, 58, was given a three-year sentence for punching a police officer during violence in Southport.
Declan Geiran, 29, was jailed for two years and five months for violent disorder and setting fire to a police vehicle
Arrested tried and convicted in less than a week. Fair enough considering the crimes.
Has anyone seen trial reports for the Romany man who set fire to the bus in Harehills nearly three weeks ago or the other two men who fought the police and broke a policewoman’s nose at Manchester airport two weeks ago?
Joe Smith
Two Tier Justice
Swannypol
I have come to realise that the difference between a riot and a peaceful protest is mostly what the police do.
PJF
– there’s a completely different vibe now to 2005.
I can’t say I feel it, Steve, but I’m not on social media so maybe I’m missing things.
Steve
PJF – me neither, social media is bad for people.
Steve
But, vibing:
Britain 2005: vaguely optimistic, property shows and Come Dine With Me watching general reasonable contentment (with unease beginning to creep in over Islamic terrorism). 2005 was irreverent and fun.
Britain 2024: Middle class horse Mums tell me their theories about how Covid vaccines are a bioweapon in the waiting room of the vets, and chartered accountants bring up The Great Replacement as dinner conversation after one sip of Châteauneuf. (At my wife Hyacinth’s fabulous candlelight soirée, I am a Neanderthal pleb who is still asking himself, well, how did I get here?)
I miss 2005.
Chernyy Drakon
Damn Steve,
Your dinner parties sound cool.
Can I get an invite?
😛
Ottokring
It looks like the authorities and media were massively hoaxed yesterday ( Wednesday ) with threats of 100 riots across the country. Rozzers, Antifa and Muslim Defence League out in force, while everybody else was watching the 400m final.
@BiS: yes, Netflix is the go-to for ‘Umbrella Academy’ here in the uk.
@Ottokring: it’s rather pathetic that the cops and antifa seem to think that they’ve scared away the big bad racists, instead of being utterly suckered into extending themselves for no good reason.
Boganboy
Otto
‘while everybody else was watching the 400m final.’ Those are the Brits I know!!
#two tier kier.
The media are the enemy. If you don’t like funding people who hate you, it’s all free via archive.ph.
Even by current standards the second one is utterly shameful as the narrative completely contradicts the bullshit “in defence of their communities” headline.
Unless, to use an old sporting cliche, attack is the best form of defence. But only for one team.
This feral hunting and attacking in packs mirrors what we have become accustomed seeing in US inner cities, always with isolated white men and boys as the victims.
A simple matter of legal definitions, here. It’s when the police are “braced”.
As Steve has pointed out, it’s like the difference between asylum seekers and settlers.
By the way, I was interested to see that Hasina has evidently been told by UK officials that asylum seekers should stop in the first safe country they come too. However I don’t think India wants her.
Boges,
Her niece in Tooting can put her up.
🙂
One is supported by the Establishment, the other is not.
Orwell had it right about English Lefties…
Roughly speaking:
Self-defence, in UK law, is using force that was reasonable in the circumstances as the persons present believed them to be in order to defend themselves or others, to prevent crime or to protect property.
Riot, in UK law, is 12 or more persons present together who use or threaten unlawful violence (though not necessarily simultaneously) for a common purpose and whose conduct (taken together) is such as would cause a reasonable person to fear for his personal safety.
The issues here are whether journos, politicos etc understand these definitions and whether the law is being correctly applied.
While we’re here
Can anyone explain why there is no actual news in the online Telegraph ?
I cannot decide whether the idiot WMP cop who gave an interview explicitly confirming the farce’s #twotierpolicing is too thick to realise that’s what he’d done, or simply arrogant enough to know that he’d face no sanction or even condemnation for it…
https://x.com/SkyNews/status/1820881508413899082
Both Julia. He is thick (probably only got one brain cell) but also arrogant because of the corruption and wokiness above him.
The Times coverage has been spectacularly dishonest and biased throughout. They’ve also removed the ability to comment from every story.
The Terriblegraph started out much the same, but I think they realised they were losing the readership.
Hopefully people aren’t stupid enough to go after a list of “targets” helpfully posted on the internet by policemen.
By the way, city centre hotels are completely indefensible.
Two tier Kier
Tin eared Kier
No tears Kier
Shit stir Kier
The Sun headlines write themselves.
Piss Cock Starmer
OT. Question for Tim. Why don’t you have a link to link to Julia’s blog over on the right hand side? At one time it linked from her name in posts. But that seems to have gone. It’s a good blog but just can’t remember its name & the bookmark’s on a machine I don’t use any more. Always nice to know what’s going on in the wilds of Essex.
At least half the sites you do link to have become moribund. sgtstryker.com now seems to football centric & in what looks like Vietnamese. Desert Sun hasn’t updated since 2020. Last time I corresponded with Tim he seemed to have become Family Man & blogging was not allowed on the instructions of the management. dailyablution is now cookery in French.
Haven’t looked at all of that for at least a decade. Scott, I think, died? Tim N’s around on Twitter.
Wouldn’t think it’d be hard to do. You can see it in the source code.
@BiS, odd that you can’t go from my name in comments, you always used to be able to – perhaps an artifact of the new blog design, as I see it doesn’t produce the clickable link anymore, even for the author’s own comments?
Actually, scratch that – it does link the name, just gives no visual clue that it’s a link! Just tried it myself.
Haven’t spoken with him for ages. We had some discourse on alternative lifestyles, which he used to feature a lot. Exclusively the disasters. I was trying to convince him, the only one’s you would ever hear about would be those sort of people. People with successful alternate lifestyles generally don’t talk about them. Essentially, that’s why they’re successful. They’re not for people with big egos.
You’re now bookmarked Julia. And looking at the URL, not surprised I couldn’t remember it. Doesn’t exactly role off the tongue does it?
I did wonder, because otherwise would be the point of having “website” in the comment form field? I suspect there’s a box not been ticked.
Oh you’re another Umbrella Academy fan! Takes a certain sort of person to enjoy that. You have to have taste for the surreal. Don’t know if you can get it on NetflixUK but Sky Rojo’s quite good.
This can bring the OT back to T:
https://www.marketingweek.com/beating-old-media-in-a-fisk-fight-is-as-easy-as-falling-off-a-blog/
Nearly two decades later and nothing has changed except the rise of social media undercutting the blogs.
The “MSM” is still the mainstream media, we’re still being invaded.
PJF – I wouldn’t say nothing has changed, there’s a completely different vibe now to 2005.
BBC News headline
Derek Drummond, 58, was given a three-year sentence for punching a police officer during violence in Southport.
Declan Geiran, 29, was jailed for two years and five months for violent disorder and setting fire to a police vehicle
Arrested tried and convicted in less than a week. Fair enough considering the crimes.
Has anyone seen trial reports for the Romany man who set fire to the bus in Harehills nearly three weeks ago or the other two men who fought the police and broke a policewoman’s nose at Manchester airport two weeks ago?
Two Tier Justice
I have come to realise that the difference between a riot and a peaceful protest is mostly what the police do.
– there’s a completely different vibe now to 2005.
I can’t say I feel it, Steve, but I’m not on social media so maybe I’m missing things.
PJF – me neither, social media is bad for people.
But, vibing:
Britain 2005: vaguely optimistic, property shows and Come Dine With Me watching general reasonable contentment (with unease beginning to creep in over Islamic terrorism). 2005 was irreverent and fun.
Britain 2024: Middle class horse Mums tell me their theories about how Covid vaccines are a bioweapon in the waiting room of the vets, and chartered accountants bring up The Great Replacement as dinner conversation after one sip of Châteauneuf. (At my wife Hyacinth’s fabulous candlelight soirée, I am a Neanderthal pleb who is still asking himself, well, how did I get here?)
I miss 2005.
Damn Steve,
Your dinner parties sound cool.
Can I get an invite?
😛
It looks like the authorities and media were massively hoaxed yesterday ( Wednesday ) with threats of 100 riots across the country. Rozzers, Antifa and Muslim Defence League out in force, while everybody else was watching the 400m final.
@BiS: yes, Netflix is the go-to for ‘Umbrella Academy’ here in the uk.
@Ottokring: it’s rather pathetic that the cops and antifa seem to think that they’ve scared away the big bad racists, instead of being utterly suckered into extending themselves for no good reason.
Otto
‘while everybody else was watching the 400m final.’ Those are the Brits I know!!
CD – you would be very welcome.