Public fears GPs would encourage assisted dying to ease NHS pressures, poll finds
Somewhere between rational fear and a statement of the bleedon’ obvious, innit?
Public fears GPs would encourage assisted dying to ease NHS pressures, poll finds
Somewhere between rational fear and a statement of the bleedon’ obvious, innit?
We’ve seen what happened in Canada.
We’ve seen what happens in NHS hospitals.
I saw a cartoon about Health Systems Around the World, where a doctor is talking to a patient :
USA: That will be $160,000 please.
UK : Your next appointment is 3pm 23 January 2056.
Canada : Have you considered euthanasia ?
Harold Shipman was ahead of his time
We saw what happened with Covid.
I think the solution to the problem of reducing the NHS waiting list is perfectly feasible given TTK’s “ruthless” mindset toward the majority of the population. Reeves and Ed have already made a start. Heating your home will become either impossible or incredibly expensive and you ain’t getting no help from us…
What exactly is the objection? I accept that in due course I will be dead. I fully intend to make the dying part as brief & enjoyable as possible. Why are people determined to stop me doing that? Dying is the one thing you’re guaranteed not to regret doing. Always seems to me utter selfishness.
Ottokring, I think the captions need a bit of editing to reflect the actual responses. The USA one needs to have added to it ; “and when accounts have told me it’s cleared funds, we’ll go ahead with the cure”.
The NHS would have you fill in a questionnaire to ensure you are not a far right racist before they even give you an appointment. Even so, the date seems a tad too soon…
The current practice is for people at the end of their lives to have to roll over (if they can) to face the wall and refuse food. The hospital staff will then extend the patient’s life for as long as possible. It’s painful, undignified and an awful way for anyone to die.
Murder is very different from releasing someone from pointless suffering. It was good enough for George V why not for the rest of us?
Grist
Lol
I reckon the Canadian one should actually be
“Here drink this…”
It was good enough for George V why not for the rest of us?
C’mon, grampa, get in the suicide booth – it’s by appointment to HM The King!
The question here isn’t whether assisted dying is a good thing or not. It’s whether the person you go to and trust when you think you might be dying (but don’t want to die) should also have a sideline in which he in fact assists people to die.
Patients are routinely helped into the next world. Not always voluntarily.
But give the GP the right to refer the patient to assisted dying and pretty soon the wait will be 85 years.
(I’m currently waiting for three referrals to fructify into actual appointments. Only one is for a life-threatening disease)
@P,S The answer is to have a separate profession. Perhaps a suitably cold-hearted mob to recruit from would be lawyers. Especially former heads of yer prosecuting authority.
Or choose ’em from descendants of our last hangman.
Working from memory, but I believe one of the Scandinavian countries legalized doctors helping people die, but were very, very careful to put all the proper controls around it so it’d be limited to reducing suffering for those about to die, etc. A few years later & doctors admit in surveys that they’ve made the decision for patients in some cases.
That said, the idea that people can escape needless suffering certainly seems reasonable.
A thorny issue this seems to me.
I’d also note, that in the U.S. several governors ordered old age care homes to accept patients with the China virus in order to keep the hospitals from filling up. Give a bureaucrat a goal and it’s very common to see them forget about everything else. “You euthanized everyone at the nursing home” – “Yes, but our statistics on deaths from the virus are now very good!”
And one last bit – a lot of people in the U.S. who had some doubts about getting the experimental gene therapy (later classified as a vaccine because they changed the very definition) had discussions with their GP. Only later did they find out that their GP was getting bonuses for every one of their patients that got the jab.
Esteban – remember the vaccines were SO safe and effective, you literally weren’t allowed to question them and the British government felt entitled to threaten you with permanent exclusion from society if you didn’t get them?
Thousands seek compensation after Covid vaccines ‘left them disabled’
Payments have been awarded for conditions including stroke, heart attack, blood clots, inflammation of the spinal cord and facial paralysis – yesterday’s Telegraph
The entire machinery of the British government has long since moved on to fresh scams and hoaxes, natch. But they’re mistaken if they think they’ve gotten away with Covid.
I have no problem with choosing one’s exit, with or without professional help say by some credentialed executioner completely removed from the medical profession. The NHS provides very little incentives to doctors to keep us alive and many abandoned their post for financial benefit to inject a brand new product of no known efficacy, side effects short or longterm. Don’t encourage them!
PS – Monkeypox is in the news (I prefer the original band name, not ‘Mpox’):
Harun Tulunay who was hospitalised for 11 days in June 2022 with an earlier variant of mpox was among those calling for urgent action to protect those at risk.
Mr Tulunay was among the estimated two thousand Londoners affected by the virus, but has since made a full recovery.
“As a community, we’ve been advocating for the government and UKHSA to establish a permanent mpox vaccination program, given that research indicates the vaccine offers some level of protection”, he told the Standard.
“However, rather than embracing this preventive measure, the government has allowed the issue to slip by without taking action.
“We still lack a vaccination program, and if we want to stay ahead of the virus before it spreads further, we need to initiate vaccinations for target groups as soon as possible.”
Mmmkay. Guy who caught Monkeypox thinks there should be a vaccination program. That’s the setup.
Here’s the punchline:
Harun Tulunay
Born in Turkey, Harun moved to the UK in 2015 to escape anti-LGBT+ hostility and discrimination. When he was diagnosed with HIV in 2016, he chose to become an ambassador for good sexual and mental health, volunteering for several London-based charities. In 2020, he decided to devote himself fully to HIV support work.
Comedy is subjective, Mur-ray.
Ljh
That Turkish guy from the Olympis rates are quute reasinable, I am led to believe.
Harun moved to the UK in 2015 to escape anti-LGBT+ hostility and discrimination. When he was diagnosed with HIV in 2016…
Can you see a connection between those two things? I’m sure I can’t.
Doctors.
Lawyers.
Engineers.
HIV support workers.
We are truly blessed. At least we might be if there were actually any of the first three.
I mean, it’s a little prim to complain that the government isn’t doing more to protect him from the diseases he’s willingly exposing himself to.
But what are you gonna do, ask gay fellas to not have drug-fuelled unprotected homosexual intercourse with every willing bum they encounter, especially when they already have HIV?
Because, candidly, that’s Naziism and I’m pretty sure Theresa May added man-orgies to the list of official British values.
Mpox? That’s a type of nuclear reactor, isn’t it?
So Harun didn’t learn his lesson about unprotected sex the first time. No condoms for harun, but I expect he always wore a covid face mask
@Paul, Somerset – “The question here isn’t whether assisted dying is a good thing or not. It’s whether the person you go to and trust when you think you might be dying (but don’t want to die) should also have a sideline in which he in fact assists people to die.”
Well, since that’s the current situation, you are presumably a keen supporter of assisted suicide. (But not assisted dying, which dispenses with the need for consent).
The NHS should provide one shot Derringers and whisky ( or vodka ) on prescription.
Although there is always the danger of doing a “Stulpnagel”when attempting the deed.
This is ridiculous – as Canada has shown, doctors will push suicide for the lulz without any other incentive.