A 20-month prison sentence handed to a 77-year-old woman for a climate protest on the M25 is disproportionate, unjust and a waste of resources, the Green MP Carla Denyer has said.
In a letter to Yvette Cooper, the home secretary, Denyer called the jailing of Gaie Delap three weeks ago “an example of an ongoing and serious problem with disproportionate sentencing for climate activists”.
Some might call that trying to overcome the rule of law…..
I agree the sentence was disproportionate. Lets be generous and estimate on the low side, so 700,000 drivers delayed by lets say an average of 1 hour each. That’s roughly 100 years of people years deliberately wasted by the 6 protestors. So rather than a 21 months sentence perhaps to be proportionate we could take that 100 and divide it up between the 6 protestors giving them an average of 14 years each.
Two thoughts here.
The first is that Denyer is either tone deaf or is trying to take the piss when people she would castigate as “far right” are getting longer sentences for shouting at police dogs or tweeting reasonable opinions from home that nobody is forced to read.
The second is more of a question. How does Starmer getting all adenoidal and stressy in broadcasts actually lead to learned judges suddenly dishing out ridiculously disproportionate sentences? I mean, what is the mechanism? Are they all called in for drinks at Downing Street? Does Shabana Mahmood fire off an email in capitals? Or is it more of an old boy network thing, where a word is enough to get everyone thinking about future honours?
Either way, I think we are in deep trouble. Every branch of the state seems to be as bent as fuck.
So many of these climate activist morons are elderly grannies, presumably because there is an expectation that the law will be gentle on them. Sentences like this are needed to deter them from behaving in such antisocial ways. Maybe the prospect of granny not being able to babysit the sprogs will also persuade their offspring to dissuade them from taking such action.
Well, if she was protesting about the climate (ho ho ho) she’s obviously not a far right thug, so the TTK approved sentence would be “Say sorry!”
The stiff sentences for some of the climate protesters must have come as a surprise. Something went wrong. Generally the penalties had been fairly trivial if at all. But the climate protesters are taking on the people. And their aims aren’t much different from the State’s. Essentially, they’re both on the same side. The “far-right’ rioters – mostly working class Labour voters in northern constituencies – were taking on the State & its favoured groups. Can’t be allowed & rewarded with exemplary punishments.
Either way, I think we are in deep trouble. Every branch of the state seems to be as bent as fuck.
You think things have changed?
Trouble is, the Carla Denyers we suffer from have all been brainwashed to thinking that the planet really is going to fry this century and so any action taken towards preventing it is right, whatever the law says. It makes me wish basic physics should be compulsory to GCSE so we might have a minuscule chance of getting them to think. Yes, I know, flying pigs.
As prison clearly isn’t sufficient of a deterrent a serious six preferably seven figure fine secured by a charge on her home along with confiscation of any other assets (particularly her car) would be better all round.
Cancellation of passports to prevent succumbing to the temptation of exotic overseas holidays should be automatic in such cases.,
I doubt if her family would be quite so supportive if their inheritance was lost as a result of granny’s posturing.
Tractor Gent,
Thing is, even *THE SCIENCE* doesn’t say that. 2 degrees hotter means Tunbridge Wells is like Reims. Reims is a bit more like Lyon. A few places may become inhospitable, but so what? We’ve got 75 years to move everyone a few hundred miles. Plus some bits of Scotland and Chile become more habitable.
Personally, I’d just like to see at least one independent effect. Like the price of beach houses in the Seychelles falling. Or insurance rates in some places rising. Or that some growers pack up because it’s now too hot in bits of Africa. People who aren’t NGOs, government, academics or corrupt businesses saying that its happening.
Some might call that trying to overcome the rule of law…..
Are you sure about that? Parliament is the legislative body so corresponding with the home secretary is political. Corresponding directly with the DPP or others in the justice system would be interfering with the rule of law.
Not saying I’d want to make a habit of being fair with Green MPs. Hanging drawing & quartering would be mild objection.
I was excited by the prospect of kids in schools learning how to detect misinformation, because that would lead to them recognising that the whole climate business is a fucking lie (hoax being far too kind a word). Fat fucking chance.
Or, on reflection, burning at the stake was customary for women, wasn’t it? Although, bearing in mind environmental concerns, lengthy broiling at the stake using a small electric fan heater or even a heat pump might be more appropriate. Could go on over a very entertaining couple of days or so.
I agree with Carla Denyer, Koranic punishments are much cheaper and more effective, insha’Allah.
Highway robbery (hirabah, qat’ al-tariq). Punished with death followed by crucifixion, amputation of the right hand and the left foot (the combined right-left double amputation procedure is known as the ancient punishment of “cross-amputation”) or banishment. Different punishments are prescribed for different scenarios and there are differences of opinion regarding specifics within and between legal schools.[27][4]
SN
That bloke who shouted “You’re not English” at the dog was probably correct. Most police dogs are German shepherds.
Steve said:
“Highway robbery … Punished with death followed by crucifixion”
What’s the point of crucifying them once they’re dead?
There’s enterprising engineers who’ve put diesel generators in the boots of EVs to extend their range. I wonder if any have added winching gear, so you can lift the protestor up, swing them round and drop them in the cargo box, and be on your way. Let them out when you get to Witney
Pour encourager les autres.
Does it never strike anyone as strange that these ‘heroic’ activists never bravely stand in front of the ambulance taking their own loved ones’ to hospital? I mean, what better way could there be of showing your absolute commitment to the cause?
RichardT,
Probably trying to nail some sense in to them
https://youtu.be/1hI4zfKPZ34?si=qua-ieyiB3Tdn2zp
Richard – What’s the point of crucifying them once they’re dead?
It’s the will of Allah innit? Although the punishment for drinking Babycham is more lenient:
Drinking alcohol (shurb al-khamr).[27] Punished by 40 to 80 lashes, depending on the legal school.
I’m wondering if Carla Denyer might have a brother named Klimat?
Personally, I’d just like to see at least one independent effect
The price of olive oil has almost doubled. Just saying.
@ Some of my best friends
the price of olive oil is overwhelmingly a consequence of the EU’s Common Agricultural Policy. The climate is almost utterly irrelevant: the second-biggest influencer is the Mafia and its mainland equivalents.
The price of olive oil has almost doubled
Oh, fuck.
Quick – everybody buy heat pumps, pronto!
Brilliant whimsy by Chris
My take on the climate obsessives is that they should be made to live without anything derived from fossil fuels. Since this includes quite literally everything, it wouldn’t take them very long to either starve or freeze to death or to die of an easily preventable disease. Who can come up with an argument that this isn’t entirely just and fair considering that this is the fate that they themselves would like to inflict upon everyone else?
The price of olive oil has almost doubled. Just saying.
Odd that. Because you still can’t give olives away.
BiS – I love olives tho.
I’ve heard a lot of the olive oil in supermarkets is fake anyway, same thing with honey.
@BiS
That’s a good way of telling us how many olives there are in most olive oil.
Chris M
Actually, her brother is called Clive Matt Denyer…
I just hope she’s not related to Holly Kost-Denyer…
I’ll get mein coat.
I love olives tho.
There’s a couple of ton waiting for you if you want to come & pick them, Steve. When will you be arriving so I can get the ladders out?
BiS – brb, moved into the country, gonna eat a lot of peaches.
I should have known I couldn’t out-Steve Steve 🙂
Re olive oil (Yes, Popeye?), a large part of the problem (in Italy/Puglia, anyway) is a bacterial disease called Xylella which has led to huge swathes of ancient trees being cut down. I’ve not seen anyone try to blame Gerbil Worming for this, but I suppose it’s only a matter of time.