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Finally, an interesting question

What is clear is that on top of the substantial (in my opinion) sums paid by Lord Alli for clothes for Keir Starmer (including more than £2,000 for glasses) there were also significant payments made by the same person to provide clothes for Starmer’s wife.

OK.

And (let me add this), will he be paying tax on these gifts, which appear to be personal benefits in kind resulting from his appointment?

Ah, what fun.

25 thoughts on “Finally, an interesting question”

  1. What a bunch of grasping shits they are. Starmer is a wealthy man but accepted nearly £20k in clothing. No different from Lord Pigfucker and Bozo the Clown, who sucked up tens of thousands in free holidays during their time in office.

  2. Of course they are all amateurs. A report in 2012 estimated that Blair accepted £775,000 of free holidays during his time in office.

  3. Does Lammy’s reference to the ‘lack of a clothing allowance’ mean that the Starmers have to wear clothes more of the time since he became Prime Minister?

  4. Does Lammy’s reference to the ‘lack of a clothing allowance’ mean that the Starmers have to wear clothes more of the time since he became Prime Minister?

    It’s just more of the same grift that mrs bliar tried. Apparently we should have paid for her new outfits too.

  5. What’s even more indefensible is the special pension arrangements as DPP that the Absolute Brylcream Boy benefitted from under a special Act of Parliament for him alone.

    Everything about him is repellent and the more I learn, the more cvntish he appears.

  6. “Oversight … wasn’t aware of the rules …”

    You shouldn’t need a book of rules to tell you not to accept a gift of £20k from a third party when you’re in someone else’s employ (in this case, ours). Mind you, Bliar accepted nearly £800k worth of holidays during his tenure, which makes Two-tier look a rank amateur.

  7. S’OK, the rules allow a reasonable amount of plausible deniability when it comes to what otherwise looks like blatant greedy money-grubbing corruption.

    Trouble is, those who are supposed to oppose it, His Majesty’s loyal opposition, are up to their bloody necks in it too.

  8. When I was still working for a living, the giant intermega corporation that I worked for once had a little issue with certain salespeople helping their way clear to government contracts using the oldest inducements in the book – Peruvian sherbet fountains and ladies of negotiable virtue. As a result, every year, I had to sit through three hours of mind-numbingly stupid lectures about how you shouldn’t give, or accept, anything in the way of hookers and blow as part of doing business. As I was wont to observe at the time – chance would be a fine thing. But even without the deeply-stupid and vapid lectures, I knew that any “gift” more-significant than maybe a fancy calendar at Christmas, or a logo ball cap, was no “gift” at all, but something else, that was to be immediately and politely returned. And I simply can’t get my mind around the fact that our most-powerful and supposedly-capable leaders – on both sides of the pond – seem to be simply unable help themselves from accepting these sorts of freebies, when even a simpleton such as I can clearly see the attached strings. It can’t be that they can’t see the obvious conflicts of interest, so I have to assume that it’s that they just don’t care. And I also have to observe – why are these inducements always so trivial and banal? Some clothes and spectacles, and a frock or two for the missus? For Wales? Really?

    llater,

    llamas

  9. Dennis, Pointing Out The Obvious

    Does he have no manhood at all?

    Is this a question that even needs asking? He’s the leader of the Labour Party. He is, by definition, a complete pussy. The Labour Party wouldn’t have it any other way.

    Kind of like asking if Kamala Harris is a virgin.

  10. Dennis: the Labour party, for all the feminists amongst its membership, has had real problems putting pussy in the frame, hence ersatz pussy as at present. I could imagine them attempting to solve that problem in the future with a tranny, either false or fully filleted.

  11. ” And I simply can’t get my mind around the fact that our most-powerful and supposedly-capable leaders – on both sides of the pond – seem to be simply unable help themselves from accepting these sorts of freebies, when even a simpleton such as I can clearly see the attached strings. It can’t be that they can’t see the obvious conflicts of interest, so I have to assume that it’s that they just don’t care.”

    I think its more that they are so convinced of their own moral superiority they do not see it as any form of venality. Its akin to a Mother Teresa figure accepting donations to further their work – I’m doing good ergo the more money I’ve got to pursue my aims the better. Remember these are the people who call themselves anti-racists, but are guilty of the most blatant and vile anti-Semitism possible. Allowing themselves a free pass against their own stated ethical standards because they are ‘the goodies’ is what they do.

  12. In the military you get a uniform allowance when you are commissioned, possibly other grants on promotion, maintenance allowance and possibly (not sure) a civilian clothing on foreign postings where a different type of clothing is required.

    I think it quite acceptable that when senior members of the Government and their wives need to be seen by millions as part of their duties they should get a clothing allowance from the public purse. After all we don’t want some dressed like Corbyn giving the impression of the UK. As the public purse regrettably doesn’t do this I think it fine that gifts can fill that gap provided they are properly declared and used for that purpose.

  13. If, when serving, I’d been on a salary of £160k I’d have happily foregone the minor tax rebate I got for uniform expenses., even the reranking allowance. After initial kit issue, there were no other allowances for blues.

  14. AndyF, the wives of Primr Ministers don’t hold office and what they wear should be paid for out of earnings. We don’t have elected Heads of State and their wives or partners are not First Ladies(or Gentlemen or catamites). Ministerial salaries are high enough for them to clothe themselves. There is no £20K gift without obligation.

  15. Following that logic, andyf, anyone with a high public profile should get at least a clothing cost tax relief. And the other thing is, give them an inch & they’ll take a mile. The next thing would be all MPs (Then probably local councillors). And then the Civil Service would want their share.
    Basically, if you afford the the togs don’t take the job. After all, it’s part of what you’re paying them for.

  16. When I was promoted to Sergeant there was no allowance for dress blues so I didn’t buy them. Managed without, No2 dress for mess functions. If I’d been in a proper regiment rather than a corps the RSM would have made clear what was expected I have no doubt. Anyhow, my opinion is that you should buy your own clothes except for required uniform items which are no good for civvy purposes.

    And that Starmer is a poorly-dressesd crook.

  17. Bloke in North Dorset

    “ You shouldn’t need a book of rules to tell you not to accept a gift of £20k from a third party when you’re in someone else’s employ (in this case, ours). “

    Indeed, but we thought that before the expenses scandal and even the most cynical of us couldn’t believe their sense of self entitlement.

    It seems nothing has been learned since then.

    “Mind you, Bliar accepted nearly £800k worth of holidays during his tenure, which makes Two-tier look a rank amateur.”

    Give him a chance, he’s only been in the job 3 months and he’s already achieved 25% of that target.

  18. Bloke in North Dorset

    OT and I don’t really like raising this on a Ragging post but it’s the latest…

    Tim,

    dearime hasn’t been around for a while, if he’s got more health problems wish him well and I’m sure that will be from all of us.

  19. When I was a local councillor the tax rules were very clear: there was no allowance for anything that was usable in “normal” life.

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