Rapid intensification of Hurricane Francine is a sign of a hotter world
Oliver Milman
The storm’s winds increased 35mph in 24 hours – something that global heating is only making more common
So, yeah, we said that global warming would cause more hurricanes. But this is different, right? Climate chaos means the hurricanes are heating up faster.
Lads, make sure you get this message out, right? Because it’s embarrassing having to explain why the more hurricanes didn’t turn up……
Also: “Look on the bright side, lads, it gives us an excellent baseline to measure future years by. “
You seem to be conflating an error in a prediction by some with an explanation of an observation by others. The latter is more important. Stronger hurricanes even if there are fewer of them impose greater costs. It costs more to replace your house once every 10 years than your tiles every year. It shows that the external costs of fossil fuels use are not well internalised. Westerners pay $50 a tonne to drive SUV but Marshal Islanders loss their homes.
Jb @ 7.51, the prediction of some was that hurricanes would become more common. That didn’t happen.
The prediction of some was that the Arctic would be ice free by 2014. That didn’t happen.
The prediction of some (in 1998) was that the Maldives would be underwater in 30 years. That didn’t happen. (They had 1 international airport when I visited in 2002. Now there are 6, with more on the way).
But no matter, because whatever happens, it’s fossil fuels that are to blame……
p.s. “Westerners pay $50 a tonne to drive SUV but Marshal Islanders loss their homes”..
Rilly?:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-08/why-are-hundreds-of-pacific-islands-getting-bigger/13038430
Sorry mate, we are all entitled to our own opinions, but not our own facts.
These eco-nutters must think we don’t know how to use Google…
“By” or “to”?
Jb, please do come on here and lecture us about external costs as you rape the world for rare metals to make batteries that burn carparks down and pour billions of tons of concrete into the ocean to create giant windmills which kill birds and whales, while not providing enough power (via an as yet non-existent supply network which will again require the rape of the earth in vast mining operations to be created) to keep factory lights on and heat the homes of the thousands of pensioners who will externally-costly die because of your insane bullshit.
“The storm’s winds increased 35mph in 24 hours”
I’m pretty sure the wind can increase by 35mph in 24 hours in the UK. Still one day, a storm the next. Its hardly Armageddon.
“It costs more to replace your house once every 10 years than your tiles every year. ”
I call BS on that. If your roof tiles are ripped off by a hurricane every year you’ll be having to repair all the damage the rain pouring in has done as well, which would be extensive. And replace all the water damaged items in the home. 10 years of that would easily be more than the cost of a total rebuild.
Meanwhile, the “Global Heating” is now so bad that the Alps are getting massive dump of snow in September!
More snow, earlier snow, and hotter snow than ever!
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/09/12/september-snowmageddon-winter-outbreak-in-alps-later-this-weekup-to-3-meters-of-snow/
It’s always fascinating that the climate mob will use a single event to reinforce their argument. But when a single event is contradictory, “Oh that’s only a single event. You need to look at the trend.”
@Addolff
Yeah, I noticed a very long article, with lots of stunning photos ( last week in the Torygraph) singing the delights on the developments being done in the Maldives to attract tourism. Obviously based on a PR handout by the Maldives government. Absolutely no mention was made on the dangers of being swept out of your room-on-stilts-in-the-sea by rising sea levels. Some of the places looked they’d put up on little more than sandbanks. You’d think more than twice about doing that off Southend. I’d say follow the money on this.
“By” or “to”?
*pendant mode*
Neither.
A storm is defined as 55-63mph winds and a violent storm 64-72mph winds, so a wind that increases to 35mph wind is not a storm and a storm wind that increases by 35mph cannot remain a storm (55+35 = 90 mph and is defined as a hurricane, 73+mph.)
https://www.rmets.org/metmatters/beaufort-wind-scale
*/pendant mode*
Apparently it’s already “Hurricane” Francis, so the winds are already in that speed category.
After Mt Pinutaubo blew up there was a huge snow year. Even the Brenva glacier was skiable.
Same this year, 18 months or so after the Tonga eruption.
The idea that man makes the weather by burning fossil fuels is narcissistic bullshit.
@ Jb
Yes, of course stronger hurricanes cost more so there hasn’t been a hurricane as expensive as Katrina since 2005.
Are you claiming that “climate change” has cooled the Atlantic and been wholly beneficial for the last 19 years?
Jb says “Stronger hurricanes even if there are fewer of them impose greater costs.”
But we’re not getting more strong hurricanes. Instead of just imagining stuff (which you want to be true), go look at the data.
In the 1970s the prediction was that we were about to enter a new iceage and we’d all be under 12ft of snow. Thankfully global warmings turned up to stop that happening.
The father of Global Warming, James Hansen, correctly predicted that with warming would come less severe hurricanes, as a result of the lower temperature difference between latitudes. Eat that, Jb.
Westerners pay $50 a tonne to drive SUV
What? Fuel duty (in Europe, at least) is more than $500/tCO2e.
The whole point about “global warming” was that it would be the polar regions that would warm proportionally most – hence the rising sea levels ( not that I’ve notice anything on the south coast where I’ve lived for the past 35 years )
The basic engine of weather – the temperature difference between poles and tropics – would be turned down and it should have resulted in a calmer, less stormy planet.
The actual results was that the bollocks, hysteria and derangement is now in a runaway positive feedback loop!
The only “boiling” that seems to be apparent is milk float batteries and windmills!
A climate scientist (so absolutely beyond reproach and with no skin in the game obviously *cough*) was claiming the other day that the failure of the predicted rise in hurricanes to appear was because the climate has now heated so much that it’s broken the models