Another pandemic as big as the Covid crisis that killed 7 million people worldwide is “a certainty”, Prof Sir Chris Whitty has warned, as he said that the UK’s lack of intensive care capacity for the sickest patients was a “political choice”.
Nature wants to kill us. Another pandemic is a certainty.
But let’s not do the idiot response next time, eh?
Whitty is another Bercow. He’s got a bit of power and will use it to force us all to follow his own idiotic beliefs.
The Bloody Sunday enquiries cost £200 million. The Covid-19 one is liable to cost far more as it’s already reporting more than £50 million and some say that £85 million has already been committed.
Its findings are unlikely to make the slightest difference, as the next pandemic could be very different. For example if the virus was killing a large percentage of small children and leaving the elderly unscathed, the response should and would be very different.
The main result of this enquiry will be lining the pockets of the legal profession.
The main result of EVERY enquiry………..
All public enquiries are theatre. Nothing will be done, nothing learned.
A more vigorous and sensible enquiry could have been done in an afternoon for £500 and however much a load of piano wire costs.
The response to the next pandemic will depend on the virus not on the Covid 19 virus. Maybe it will affect you people worse than old people in which case closing schools might be an appropriate response.
These guys are just looking for an excuse to lock us all down again.
I suggest the best preparation for the next pandemic is to buy the rope and log all suitable lampposts on a Google ma now.
There was no pandemic to speak of, there was a vast overreaction by the media and medical establishments in service of some unknown goal.
Flu outbreaks of the 50s and 60s and 70s would’ve been far worse, but for the fact that most people just fucking got on with it.
What this charlatan really means is not that there will be another pandemic similar to Covid but that there will be another reaction similar to that to Covid.
All we need to do is ignore them, but of course we won’t.
We’re complicit in our own destruction.
@BiND
The response to the next pandemic will depend on the virus
What, like the last one did? Unless a majority of people realise that the response to Covid had nothing to do with the virus we have zero hope of avoiding a repeat.
For fuck’s sake, most people can’t even see that the ‘lockdowns’ didn’t work (and never could have) on the very simple (though by no means sole) basis that if they had there would have been no need for more than one if they had.
‘the UK’s lack of intensive care capacity for the sickest patients was a “political choice”.’
What lack of intensive care capacity? We put up the Nightingale Hospitals, they stood empty, and we quietly packed them away again. They must be in storage somewhere, pretty much as new.
A pal came round for tea during the early Pandemic: 2020 – we sat outside so it was probably in May. His wife was a consultant in our local World Famous Teaching Hospital.
How’s the hospital coping with Covid, I asked. It seems we are blessed, he replied. There have been almost no cases so there are wards of empty beds and staff twiddling their thumbs.
All very odd. Meantime, looking back to 2020: I had had the worst cold of my life – it went on from early January to mid-March. I suppose it may well have been Covid but I’ll never know. It strikes me as strange that when the jabs appeared nobody was tested for having already been infected so allowing their jab to be used on someone else. I mean, whether the jabs did any good or not, why waste them on someone who was already immune?
Everything about the government response fell into one of two classes. (i) Futile, expensive nonsense. (ii) Mass murder.
..just checked. Apparently annual global deaths amount around 60 million.
So even if the 7million dead due to covid is true (most in EU, UK and USA seem to have been “with covid” deaths, not “killed by covid” deaths) – it seems a rather small percentage increase…
The other half of the Witless-Unbalanced double-act has joine the WHO as the supreme head of liberty curtailment or some such high paying gig which is jolly galling for the ageing ET look-alike.
dearieme:
“It strikes me as strange that when the jabs appeared nobody was tested for having already been infected so allowing their jab to be used on someone else. I mean, whether the jabs did any good or not, why waste them on someone who was already immune?”
The government had already committed the money to buying enough shots to put them in everyone’s arms. Why test? The only thing you could find out is that that not nearly that many were required…
@dearieme
It strikes me as strange that when the jabs appeared nobody was tested for having already been infected so allowing their jab to be used on someone else. I mean, whether the jabs did any good or not, why waste them on someone who was already immune?
As the blog’s resident Covid conspiracy theorist I can provide some context.
When the whole thing first blew up the Stanford professor Jay Bhattacharya (later of the Great Barrington Declaration) wondered at this lack of testing and with others undertook his own serology test of the local California population.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33615345/
He found that official estimates of infection were way, way below the infection/recovered rates implied by the serology testing.
He thought this was good news: in direct contrast with the message being pumped out by governments and media around the world, the virus was clearly not very serious, this being the ineluctable conclusion of his finding that tens of thousands of people had already had it and recovered without so much as a blip in the mortality stats.
Further, recovery from infection was likely to provide a more complete immunity than any derived from vaccination, especially vaccination with an untested ‘vaccine’ using a new platform which had essentially killed everything it touched to that date.
No need to lock anyone down, no need to spend $ hundreds of billions on ‘vaccines’, no need to destroy the economy of the western world.
How naive.
Not only did the US government not listen to him, nor seek to replicate his study, they had him thrown off social media (in contravention of his 1A rights) and tried to silence him.
All of the above is documented fact, not conspiracy theory.
The theorising comes in when we seek to answer your question ‘why waste [the jabs] on someone who was already immune?’
@M
The government had already committed the money to buying enough shots to put them in everyone’s arms. Why test? The only thing you could find out is that that not nearly that many were required…
I agree except insofar as none of them were required.
@BlokeInTejas
“..just checked. Apparently annual global deaths amount around 60 million. So even if the 7million dead due to covid is true”
From that you can conclude that Covid presented roughly the same risk as a month of normal life.
For this we gave up 6 months or more…
Seasonal flu goes round the world every year and a few people die of it. So on a narrow definition of “pandemic” Whitty is right.
But he’s still an idiot and a menace to society.
@Swannypol
From that you can conclude that Covid presented roughly the same risk as a month of normal life.
Covid presented virtually no risk to anyone who wasn’t nearly dead anyway. The average age of death was higher than the prevailing average age.
Mostly what killed people was a combination of neglect and then aggressive medical treatment: intubation (normally only undertaken in extremis and completely unindicated for most Covid patients, 85% of whom died), Remdesivir, morphine and midazolam, and secondary infections deliberately allowed to run rampant through the withholding of antibiotics (look at the UK prescribing stats for antibiotics and midazolam during the relevant period – one fell off a cliff, the other went stratospheric, and you won’t have to look hard to see which was which).
@Swannypol: if only lost time was the only thing we gave up, we also gave up vast amounts of money that we’ll never see back, thanks to Rishi Sunak.
@interested,
You never seem to miss an opportunity to make an ill informed rant, do you?
You know fuck all about my attitude to lockdowns in the last pandemic and I didn’t make any mention about about them in my post about the next one, so don’t put words in my mouth.
@BiND
1. It wasn’t a rant.
2. What about it was ill-informed?
3. Where did I put words in your mouth?
4. Fuck off, you soft old cunt.
Whitty’s appalling performance was a blow to my wife who had been taught in school by his mother, “Miss McRae”. Smashing woman! My wife had hoped that the son would be of the same calibre. Hopes dashed!
Holy fuck, if they’re stupid enough to do another scamdemic, I do believe it’ll make the recent racial justice protests by indigenous Brits look like a polite chat with coppers.
@interested,
1. You only rant and as you said yourself you’re a leading conspiracy theorist
2. See 1
3. It was specifically aimed at me
4. No
@Steve
Holy fuck, if they’re stupid enough to do another scamdemic, I do believe it’ll make the recent racial justice protests by indigenous Brits look like a polite chat with coppers.
I doubt it Steve. Plenty of morons still think it all saved their lives – the bloke who delivered our heating oil last week told me his father had died of Covid because he hadn’t had his sixth booster in time, for fuck’s sake – and of those who didn’t plenty were perfectly happy to take their ‘free money’ and sit on their fat arses watching the telly. Add in the vast number of quislings itching to inform on those who are ‘killing granny’ and it’s hard to be optimistic.
@BiND
You girlish little thing.
Yes, thank you.
Now, like a pub, take it outside lads, not in here.
I may have written about this before.
In May of 2020, I suffered a head injury at work, and was taken to a major hospital on the outskirts of Dearborn, Michigan, to be repaired. The hospital entrance was a sea of performative behaviours, with masks and screens and cleansers and distancing and all sorts. The hospital was supposed to be ‘prioritizing’ Covid patients over all others, and it took a committee decision to agree that a man with blood dripping from under a large bandage over a head wound might need some sort of hospital care.
The place was deserted. I have never been treated for anything so fast. CAT scan, neurological consult and surgical repair, I was raced from one to the next, all fully staffed, all sitting around with bugger-all to do.
I fell to talking with the resident who stitched-and-glued my scalp back together. And I said ‘you must be all tied up with the Covid patients’.
And she looked me in the eye – we were, literally, nose to nose as she stitched me up – and she said ‘It’s all bullshit. I haven’t seen a Covid patient in 3 weeks, and yet we turned out all our regular patients that weren’t actually dying.’
And then she remarked on another local hospital – in Westland – which had been completely emptied on the orders of our idiot Governess, and told to make ready for a flood of Covid patients that never came, and which had quietly reopened for normal service a few days prior, as the local community outrage over the complete withdrawal of local hospital services was too much to bear.
The opinion that I formed then – that it was a mostly-political reaction, in an election year, to a fairly-conventional (but non-trivial) outbreak of a fairly-conventional upper-respiratory disease – has not altered since.
llater,
llamas
Interested – the bloke who delivered our heating oil last week told me his father had died of Covid because he hadn’t had his sixth booster in time, for fuck’s sake – and of those who didn’t plenty were perfectly happy to take their ‘free money’ and sit on their fat arses watching the telly. Add in the vast number of quislings itching to inform on those who are ‘killing granny’ and it’s hard to be optimistic.
Those people don’t matter, the NPCs. Human wallpaper.
It’s the excitable minority that matters. And the second order effects our Clownmasters are too Lammy to consider.
An amusing story from the pandemic:
In the early weeks of the vaccine roll-out, a strapping man of 6ft 3 and 13 stone in his early 30’s was surprised to be prioritised for a jab over other more vulnerable citizens.
It turned out that his medical records had his height as 63cm…..
Covid can’t be that serious. If he’s to be believed, Spud has had it 37 times. And Long Covid for at least 18 months. And the fat slob is still with us.
I came down with Atrial Fibrillation in March 2020 and ended up seeing quite a bit of the inside of the Whittington Hospital in North London. Several things I noted:
1. You get seen quite quickly by A&E if you turn up with a resting heart rate of 160.
2. The staff were all masked up but quite blatantly disregarding the social distancing rules.
3. Everyone was touching everything all the time, as normal. The diverse hospital porters were pawing everything, for no reason.
4. Apart from A&E the hospital was pretty well deserted, which was confirmed when
5. One night in A&E, in the early hours, the friendly and attentive nurse helping me out confessed that she was actually allocated to a Covid ward but it was empty and there was nothing else happening, so she’d come down to A&E to help out.
That same night I’d been parked on a trolley, curtained off, in an A&E room that probably had 4 trolley bays in it. A chap turned up a weepin’ and a wailin’ – sounded like he was straight off the set of a blaxploitation film – that he felt he was about to die and he wanted his daughter. Eventually they left him to it and he went quiet. Then he lit up.
I was a bit annoyed by this so went and grassed him up to the nurses, who were oblivious. They gave him a bollocking and confiscated his fags. Half an hour later the smell of tab smoke still hung heavy in the air. In A&E. So much for ventilation.
That was also the night when I realised that I was parked out of sight and out of mind, with my monitor beeping like hell, and that I could have pegged there and then and no-one would have noticed. In A&E.
The first time I got the coof, I was surprised at how mild it was. Swine flu was much worse.
Subsequent strains are like a mild cold, nothing to worry about.
7 million people didn’t die of Covid, that’s an insane lie, like global warming or equality.
Btw I smoke like a chimney and my general approach to death is “bring it, fucker”.
@llamas
And she looked me in the eye – we were, literally, nose to nose as she stitched me up – and she said ‘It’s all bullshit. I haven’t seen a Covid patient in 3 weeks, and yet we turned out all our regular patients that weren’t actually dying.’
Early in the alleged pandemic, I had cause to go to a hospital near us (Cotswolds, UK) to check that I hadn’t broken my ankle after stepping into a rabbit hole while out shooting.
I went for an x-ray and found the hospital almost literally deserted – it was bizarre. The lighting was all off because no one was walking down the corridors… Lights would come on automatically and obviously they are designed to go off after a certain period.
I found the x-ray department, where a woman radiographer was sitting, examining her nails. To be honest, I almost felt concerned for her safety.
I expressed my surprise at the lack of activity and she said it was like that all the time.
A mate of mine who had then recently retired early as a consultant orthopaedic surgeon had meanwhile been pressed into service as a general extra pair of hands, on a voluntary basis, to help staff another local hospital’s Covid ward on the basis that they were going to be very busy, and found he had nothing to do.
The people who called him in must have been true believers, as was he, but they were obviously wrong.
Anyone who still believes in any of this bullshit needs their head examining, basically.
Meanwhile in Northern Ireland, Stormont wants to bring in a new Public Health Bill which will allow them to mandate vaccines, detain people for 28 days, close businesses, control your movement, enter your premises and take your stuff without a warrant etc.
The key thing though is that we must deride anyone who notices this stuff as a ‘ranting conspiracy theorist’ even as the ‘public consultation’ gets underway 🙂
https://dailysceptic.org/2024/09/26/mandatory-vaccination-and-confinement-included-in-draconian-health-bill-for-ni/
Interested – how do they think they’re going to enforce that?
There may be trouble ahead…
” Plenty of morons still think it all saved their lives – the bloke who delivered our heating oil last week told me his father had died of Covid because he hadn’t had his sixth booster in time, for fuck’s sake – and of those who didn’t plenty were perfectly happy to take their ‘free money’ and sit on their fat arses watching the telly. Add in the vast number of quislings itching to inform on those who are ‘killing granny’ and it’s hard to be optimistic.”
There’s been a bit of a kerfuffle about why Andrew Bridgen only got 1500 votes (c.3% of the vote) standing as an independent in the General Election. The conspiracy theory being that Dark Forces ™ rigged the vote in his former constituency to get rid of a troublesome priest. My point was that 90%+ of people had at least one jab (or if those stats are iffy, the chances are that 90% of those who go out and vote had at least one jab) and those people are either going to see Bridgen as a total David Icke style crank (if they are covid/vaccine true believers) or (if they aren’t) don’t want to be reminded of how they were taken for fools and were complicit in what they now suspect to have been a mass fraud by the State. Either way they aren’t voting for someone to turn that particular rock over. I’d suggest that the 3% vote he got represents the real Covid Sceptic population, the reason the likes of us think its far greater is the echo chamber effect. The vast vast mass of the UK public (a far greater proportion than any political party ever gets as a vote) was and still is in favour of the UK’s anti Covid measures and the vaccines, sad to say.
The vast vast mass of the UK public (a far greater proportion than any political party ever gets as a vote) was and still is in favour of the UK’s anti Covid measures and the vaccines, sad to say.
They don’t matter. None of this has anything to do with what British people want.
I fear Jim is right. The few people to whom I happen to have mentioned it recently have all turned out to be True Believers in masks, vaxx, the whole bloody package.
There’s also self-censorship. An elderly friend lost her middle-aged son. “Bloody covid” said she. I didn’t feel it was the moment to say “Bloody Covid vaxx, perhaps”.
Mr Briggs has a few things to say re: the plague:
https://www.wmbriggs.com/post/40989/
@Jim
One thing I noted throughout was people’s revealed preferences. Yes there was wide support for restrictions. But when you looked at what people actually did, the numbers that personally breached the restrictions they supported was vast. Including, of course, the politicians who’d enacted the restrictions being caught out ignoring them. So what people were really in favour of was restrictions on other people. Entirely logical. Who wouldn’t want to shift their the cost onto someone else? Take the on-line shopping boom. If the reasons for the restrictions were true, then every home delivery of stuff must have entailed risk. And not just at the receiver’s doorstep but right through the delivery chain. That these people were even working increased risk. And there really wasn’t any reason for the boom. Since people were confined to home, they should have been consuming far less. If you’re not going out you don’t need new clothes etc. But all those Peletons. People were quite content to improve their quality of life during lockdown at other people’s risk.
Noticed the same with supermarket. If contact with other people was a risk, you’d expect to see far fewer people but doing larger shops to minimise the number of shopping excursions. I would have said our supermarkets seemed busier than pre-Covid & if anything, individual purchases smaller. I was fairly obvious that people were using the excuse of going to the supermarket to get out the house. Be interested to know if the latter applied in the UK. Spain doesn’t so much go in for peripheral retail parks, the way the UK does. Most of our supermarkets are smaller but within walking distance. Housing density is much higher.
“One thing I noted throughout was people’s revealed preferences. Yes there was wide support for restrictions. But when you looked at what people actually did, the numbers that personally breached the restrictions they supported was vast. Including, of course, the politicians who’d enacted the restrictions being caught out ignoring them. So what people were really in favour of was restrictions on other people.”
All true. But people tend to vote with their stated preferences, not their revealed ones. Hence the people who consistently vote for higher taxes, but not on themselves, and when they do fall foul of extra taxes tend to try and avoid/evade them. So the fact people are hypocrites is not a new idea, nor really relevant, as we tend to get the society people say they want, rather than the one they actually work towards in private. So if [insert large % here] of the population say they are in favour of lockdowns and vaccines, guess what we’ll get more of?
“They don’t matter. None of this has anything to do with what British people want.”
That may be true, in that the impetus for all the lockdowns/vaccines etc came from supra-national bodies or people entirely out of the control of the UK voter. However the fact remains that the UK voter was massively in favour what happened when it was happening, and indeed was actively calling for more of it at the time. And while perhaps some have since come to their senses and would not support the same again, I suspect that the vast majority would. And thats the trouble – we are never going to be able to fight the Big Health/Big State blob when the next pandemic hits if they have 70-80% of the public behind them. And they probably will.