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Borrowing matters

Rachel Reeves’s plan to significantly increase borrowing in the Budget risks pushing up mortgage rates, Treasury analysis suggests.

An official modelling exercise indicates that the Chancellor’s plans to rewrite Britain’s fiscal rules could increase the cost of debt for consumers and businesses.

The Treasury research paper warns that a “fiscal loosening” of just one per cent of GDP could lead to a “peak increase in interest rates” of up to 1.25 percentage points.

The document goes on to warn that every increase in annual borrowing of £25 billion could increase interest rates by between 0.5 and 1.25 percentage points.

The actual numbers there, well, mebbe. But the general idea is obviously true. In order to attract mre money – as Spud would say, in order to gain more who wish to save with the government – the rates on offer will have to rise. For the standard supply and demand reasons. If there were more who wanted to lend more at current rates then they’d be doing so and so bidding up prices/down yields. Thus to gain more we need to change the price on offer to move along that demand curve.

Volume on offer and price are not independent of each others…..D’Oh.

What’s actually going to be interesting here is watching who tries to deny this.

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moqifen
moqifen
1 year ago

no doubt cue the potato explaining that despite the govt spending like a drunken matelot on shore leave it would all pay for itself through the additional tax raised via the multiplier and that any inflationary effects are completely transitory and nothing to worry about. Meanwhile ttk is busily getting measured up for a nice suit paid for by his fairy godfather.

Geoffers
Geoffers
1 year ago

It’s all part of the grand plan to reduce our buying power and our effective agency.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
1 year ago

Wouldn’t be easier to go down in to the cellar, shoot Scrooge Mcduck and spend the money the Tories stashed there so they could pretend there was no money and impose austerity?

Grist
Grist
1 year ago

A rule of thumb when trying to predict the budget is that if it doesn’t affect the politicians and it displays a bit of virtue signaling then it will be done. So this time taxes will go even higher, especially capital taxes and IHT, because MPs can fiddle the properties to their best advantage. Alcohol duty will be enormous because we buy all the booze even an MP can drink and it will be another tool in reforming the NHS by reforming us to not get ill. They don’t give a monkeys about inflation because we buy everything they want via “expenses”. And TTK in true socialist style has his unique pension.

The Meissen Bison
The Meissen Bison
1 year ago

Para 6 of the DT piece:

Treasury sources confirmed that the policy paper, which was published in December and is titled “The impact of borrowing on interest rates”, reflects the department’s current thinking.

If the Treasury is putting this about now (given that the paper dates from last December) it suggests that the officials there have decided that Reeves doesn’t know her doubtless callipygian fundament from her definitely pointy elbow.

Joe Smith
Joe Smith
1 year ago

@ Grist

A rule of thumb when trying to predict the budget is that politicians will fuck it up.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 year ago

Explanation for me, please. Borrowing is in government money. Where does the underlying value come from? Goods & services are the only things in the economy. They’re already spoken for in the present.

Mohave Greenie
Mohave Greenie
1 year ago

Governments love inflation. It allows them to spend more (at least in a nominal sense). It pushes people into higer tax brackets without the icky process of raising taxes. It doesn’t hurt that their salary is indexed to inflation.

The trick is to be able to do this without rousing the pedantry, which could cause them to lose their heads, metaphorically.

decnine
decnine
1 year ago

The Chancellor’s plan is pure evil. The people who will bear the burden haven’t just not voted for it, they haven’t even been born yet.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 year ago

@decnine
The people who will bear the burden haven’t just not voted for it, they haven’t even been born yet.
If they accept the obligation. That’s not a given. Why should one accept responsibility for debts run up by ones grandparents for ones grandparent’s benefit. Would you?

john77
john77
1 year ago

@ bis
Because countries that default on their debts find it more difficult and much more expensive next time they want to borrow money

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 year ago

@john
Isn’t most of government debt internal? But in any case, government being unable to borrow is something I would dearly like to achieve. And the country having a reputation for defaulting on it’s foreign debt would be an excellent way to achieve it. Likewise on its internal debt. People who have been stupid enough to lend to the government should be punished severely. Government, like all of us, should learn to live within its means.
Best of course would be to get rid of government money.

Boganboy
Boganboy
1 year ago

BiS

Back to real gold and real silver coinage then??

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 year ago

@Boganboy
Not necessarily. The wealth of the country is the value created in commerce. Money is only a token of value to facilitate that commerce. Since we’re increasingly moving towards digital tokens, digital tokens would seem to be the answer. Money should be valued by the quantity of goods & services it is exchangeable for. As of course, effectively, it is.
That’s why I asked the question, where does the value come from? Government borrowing means government spending. Spending buys goods & services. Since the quantity of goods & services at any one time is fixed, government borrowing must end up as an indiscriminate tax, the proceeds to be given to government’s favoured beneficiaries. The lender may benefit. But to everybody else’s expense.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 year ago

Spain, of course, is the result of using gold & silver as tokens of value in commerce. A poverty stricken land of aristocrats & peasants.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 year ago

It hasn’t really changed. The majority of people here think the way to wealth is rent seeking. You try & do business her.

Nautical Nick
Nautical Nick
1 year ago

Why not just tax mortgages by 1%? Politically impossible, I know, unless maybe you claimed it was a tax on the wicked banks…

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