Eh?

Where can I sign up for the fascist death squads?

Self-imposed exile, of course. Several celebs have promised.

And apparently over here Khan said he would emigrate, and Bono said he would drive off a cliff.

@TtC No doubt the Democratic Socialist State of Canuckia will take them.

heh… As for Spud’s “Americans who must now face significantly enhanced risk and the possibility of major disruption ” …
No doubt a firm “No, you won’t have it your way.” is a serious case of HurtyWords™ for the Skittle-squad, so they’ll have a case of the vapours and will have no trouble finding a media outlet to publish their Trauma and Anxiety.
Honestly, it’s almost like toddlers throwing a tantrum.

” if not forced emigration and political exile”

Dunno about political exile, but:

“Are you a US citizen?” Y/N
“Do you have a residence permit?” Y/N
“Do you have a work permit?” Y/N

Are all valid questions. Which the second option may finally get some beef behind.
That’s not “forced emigration” but simple eviction. By law.

If I meet such a “celeb” I’ll make sure to loudly ask as to when they are moving elsewhere. And remind them they aren’t welcome here 🙂

“Neo-Nazis celebrated when this man was elected as a county councillor for Spennymoor.”

Today Spennymoor. Tomorrow, ze World!

@Simon Neale: “Bono said he would drive off a cliff.”

We can but hope.

I am this morning, most of all, profoundly worried for the safety and well-being…

Spud’s virtue-signalling but faux compassion – “see how much I care!” – is nauseating!

“I am this morning, most of all, profoundly worried for the safety and well-being of literally millions of Americans who must now face significantly enhanced risk and the possibility of major disruption”

Well, yeah. Antifa will probably have burned Portland, Oregon to the ground by Friday.

I expect he means he’ll make his spare rooms and attic available for American lodgers. ££££.

But is he any more hysterical than the Guardian?

“How the Guardian will stand up to four more years of Donald Trump”

I, as many readers of this blog will be, am shocked by what has happened.

In the words of the Carpenters ‘it’s only just begun’ and the fact you are shocked suggests you have had your head in your ass for four years

I am this morning, most of all, profoundly worried for the safety and well-being of literally millions of Americans who must now face significantly enhanced risk and the possibility of major disruption, if not forced emigration and political exile, as a consequence of the Trump victory.

Karma is a bitch – I doubt it is even in the hundreds but I am sure if you colluded in the fake legal cases and the legal persecution you knew was patent bullshit, Yes, I’d be worried.

I really do not think that the world has prepared itself for the consequences of what might happen if Trump only keeps part of his promises. The practical consequences for the world of a USA that has turned its back on democracy might be hard to comprehend as yet but must be planned for immediately.

He was democratically elected – are you questioning that?

One consequence of immediate relevance to the UK that needs to be noted is that if Trump does impose the tariffs that he has suggested to be part of his economic plan, then there are likely to be economic consequences for the UK, including lower levels of trade and higher prices. This might be bad news for Labour, although in the context of the shock of fascism, that appears almost insignificant.

He isn’t a fascist – you are the one who associates with fascists and who wants the state to take over all private economic resources and supports Net Zero – the complete impoverishment of all citizens for the state’s benefit.

Beyond our shores, we can expect Netanyahu to be emboldened by this win. Trump has made clear his support for his genocide.

There is no genocide – the attempted genocide was stopped by the IDF who are continuing to kill Hizbollah and Hamas – people whose death has nothing to my mind but a positive impact on global wellbeing

Simultaneously, the likelihood that US support for Ukraine will decline is very high, making it very likely that Putin’s Russia will secure permanent territorial gains as a consequence of the war in that place because Europe is unlikely to find the means to prevent that.

Absolutely agree – this lunacy will end and we can concentrate on the Islamic threat, both within and without

The question to ask, then, is why is this happening? Why has the USA voted for a man so obviously too old to hold office, too deranged for office, too obscenely offensive for office, and who has proposed a programme so obviously intended to intimidate so many?

I only have one obvious answer. I reserve the right to change my mind on this and to revisit the issue, but my immediate feeling is that there is one point of common ground between those who have voted for Trump and those who read this blog, and that is that they have rejected neoliberalism.

but as ‘neoliberalism’ is defined by you as ‘opponents of mine’ then you are saying your own readers are in line with the enemy?

Biden’s economic boost after Covid was not felt by most Americans. The growth went to the already rich.

Inflation tends to benefit asset holders – which is unfortunate as you caused most of the inflation globally directly.

Most Americans do not want to preserve an economic system that very clearly does not reward them and has no intention of doing so.

That might be the most accurate statement in this entire screed

Many Americans already feel alienated within their own country.

Having the population of New York coming across the Rio Grande and directly being given benefits will do that..

The Biden support for Netanyahu’s tyranny in Gaza made many feel that the Democrats had already embraced fascism, so what would the difference be if they did so with Trump?

So your anti -semitism is now so overt you feel that Israel has to surrender to Hamas and Hizbollah and accept their inevitable death? I’m guessing you were at home at Dachau – very much.

And, I have no doubt many Americans have good reason to fear the consequences of neoliberalism that it pretends do not exist, but which are readily apparent, from massively divided societies to fears of climate change, to constant reminders of inequality, to the loss of hope and the denial of opportunity as a consequence of ever-growing divides in a society when neoliberal politicians long ago ceased to tell the truth.

It is an issue – there are people out there peddling fantasies that Governments can create money out of thin air with no inflationary consequences and that banks don’t act as financial intermediaries, or even the principles of bogus theories like MMT – and politicians listen to them.

In that situation, Trump might look mad and a terrible choice, except for the fact that neoliberalism and its perpetuation look to be even worse because there is a guarantee of failure to come in it, whereas Trump only offered the possibility of something that might be terrible.

Maybe you should have run as a third candidate – then they’d really have the prospect of total societal failure or a New North Korea

I am genuinely frightened about what Trump might do now.

Why – do you really think he is in Mar a Lago saying ‘You know, boys – we gotta do something about that Richard Murphy’?

Simultaneously, what we have to notice is that the game pursued by neoliberal politicians, dedicated to financialisation, the destruction of genuine public-focused service, the denial of climate change, and the perpetuation of power structures that deny opportunity to the majority whilst leaving far too many close to penury, is now over. Harris was its last gasp.

I would have said the embracing of DIE, unlimited immigration, militant LGBTQIA Alphabet Soup and Net Zero were the death knell – all of which you embraced enthusiastically.

With luck, Trump might not be able to find military and law enforcement officers willing to support the more extreme of his goals.

The military is accustomed to obeying its Commander in Chief – are you advocating a military coup now?

It might even be the case that the Supreme Court, packed as it is with his supporters, might not let him do all that he wishes and that some vestiges of democracy might survive him.

As Infowars posited this morning – what this result reveals is the scale of the fraud perpetrated in 2020. there’s 10 million fewer recorded votes – 1 million Democrat voters have disappeared and that’s despite
them bringing in 11 million illegals over the Rio Grande. I for one cannot wait for there to be a proper examination, without Antifa and BLM violence of the fraud cases that were summarily dismissed then.

In practice, the people of the USA might revolt against him trying to expel 11 million undocumented people in the country, with massive consequences for their own well-being as a result of the enormous economic disruption that this will create.

They might well do – although am guessing more than a few might step forward to assist with the expulsions – from every colour and creed. It’s called ‘illegal immigration’ for a reason.

There is a chance that abortion bans will create stress so great that backlash might happen.

What does it say about a ‘progressive’ mindset that restricting the right to destroy unborn children might be considered unpopular?

But what no ordinary American will call for will be a restoration of the neoliberal status quo.

Neoliberalism has failed the USA. Yesterday, the people of that country voted for Trump to send that message. They have taken the most almighty risk by doing so. We have no idea how this will pan out. But what we do know is that the neoliberal order is dead in the USA. It needs to be everywhere. What we need now is a non-fascist alternative to it.

Any government that embraced the policies you propose, as we are seeing in the UK (As the BiS says – this is Murphy’s world – we only live in it) is facing long term catastrophe. Trump offers a slim chance of avoiding it.

That is the best I can offer right now.

Whatever happened to ‘No Pasaran’ – Maybe you staying on Twitter will act as a rallying point for the disaffected?

Lets just take a moment to remember the person who made all this possible, Dr Jill Biden.

Without her burning desire to cling on to the trappings of power, Joe Biden would have sailed off into the sunset to spend time with his unaccounted for wealth, having decided not to stand again in 2024, while the Democrats would have ended up with a candidate far stronger than Kamala Harris. Without her steadfast determination to force her rapidly deteriorating husband into another 4 years of wandering around wondering what he was doing, mis-reading autocues and falling over, Donald Trump might now be crying into his cornflakes.

Dr Jill Biden, we salute you.

the fact you are shocked suggests you have had your head in your ass for four years

Bingo. Even leaving aside Biden’s record, the Democrats had a terrible candidate who couldn’t even win one of their own primaries, and lied to the public about the incumbent President’s health for four years. I wasn’t confident that Trump could swing it, but anyone who’s “shocked” is an absolute fool.

Like Britain’s answer to Liz Cheney, the Ted Heath from Wish.com, <a href="
Rory Stewart. Why anyone takes this dork seriously is beyond me.

I am loving the meltdown – Hopefully that arch – troll the ‘Real Man’ will appear and we can gloat but he seems to have disappeared. Maybe he’s looking for sheep by the Rio Grande or eating cats?

This is priceless from the Guardian:

I’m neither the calmest nor the most anxious person. But as Donald Trump’s presidential victory seems more certain by the minute, I feel sick to my stomach with worry. I hoped to go to sleep on election night knowing Harris had won, and that we were safe. But that is not what was in store for us.

The anxiety I’m feeling right now started months ago. During the lead-up to the 2024 presidential election, my hair began falling out and one of my eyelids started twitching. Classic signs of stress, said a doctor friend. On Halloween, talking with a colleague, I realized that we looked and sounded the way people look and sound outside the intensive care unit, as they wait to learn whether a friend or relative will survive.

I am sincerely hoping bullshit like DIE and Big Trans is in intensive care.

Regardless of who is funding our political campaigns, no one is going to run for office on a platform that proclaims: I promise the American people that I am going to fight to protect our precious oligarchy!

So let’s call it democracy. Because the alternative is so much worse.

We understand the alternative. We know what a dictatorship is. The millions killed by Hitler, the millions killed by Stalin. The Argentinean military dropping prisoners out of helicopters. The replacement of laws and rights with the whims of the dictator. The dehumanization of the other, the whipping up of the majority to see the minority as vermin, as vectors of “poisoned blood”. The normalization of violence as part of the political process. The mutual admiration of one dictator for another. The silencing of every voice except that of the dictator and his inner circle. The idea that the old couple next door, with their funny accents, raising their grandson, are criminals who must be arrested and dumped across the border. The delight in racist humor, that jolly dog-whistle of hatred.

The imprisonment and execution of those who disagree with the government is one of the most common threats we’d heard during the campaign. Any system, even ours, could murder its Alexei Navalny. In Pittsburgh I met a writer, Abdelrahman ElGendy, who spent six years in prison for taking part in a demonstration against Egypt’s military government. And what if the dictator decides against birth control or equal rights for women? What if misogyny is so open and prevalent that a woman’s laughter is described as a witch’s cackle?

The old couple next door that came across the RIo Grande in the last four years? And Harris is the cackling witch. She did not hold back in her criticism of Trump that’s for sure.

And what if the dictator loses his mind – along with the nuclear code? What if the dictator surrounds himself with power-hungry sociopaths, as so many dictators have? What if the dictator decides that the sick and old, the infirm and poor are a drain on the economy?

These are snowflake fears, I know, but buttressed by sturdy historical facts. The most eloquent account of the prelude to a dictatorship was written by Gabriel García Márquez, in an essay, Death of a President: The Last Days of Salvador Allende, published in Harper’s, in 1974.

I don’t think Trump is the reincarnation of General Pinochet. however, the leftist insistence that women are men and economic self-destruction is a viable future economic model are akin to the lunacy under Allende.

All you have to do is read about the rally at Madison Square Garden on 26 October 2024. A comedian told nasty jokes about Puerto Rico, the sex lives of Latinos, the cheapness of Jews, the sluttiness of powerful women. A prominent speaker said, “America is for Americans.” In 1939, 20,000 people attended the rally of the German American Bund, also in Madison Square Garden. One of those speakers said that if George Washington were alive, he would be friends with Adolf Hitler.

Regardless who wins the 2024 election, the campaign has been a snapshot – however blurry in places – of our country. And it’s not a pretty picture. The divisions are going deeper, or perhaps just more open. In our peaceful rural neighborhood, someone has posted a campaign sign at the entrance to the long narrow lane that leads to the peaceful town cemetery.

Indeed – constant demonisation of a race and deriding them as ‘institutionally racist’ or ‘deplorables’ might have an impact. Perhaps you should have thought of that, but of course you didn’t. You reap what you sow.

Dictators are not about bridging divides. They prefer divisions. They like people hating other people. They like people fearing that the country is in danger from maniacs who want to defund the police and offer welcome baskets to busloads of narcos and serial killers. We’ve been encouraged to picture migration as a scene from World War Z (2013), zombies scaling fortifications, swarming the cities of the living.

People have been saying that the would-be dictator was not really going to do what he threatened during the campaign. Economically, it was a nonstarter. Deport the undocumented agricultural workers, and a tangerine will cost $20! But I kept thinking of something that the journalist Masha Gessen wrote in the aftermath of the 2016 election: believe the dictator.

So the urge to defund the police which was the hallmark of BLM and Antifa was a myth. The fact Harris allowed 11 million people in without challenge is a myth??

It’s genuinely priceless stuff…..

Hopefully that arch – troll the ‘Real Man’ will appear and we can gloat but he seems to have disappeared.

Looks like our substandard troll just had his arse handed to him by reality.

Maybe “Real Man” is Rory Stewart.

Rory Stewart probably got bummed repeatedly when he was in Afghanistan. (Don’t worry he likes it)

I think we should all give Real Man & all his other sock puppets & compatriots a resounding round of applause for their diligent work towards getting the Trumpster elected. He couldn’t have done it without you. We can’t express our thanks fully enough. Well done!

@BiS ROFL!! I have the “security” earpiece.. Lemme be the one in various civvies just Passing Along/Loitering… 😉

Perhaps the Poms will kindly loan St. Helena to Trump as a future home for Kamala.

Lol

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Steve

The typo is I meant 11 million voters but those who said ‘there’s no evidence of fraud’ Must be looking pretty fucking stupid now. Rory Stewart/ ‘Real Man’ included.

Can anyone explain why the combination of a war criminal psychopath (Alastair Campbell) and a not very bright bumboy (Stewart/RM) as the UK’s ‘leading political podcast’ doesn’t indicate we’re up shit creek in the middle of a paddle drought?

VP – I wasn’t disagreeing, those numbers are extremely weird. I’m not quite sure what to make of them.

Covid/George Floyd Mania 2020 was a very unusual year, so it’s hard to separate the cheating from the noise of several unique factors in the way votes were cast and collected and the true (?) black swan event of the pandemic and associated political and economic tomfoolery – all of which drove up participation in an environment where dissatisfaction with the incumbent was to be expected.

We know for a fact there were a lot of irregularities on election night and subsequently, most of it was televised live:

* Republicans poll watchers being forced out of counting places, windows being covered with cardboard (!) to prevent people watching them count paper ballots.

* The (to my knowledge, unprecedented, but then again, see the number of Biden votes or “votes”?) simultaneous pause in counting in certain key battleground states

* Vans groaning with the weight of uncounted votes appearing at 4am

* The infamous subsequent graphs in key battleground states showing Trump’s vote on a parabolic trajectory, but Biden’s vote magically teleporting above him in a straight line before levelling off

* The obvious tell of the extreme lengths Democratic state and local officials took in preventing, delaying or obfuscating a simple audit of the votes. (Am I an insa– nevermind, am I an evil right winger for thinking that being able to audit the results of democratic elections should be a simple, routine thing any citizen eligible for the franchise should be able to obtain? I mean, “we want to check the votes were legit” “NO!” isn’t something that should be happening in a first world country, right?)

* The mysterious difficulties of the former president in finding legal representation (lawyers were threatened with disbarment or – worse – the IRS). Al Capone could hire any attorney he wanted. Michael Jackson, Bill Clinton, John Wayne Gacy and OJ Simpson could all find attorneys. But represent Trump and you’re barred.

* The irregular behaviour of the courts, repeatedly denying every single normal civil remedy of judicial oversight (why?), often on weak or spurious or blatantly fuck-you grounds of locus standi, culminating in the Supreme Court shamefully declaring it wasn’t interested in mediating legal disagreements between the states (!), now please go away and don’t kill us.

If Trump lost fair and square, why go to all that trouble? Why did federal agents incite a riot in their own nation’s capital on January 6th, and why did they open the doors to Congress and herd protesters inside? Why is he being prosecuted by more state and federal agencies than Al Capone? (Not anymore I suspect tho) Why were all of Trump’s grown children, and his friends and most of his business associates, raided by armed FBI agents?

If they’d just left him alone, he would never have won the Republican nomination again and might not have run. He had to run, to stay out of jail. It was the transparent legal fuckery that brought out the fuck you vote. And now, he’s baaaaaack!

I did read somewhere that this time around, the Republicans were lawyered up before Trump was even nominated, apparently they won a bunch of court cases to try to make the process and count at least somewhat fairer. Conservatives doing something clever, it’ll never catch on.

Can anyone explain why the combination of a war criminal psychopath (Alastair Campbell) and a not very bright bumboy (Stewart/RM) as the UK’s ‘leading political podcast’ doesn’t indicate we’re up shit creek in the middle of a paddle drought?

I believe God put Trump on this planet to give us cheerful hearts and to defy our enemies. The entire world was against him, and he won. This is the most satisfying comeback since Rocky IV. I know Real Man wishes he had Paulie’s sex robot.

Rowdy – Biden has plot armour because he’s played by Lloyd Bridges in Hot Shots! Part Deux. Anybody trying to assassinate him would die in a hilarious and ironic pratfall. By deposing him in favour of Kamala without even pretending to consult Democratic voters, they were hoist on their own retard.

Anyway, America truly is the land of opportunity. Only a couple of weeks ago their new president was working at McDonald’s.