A New York author and journalist has released audio tapes that appear to detail how Donald Trump had a close social relationship with the late sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein that he has long denied.
The tapes, released as part of the Fire and Fury podcast series by Michael Wolff, author of three books about Trump’s first term and 2020 bid for a second, and James Truman, former NME journalist and Condé Nast editorial director, include Epstein’s thoughts about the inner workings of the former US president’s inner circle.
OK. New York, financial business, sure they would know of each other. Same circles, right?
But Epstein talking about Trump really isn’t all that much proof of very much now, is it? Still, everyone’s looking for that October surprise, right?
They have nothing. What was the last one? Some guy sacked before the 2020 election who only now remembers that Trump was a big fan of Hitler. Laughable.
Trump/Epstein won’t fly. There was an interview years ago where Trump made a rather arch comment about Epstein being a big fan of the ladies and preferring them on the younger side…. This was clearly an indication that Trump knew he was a wrong ‘un. Of course now the claim is that those comments meant Trump approved of Epstein.
The mere fact that Epstein’s name is being used shows how utterly desperate they are. It is a very high risk strategy, because there’s a lot of Democrat funders, RINO never-Trumpers and Rapey Bill Clinton himself who would look very bad if the full truth of Epstein’s activities ever came out.
The latest one is that Trump accused Liz Cheney of being a ‘warhawk’ and that as she revels in sendin US troops to fight, perhaps she’d like to face the guns herself.
CNN amongst others have claimed that Trump said Cheney should be put in front of a firing squad.
Is BBC Verify looking into this ?
Marius is correct. How about releasing the names of everyone on the Epstein flight manifests to Lolita Island?. That would be a proper October surprise.
No. I didn’t think so.
Consider Michael Wolff:
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5a563b4ff1ad0133bd37b7e0/4:3/w_3386,h_2540,c_limit/Glasser-Michael-Wolff-on-How-Washington-Will-Defeat-Trump.jpg
Am I correct in thinking, given the references to an october surprises in november, that an October Surprise had been promised but failed to turn up? If that’s the case a warmed-up Epstein appearance is as disappointing as one of those child’s batteries-not-included Christmas presents that’s effectively DoA on 25th December.
TMB – they also found another whore willing to claim Trump shagged her 30 years ago or something.
Anyway, I think African Man is right:
“I think part of why Kamala is getting so much is support is that if Trump wins, that Epstein client list is going to become public,” Musk said. “And some of those billionaires behind Kamala are terrified of that outcome.”
“Yeah. Do you think Reid Hoffman is uncomfortable?” Carlson asked, to which Musk immediately replied, “Yes. And [Bill] Gates.”
Bill Gates is a very, very, very naughty boy. Why do you think he gives so much money to the media?
I can’t read any comment about Gates without remembering his verdict on the internet. When asked why Microsoft had not released its own version of Netscape he said “We at Microsoft don’t see much future in knowing what they’re serving for lunch in the canteen at Harvard this Thursday”. He always was a towering intellectual, wasn’t he? He did have a couple of good ideas, buy DOS from a pauper for a couple of dollars and rent it out to every PC maker for the next 10 years, then steal the idea of Windows from Xerox and rent various shitty versions of that out to PC makers for the next 40 years, buying out the makers of spreadsheets, word processors and databases along the way. So, a very rich man indeed but morals? How much money in that? To nick a phrase from the film, “Morals? Morals are for wimps”…
Grist – Gary Kildall could’ve gotten CP/M to be the standard desktop operating system, but he decided to let his wife handle the IBM meeting while he flew out to see an SME customer.
I think the lesson is, always be available for business conversations.
@Steve… I think that Kildall’s error was worse than that – he told his secretary to tell the IBM people that as they hadn’t made an appointment he couldn’t see them as he was going flying… So the IBM chaps wandered down the road to a little outfit called “Microsoft” and the rest is (chequered) history.
Peter Thiels comments on Joe Rogan about Epstein and Gates were interesting. Basically he reckoned the relationship was based on the fact that Gates didn’t sign a pre-nup and Epstein helped him screw over his wife by moving assets to the Gates foundation and out of reach of the divorce settlement
“In the broadest strokes, Wolff’s intention is to paint a picture of two wealthy men of the 1980s whose shared interests lie in money, women and status. He describes how they socialized together in New York.”
That…. roughly describes the entirety of Wall Street and surrounds. With the rest of central New York City more or less the same, trying to get to that level…
And that’s just New York City…
Mighty broad brush there….
Marius:
You may have seen this hilarious bit of doom porn over the prospect of a Trump/Vance win:
https://x.com/njhochman/status/1852172049386529178
Ted – stop, my penis can only get so erect.
BJ – poor guy was haunted by that mistake
Thanks Ted.
It seems to be even more ridiculous than the rubbish we get in Oz.
@Ted… That ad is shite of the first order – but it’s beautifully produced shite! 🙂
I’ve heard that one of the sticking points between IBM and Gary Kildalls’ (Intergalactic) Digital Research was that they wanted their lawyers to vet IBM’s (standard) NDA. The money IBM were offering was also a problem, whereas BillG signed the NDA without reading it, and offered a cheap-as-chips $50k for DOS. The trick was that IBM didn’t get the exclusive rights and Bill made billions from licensing MS-DOS to third parties.