The prosecution of the worst Jan 6 rioters is to be prioritised before Donald Trump takes office, according to reports.
The worst alleged offenders, including those who are accused of assaulting law enforcement officers, will be brought before the courts in the remaining 72 days before Mr Trump is inaugurated, NBC news reported.
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Following Mr Trump’s election victory on Tuesday evening, prosecutors are said to have been advised that there is a societal interest in quickly dealing with the cases, according to NBC.
3.5 years on remand, eh? Then a quick quick trial as an election changes things?
Erm, how much evidence do we need to conclude that these are political prosecutions?
The sixth amendment to the U.S. constitution is supposed to guarantee the right to a speedy trial. It seems to have been forgotten in recent years.
‘political persecutions’ Tim??
Must admit if I was Trump they’d be the first ones I’d pardon.
And what about that poor woman who was shot by a panicking security guard ?
Any justice for her ?
I learnt from Louis Theroux that in the US system, delay is a common tactic of the defence for cases with potentially hefty sentences that rely on eyewitness testimony.
I wouldn’t. Not because they aren’t political prosecutions (they are), but I’d want to use the egregiousness of their unlawful detention to support a detailed investigation into the “stolen election of 2020”.
Looking at the results from 2024, it’s pretty clear that around 13.5 million votes for Joe Biden were manufactured, since that vote count is something like two or three standard deviations off where it should be (looking at it from a purely statistical viewpoint).
This is not to keep belabouring the point about 2020, but to put in place robust processes to reduce electoral theft going forward. Only when the full details of the electoral theft in 2020 are known and acknowledged, would a wholesale Presidential pardon by justified.
Claims that upwards of 150 federal actors disguised as rioters instigated the J6 fake “insurrection” also need to be investigated and those involved prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
The Southport rioters on remand are going to come up to trial at some point. Some of them will maintain their plea of Not Guilty but a jury will convict. For these violent perps surely their sentences have to be harsher than those who pleaded guilty straightaway and are already in jail, or dead in one case.
Worrying times.
If the juries find all of them not guilty, the ones already in jail are going to feel well aggrieved. I can’t see a good outcome.
Re: J6 and the Trump show trials, it’s very clear that in a lot of Dem cities (DC especially, also NYC) any pretense of justice is gone. Soviet-era levels of fake justice and cruelty. Many of the J6 participants have been grossly, excessively cruelly treated (extended solitary confinement, for example). Others have been led to plea bargain and find out at sentencing that the deal they’re getting isn’t what they were led to believe.
Part of this might be TDS, his personality definitely drives them a few notches higher, but their inherent desire to hurt people is unleashed.
Bongo – that’s an interesting point. The difference in climate between the first lot of sentencing and the next lot is that there is now information about the perp that was witheld although known to official sources from TTK down.
Juries can be stubbornly unbiddable so one shouldn’t count on them agreeing to convict if they feel they’re being sold a pup.
93% of the voters in the District of Columbia voted for Harris believe it was similar for Biden
“Looking at the results from 2024, it’s pretty clear that around 13.5 million votes for Joe Biden were manufactured”
Is this actually true? I’ve read elsewhere that people comparing the number of vote KH just got with what JB got in 2020 are comparing apples and oranges – namely the 2020 figures are final ones after every vote has been counted, while todays vote tallies are not final, they are still counting votes in many states. Its just that the result is already known due to the margin between the candidates, and known voting patterns. For example if you go on the BBC website and look at the results page, California is declared for Harris, despite only 75% of the votes having been counted. Presumably because the amount she is ahead, plus the known voting proclivities of the remaining areas to be counted mean she can’t lose. But there’s still maybe millions of votes to be added to both the DT and KH totals. So until every vote has been counted we can’t say what the totals will be compared to previous elections.
Thats not to say there won’t be a big drop in Dem votes 2020 to 2024, but what that figure will be is not known yet.
13.5 million votes is not exactly something you lose down the back of the sofa.
@ John Galt
A lot of commentators have said that Biden’s performance on the economy and on preventing (mostly failing to prevent) illegal immigration has cost the Democrats millions of votes. It is quite easy to believe that the Democrat party machines in Chicago and New York faked thousands, even tens of thousands, of votes but it is very difficult to believe that it was the case in dozens of states and 13.5 million votes – that is approaching Putin’s standards
@John77 – They weren’t there for Obama who was evidently far more popular than Sleepy Joe and 13.5 million people didn’t suddenly emerge from the census, so where did they come from and where did they go?
If they weren’t “ghosts in the machine” then what other mechanism could suddenly create them and destroy them other than wholesale ballot rigging that was alleged at the time, but whose existence was largely dismissed by the judicial system that had no desire to “find the election for Trump”.
Some truth in both of this.
The reality is that it doesn’t need much in an election to swing it. Focus on the swing states first off, the rest isn’t even needed. The film Mules showed it very clearly happened. That, ie just that specific element that the film reported on, reasonably extrapolated, was enough to swing the last election.
Re 13m, one needs to look at % rather than absolute numbers (the US is a growing population…), Trump’s / Reps own votes were variable in that context, and then the various macro elements of each event (not least Hillary and Kamla being two truly awful candidates).
Hence, one can comfortably assert and demonstrate significant fraud in 2020 without needing to invoke all (or even the major part of) of 13m.