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Lordy Be this is a shit article about Jay Z

Now it is true that I’ve never quite liked the cut of his job – as well as never having, knowingly, heard any of his music. But still:

Jay-Z’s condescending response to the accusation that he and Diddy raped a 13-year-old girl is troubling and telling

Rich bloke gets accused and says, so, charge me!

That’s why it was even more appalling to watch the typically measured, always calculated rap mogul release a statement that was condescending, un-self-aware and smacked of the smug overconfidence of someone who has operated with god-like status for so long that they don’t know what the rules even are, let alone that they have to follow them.

For starters, Jay-Z “implored” the plaintiff to file a criminal suit, “not a civil one!!” – a nonsense request when we know just how hard it is to secure a criminal conviction in a case like this, and just how useful the civil courts have been in awarding judgments in favor of victims of old crimes.

Insisting on put up or shut up is condescention now. Apparently, instead, anyone should just roll over for any accusation.

Of course, I’ve no idea at all about what actually did, or did not, happen. But this article is shit all the same.

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Van_Patten
Van_Patten
11 months ago

Tim

You clicked on the bio link? Ye Gods! To quote from Steve and I’s favourite show, ‘the Sopranos’, as the great Silvio Dante says: ‘Where do you get these morons from?’

The author, Tayo Bero is responsible for such genuine classics as:

‘Why can’t White American leave black children’s hair alone?’
‘Affirmative action is over in the US but only for black people’

Basically almost sub Murphy in its predictability. Given the author has almost certainly been the beneficiary of selective hiring from the time she got into university, probably at the expense of The White men she hates so viscerally, and been boosted well above her ability then it’s scarcely surprising but my word this article is garbage…

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
11 months ago

“Schrödinger’s feminism: a woman is simultaneously a victim and empowered, until something happens. Then she chooses which state benefits her the most.”

JuliaM
11 months ago

I don’t believe anyone should ever be forced to pay compensation for a crime that they haven’t been convicted of in a court of law.

Boganboy
Boganboy
11 months ago

In other words ‘he said, she said.’

The lady seems a trifle put out that the blokes are black. And thus have an unfair advantage. Since if they were white it would be grossly immoral not to find them guilty.

KJP
KJP
11 months ago

Basically, at least in UK law: criminal trial guilty beyond reasonable doubt – civil case guilty, for that is what a finding against the defendant is, on the balance of probability.

It is a tremendous lowering of the bar.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
11 months ago

I don’t believe anyone should ever be forced to pay compensation for a crime that they haven’t been convicted of in a court of law.

100%. Civil courts and the balance of probability are not the place to sort out serious accusations like rape, they are for neighbour fence disputes, contract disputes etc.

Mr Womby
Mr Womby
11 months ago

This reminds me of the time the Daily Mail accused six young men of the murder of Stephen Lawrence. The paper went on to say “If you claim to be innocent, then sue us”, knowing very well that there was no way the accused would be able to afford to. (To be clear, I’m in no way a fan of the people involved.)

Steve
Steve
11 months ago

alleged that he and Diddy took turns raping an unnamed 13-year-old girl during a VMAs afterparty that Diddy hosted in 2000.

“Hello, courts? Yes, two of the most famous men in the world raped me 24 years ago. No, I don’t want to make a criminal complaint… can I just have the money instead?”

Jonathan
Jonathan
11 months ago

@ JuliaM:

I don’t believe anyone should ever be forced to pay compensation for a crime that they haven’t been convicted of in a court of law.

Well, it worked against Trump so why not these two men?

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935

BniC
BniC
11 months ago

Also worked against OJ Simpson who lost the civil case

Sebalto
Sebalto
11 months ago

@Jonathan

A fact check in Trumps favour? I need to lie down….

Grikath
Grikath
11 months ago

Meanwhile…. Lil’ Miss Goldigga has had to admit publicly her story… “might have some misrecollections” in it. And some inaccuracies, minor things, like her dad stating he never picked her up from any MTV party, pre or after.
Other people she insists she spoke there having no recollection of her. ( Mightbe… who remembers every single hussy throwing herself at you when you’re Rich and Famous ( ish..) …. Other than firing your bodyguards and checking the Bouncer’s dicks for lipstick…)

But she was Raaaped, honest guv’……

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
11 months ago

I have a problem with of these stories.
For a start, from experience, with the clothes & the slap you really can’t tell the age of young women. I’m quite willing to believe a 13 y/o could be taken for 20 or more. The young ones dress & slap to look older. The older ones dress & slap to look younger. How could you know without checking her docs?
As for the supposed rapist having taste for young girls, yeah right. Him & how many? It’s something I learnt from having to deal with puta clients. The amount of Brit blokes come over here wanting to meet girls who resemble the school friends of their daughters or granddaughters. I would say far more than 50% of the ones I dealt with. I regard them as sick, perverts. Why would a sixty year old man want to be fucking a teenager? But they do. Are they scared of actual women?

Van_ Patten
Van_ Patten
11 months ago

BiS

Totally agree. A few people I have worked with had A predilection for trips to various places where the girls were borderline legal in the U.K – while one’s private life is one’s own business, any conversation where I was expected to empathise was a short one…

Steve
Steve
11 months ago

Lol:

NEW YORK (AP) — ABC News has agreed to pay $15 million toward Donald Trump’s presidential library to settle a defamation lawsuit over anchor George Stephanopoulos’ inaccurate on-air assertion that the president-elect had been found civilly liable for raping writer E. Jean Carroll.

As part of the settlement made public Saturday, ABC News posted an editor’s note to its website expressing regret over Stephanopoulos’ statements during a March 10 segment on his “This Week” program. The network will also pay $1 million in legal fees to the law firm of Trump’s attorney, Alejandro Brito.

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