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An unkind thought

Net zero targets are killing off the Church of England, clergy and wardens have warned.

Access to new oil or gas boilers has been restricted under a Church of England commitment to reach net zero carbon emissions by 2030.

A Telegraph investigation can reveal that the policy has left dozens of churches in the cold for months on end, with rural churches bearing the brunt of the policy.

Priests and wardens have warned that the green energy drive is putting parishioners’ health at risk, driving down church attendance and causing damp to rot historic buildings.

Does this apply to mosques?

The correct answer there is no, of course not, don’t be silly. Mosques do not have the one overarching “church” with committees etc. Therefore there’s no one decision point that the climate Trots can take over to enforce such a rule. Each decision is left to each congregation. Who, faced with being cold, the building falling apart, go with a bit of climate change is better than dying as we worship.

If the structure doesn’t exist the structure cannot be taken over by fanatic entryists….

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Addolff
Addolff
1 year ago

“If the structure doesn’t exist the structure cannot be taken over by fanatic entryists…”.

Unfortunately for the rest of humanity, the vast majority of moslems are fanatics, because their texts command them to be.

Peter MacFarlane
Peter MacFarlane
1 year ago

“If the structure doesn’t exist the structure cannot be taken over by fanatic entryists…”

Cowperthwaite’s Law strikes again.

Tim the Coder
Tim the Coder
1 year ago

The CE wants all this climate crap, so give it to them, good and hard.
Schadenboner.

Grikath
Grikath
1 year ago

Hold on…. Where’s that violin? Anybody got a decent magnifying glass?

Grikath
Grikath
1 year ago

The other thought is: Churches were never heated in the Good Old Days…

Good to see the CoE is giving worshippers the authenticity that comes with their flavour of SkyFairyism.

Ottokring
Ottokring
1 year ago

Grikath

The cold is just God’s way of telling us to burn more Catholics.

RichardT
RichardT
1 year ago

Grikath said:
“The other thought is: Churches were never heated in the Good Old Days…”

Aye, but back before the Reformation the churches had lots of people in them.

John
John
1 year ago

Better restrict all those multi-faith multi(pretend) gender demonstrations of power to the summer months then.

The decreasing number of actual Christian’s will have to be pissed off by freezing them to the pews.

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
1 year ago

“If the structure doesn’t exist the structure cannot be taken over by fanatic entryists….”

I don’t think this is “unkind”.

Political activists are always targeting big businesses because there’s plenty to take over. And big businesses are nervous about their status and image.

The thing with the FLN in the Algerian War of Independence is that no-one really knew who was in charge of the whole thing. It did have a structure, but it was small cells that operated quite autonomously, and those knew a guy in the next level up, who knew guys in the next level up. But the guys at the bottom knew no-one but one guy. Getting to a place where you could smash the whole thing up was almost impossible. So the French never successfully infiltrated it.

M
M
1 year ago

One of the (many) reasons Christianity dies out in countries where Muslims control things is that Christians are not allowed to build new churches, and in many cases are not allowed to repair the existing ones.

Oh, and you can’t have any worship in public either.

So the church falls apart and you end up not being able to hold mass, or even pray, anywhere.

Marius
Marius
1 year ago

The thing killing off the Church of England is the leadership of the Church of England. Net zero is merely one of its tools.

Steve
Steve
1 year ago

I’ve been in one of the Church of England’s dying, freezing dark churches (in a beautiful historic building now permanently closed) and the worst part isn’t the empty pews and tiny number of very elderly congregants, with no children.

The worst part is hearing a priest give sermons about Climate Changeology instead of Christianity, and seeing the pain and confusion on his face as he talks to an empty church again.

The local RC church is full of younger people with children, has heating that works, and no sermons on the holy purpose of heat pumps.

There’s also an Orthodox place nearby that has a healthy congregation, and several evangelical Protestant churches that are always busy, and a successful Mormon mission. By their fruits?

dearieme
dearieme
1 year ago

The Presbyterians were right: no Bishops!

Chris Miller
Chris Miller
1 year ago

Mosques do not have the one overarching “church” with committees etc.

Shi’a ones do – but they’re a small minority in the UK (and globally, overall).

Charles
Charles
1 year ago

If God had wanted worshippers to be warmer, he’d have made the climate warmer.

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
1 year ago

Steve,

The CofE are the nationalised religion, so it’s effectively run by the government. They decide who gets to be Archbishop of Canterbury so of course it’s going to be people like Welby and Williams, and it all trickles down from there. Of course it’s going to be some leftist establishment type.

Roman Catholics, Evangelicals etc are like the free market. The good ones get the crowds, the bad ones go out of business.

jgh
jgh
1 year ago

So the church falls apart and you end up not being able to hold mass, or even pray, anywhere.

Doesn’t affect my lot. Anywhere we can sit down is fine. Community centre, picnic area, somebody’s conservatory. Plus: Nae priests, nae bishops, nae hierarchy!

Some bloke on't t'internet
Some bloke on't t'internet
1 year ago

I see both the article writer and many of the commenters here understand how the CoE works. I nearly wrote that some of the rules passed down are … ridiculous, but actually, it’s “many”.
As to the article, it is true. Those fine upstanding people managing the central CoE with it’s piles of cash are quite happy to impose this sort of rule – but then the actual parishes (not many people realise just how unconnected they are financially) are struggling along with their reserves dwindling, only to have rules like this impose unaffordable costs onto them.

Andrew M
Andrew M
1 year ago

So why hasn’t the Catholic Church been infiltrated at the upper levels in the same way? It’s the ne plus ultra of centralised religion.

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