But a review of the data by the Guardian found that women were significantly under-represented. Both sexes were included in most trials (90%), but male-only trials (6.1%) were nearly twice as common as female-only studies (3.7%). Pregnant and breastfeeding women were especially under-represented – involved in just 1.1% and 0.6% of trials respectively.
Two in fact. One is that testing on the foetus – or suckling babbie – is somewhat frowned upon. The other is that there are fairly wild hormone and other physical swings here making a baseline somewhat difficult.
But patriarchy, right?
Men are happier taking risks than women.
Be that as it may, I don’t remember the Graun kicking off when pregnant women were pumped full of Covid ‘vaccine’ on the basis of zero trials (I tell a lie, they tested it on half a dozen pregnant mice which were sacrificed before any meaningful data was derived).
I also haven’t read anything about the no doubt coincidental subsequent fall in fertility – but then it’s staffed by depopulation fanatics.
The above stats don’t even mean there are more men than women in trials. It just means of the single sex ones, there’s slightly more male than female ones. But there could be one big trial of 100k women and 3 small trials of a few thousand men. Or the 90% that are mixed could in fact have more women in them than men. Without the size and male/female mix of each individual trial being analysed and tabulated it means nothing.
90 percent were mixed sex – but they’re whinging about the remaining 10?
What about black women?
Agammamon:
Of course they’re whinging about the remainder. It’s on the same basis of whinging about the under-representation of blacks among American football quarterbacks.
While ignoring the over-representation of blacks on the rest of the team.
Hang on: is the Guardian using the restored definitions of male and female? Shock horror!
Trials for conditions such as chronic pain, respiratory conditions and mental health disorders were among the least common, despite their significant impact on public health.
I was talking to a schizophrenic guy the other day, he seemed suspiciously perky so I asked him what was going on.
Off his meds again. He confirmed that by angrily telling me to fuck off. At least I don’t have to live with him, but I feel bad for his family.
Can they invent crazy pills that taste like pizza or something? The problem with crazy people isn’t that we don’t have effective medication to treat them, it’s that they inevitably stop taking them and go on mental health adventures like Bilbo Baggins with PTSD.
They’ll only accept you on a trial if you are not obese or unhealthy. So that’s about two thirds of women round here deselected.
Anyway, we don’t need no pesky trials. The MHRA has declared itself an enabler not a watchdog.
Steve, every school shooter in the US was on some form of psychotropic drug / anti depressant, the published side effects of which may include, quote “suicidal ideology or homicidal actions”.
Crazy people do crazy stuff whether they’re taking their meds or not…..
” The problem with crazy people isn’t that we don’t have effective medication to treat them, it’s that they inevitably stop taking them and go on mental health adventures like Bilbo Baggins with PTSD.”
Then they need to be put on a Community Treatment Order, which basically says ‘Take the tablets Buster, or its back in the nuthouse for you’.
https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/legal-rights/community-treatment-orders-ctos/overview/
I thought they’d abolished the nuthouses??
Cause all these problems can be fixed by drugs???
@Dearieme, Only when it suits them and the current Narrative….
It’s the
Nova PravdaGuardian..Addolf – Crazy people do crazy stuff whether they’re taking their meds or not…..
God, no. People who need antipsychotics and antidepressants are much better on the pills. They just feel better off them, at first. No, I don’t think it’s true that pills cause school shootings in America. If they did, where’s the list of shooters and what pills they were talking?
Jim – Funnily enough, I’ve never come across anyone on a “Community Treatment Order”. A piece of paper isn’t going to stop the mental, if it could, Care in the Community wouldn’t be such a disaster.
Bboy – they made the nuthouses out to be evil, sinister places where Hammer horror movie plots took place. And everyone knows about One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest. What an amazing inversion of reality that was, for people who are troubled by mental illness a holiday where you get good drugs and basket weaving classes with your friends can be a lifesaver.
Bi-monthly Zoom calls with a psychiatrist, not so much. But it’s cheap, and that’s all that matters.
“Funnily enough, I’ve never come across anyone on a “Community Treatment Order”. A piece of paper isn’t going to stop the mental, if it could, Care in the Community wouldn’t be such a disaster.”
I beg to differ. Because I know someone on one. He lives perfectly normally, as long as he is at home every second Tuesday when his CPN comes to give him his jab of happy juice. If he’s not there, and/or refuses to have the jabs, then he will get sectioned and they’ll medicate him under a section inside.
Its made his life infinitely better. Because he knows he can’t just refuse to take his meds, there will be consequences, he goes along with it quite happily. And has lived a far more settled life over the last 10 years or so he’s been on a CTO than he ever did before. The only time there was a problem was when some stupid do gooder social worker convinced the Mental Health to take him off it. He immediately stopped taking the meds and was as high as a kite inside a few months and ended up being sectioned and stuck in a mental hospital. Like he had been multiple times for the 20 years prior to his CTO – that was a never ending cycle of stop taking meds, slowly get higher and higher until something bad occurs , get sectioned, be medicated, settle down, go out in the world again, stop taking meds…..rinse and repeat. An awful cycle for both the patient and the family/friends of the patient. The CTO has improved his and everyone around him’s lives no end.
“I thought they’d abolished the nuthouses??”
Mental hospitals still exist for people on a section, who need to be looked after (and medicated) in a secure environment for their own (and everyone else’s) good. Most large conurbations will have one somewhere. They vary in degrees of security. Some are just like a securely locked hotel, others are more like a prison. I’ve visited my friend I mentioned above in various mental hospitals all over the south of England. The scariest thing about some of them is that the staff down’t always wear uniforms. So the cheery chap you’re having a nice chinwag with might be a psychiatric nurse, or some patient who has a hobby of torturing cats. You’re never quite sure. The more prison like ones aren’t like that tho. I visited one down Bristol way where we had to have a 6’6″ security guard in the room with us at all times in case my friend kicked off. Its a bit odd singing Happy Birthday to someone, and handing out presents and cutting a cake, while a guard watches over you from the corner of the room.
What don’t exist are the sort of places where people with mental issues were ‘committed’ to, and then never came out, until in a box. Mental hospitals now are more your ‘Jab them full of something to calm them down and hopefully stop them thinking they are Jesus, then shift them out into ‘the Community’ as fast as possible’ sort of thing.
“where’s the list of shooters and what pills they were taking?”
If I remember rightly the first “school shooting” took place on a campus of the University of Texas where a loony took a rifle up into a tower and started shooting at students who, of course, had no idea what was happening, this being the first such slaughter.
The autopsy revealed that the shooter had had a brain tumour.
And pretty much everything since then has just been copy-cat killings.
Jim – that’s great, I love to hear a success story.
The only time there was a problem was when some stupid do gooder social worker convinced the Mental Health to take him off it. He immediately stopped taking the meds and was as high as a kite inside a few months and ended up being sectioned and stuck in a mental hospital.
Many such cases!
Mental hospitals now are more your ‘Jab them full of something to calm them down and hopefully stop them thinking they are Jesus, then shift them out into ‘the Community’ as fast as possible’ sort of thing
Problem is, like prison cells or NHS dentists in the United Kingdom, they are thin on the ground irl, long waiting times unless you’re already at the point of suicide, etc. Mental elf is not a priority for Our NHS. They’re good at the handing out pills bit, not so good at fixing the underlying problems, or even scaling up trick doctor services to match population growth.
To some extent, it’s not their fault. Mentals are difficult to fix, often obstreperous patients, and nobody really knows what they’re doing. Therapy is a lottery, but the toolbag isn’t very well equipped beyond pharmacological intervention in any case.
Jung man, you don’t need to feel down.
DM – The autopsy revealed that the shooter had had a brain tumour.
They weren’t able to say for certain that was the case tho, due to the state of human ignorance about the organic functions of the brain. I’m not sure we know a lot more now, 60 years on. Which is why I don’t understand these computer geeks who think an artificial superintelligence is about to be built (on the same time scale as commercial nuclear fusion). We don’t understand human intelligence, how are we going to program a ZX Spectrum to emulate thinking?
“They weren’t able to say for certain that was the case”
*cause of his homicidal rampage, although it seems likely.
We don’t understand human intelligence, how are we going to program a ZX Spectrum to emulate thinking?
No need – you just need some slideware to convince venture capitalists and/or useful idiots in government to slip you a few billions.
If I remember rightly the first “school shooting” took place on a campus of the University of Texas where a loony took a rifle up into a tower and started shooting at students who, of course, had no idea what was happening, this being the first such slaughter.
The autopsy revealed that the shooter had had a brain tumour.
He left a note asking the authorities to do an autopsy because he suspected something was wrong.
@Jim
“that the staff don’t always wear uniforms” – i was told by an authoritative source to look at the shoes. The staff wear outdoors shoes, the patients slippers or whatever.