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Four in 10 new babies had at least one foreign-born parent last year, official figures show.

A total of 40.4 per cent of live births in Britain were to families with at least one parent not from the UK in 2024, up from 35.1 per cent in 2021, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

I wonder. Has there ever been immigration – population replacement if you wish – at this level before? Even the Angles and Saxons thing took a couple of centuries.

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Interested
Interested
7 months ago

No, there hasn’t.

It has to be deliberate, and planned, and the setting up of ‘racism’ as the worst possible sin designed to stop people objecting, or speaking against it if they did.

Eventually – ie around now, when people see black rappers on the BBC at Glastonbury gleefully taunting indigenous Britons with ‘I heard you want your country back? Fuck off, you can’t have that!’ – almost everyone will notice and start to wonder, but it will be too late.

Next: the minority will be predated upon by foreign residents inculcated with the idea that they deserve it.

Unless I’m mistaken.

Ottokring
Ottokring
7 months ago

And that is just official figures.
What are the real numbers ?

What is in it for the Treasury and politicians to do this ?
What did Merkel hope to achieve, or Johnson ?

Britain turns inexorably into Detroit.

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
7 months ago

The Great replacement has been underway for thirty years plus and has now acquired a momentum of its own. As the great Interested points out, a couple of black rappers were boasting about the impotence of the indigenous population. I don’t think anyone is beware of the scale of the problem either. Tackling this basically means complete replacement of the entire civil service and probably closure of every university in the country. No small undertaking but to be honest I think our goose is cooked.

AndyT
AndyT
7 months ago

Unless my maths is really wrong, that is under 0.4% of the population – so at this “scary number” level, it would indeed take a couple of centuries to “replace” the population.

In the 70’s living in Coventry, a good portion of my school friends were born to families with first generation immigrant parents.

As it is, we’re turning this place into enough of a shithole – under the leadership of a 90% white parliament – that immigrants are going to start going elsewhere. Problem solved.

Get a grip people.

Andyf
Andyf
7 months ago

@AndyT

Extrapolating how long it takes to replace a population isn’t the relevant analysis. It’s always going to take approaching a century for people to come and go. During this time those people being born now in the UK would have children, grandchildren and even great grandchildren as parents born in the UK. It makes getting a high number of children born with more than one parent foreign born something that shouldn’t inherently grow with time. Getting to as high as 40% is absolutely incomprehensible. It shows that we are undergoing an unprecedented influx of immigrants who are of child bearing age. Immigrant population tends to cluster in local areas with the same cultural background meaning there have always been specific areas where a lot of the children have foreign born parents. That incredible 40% suggests that the “local” area is now all of the UK.

dearieme
dearieme
7 months ago

Yes. The Indo-Europeans replaced essentially all males and many of the females. Tough luck, oh Neolithic people. The IEs originated in the Steppes of Ukraine and Russia and pressed west pretty quickly, exterminating the males over much of Northern Europe. Especially in the British Isles.

Less so in Southern Europe and not at all in Sardinia.

The Anglo-Saxons didn’t achieve anywhere near a complete replacement, at least according to the last book I read about it. Maybe knowledge has changed since then – since the book I mean not the Dark Ages.

El Draque
El Draque
7 months ago

The insidious phrase “Global Majority” is the threat.
They may soon claim to rule in the interests of that majority, not the electorate.
Reparations for ancient crimes will only be the start of it.

Addolff
Addolff
7 months ago

Andy T @ 6.53, “immigrants are going to start going elsewhere” – please tell me where this land of milk and honey is…………….
London has gone from 99% white to 30+% in 70 years, replaced by some peoples who think having as many children as possible is an obligation. It isn’t going to affect me other than making me angry that it has been allowed to happen by our political class and judiciary, but it will affect my grandchildren.

Roughly twice as many people have migrated to the UK since 2010 than came here between 1066 and 2000.

Marius
Marius
7 months ago

that is under 0.4% of the population

If all else fails, then a total pigheaded unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through …

we’re turning this place into enough of a shithole – under the leadership of a 90% white parliament

It is a shithole thanks to said parliament importing hordes of violent worthless mooching peasants, resulting in terrorism, industrial scale child rape, lawless ghettos, decades of static (at best) real wages, rising house prices and degraded public services.

And imbeciles like you still claim “we” should not be fretting about the Kabulisation of the nation. You’re so far in denial I’m surprised you haven’t drowned.

immigrants are going to start going elsewhere

Yeah, well spotted. The good ones already are. I doubt there’s many coming in from Japan or Norway. However, 90% of immigration is still from third world toilets, so I guess we’ll have to degrade a bit more before they turn their noses up.

John
John
7 months ago

so I guess we’ll have to degrade a bit more before they turn their noses up.

Never going to happen. Their countries are still and will probably always be far worse than the UK plus there’s all the Gibs. Nobody turns their noses up at free stuff.

At the very best they might spent more holidays and attend more weddings back in their allegedly war-torn hellholes (thereby opening the door for lucrative sub-letting income from their taxpayer funded UK homes)

There’s a lot of ruin in a nation as a wise man said and for now at least a seemingly endless facility for governments to borrow and print money to pay for the cosseting of our new masters (while naturally enriching themselves to a degree that would make “The big guy” Biden’s 10% appear miserly in comparison).

Penseivat
Penseivat
7 months ago

While modern white, British families are either delaying having children, or are stopping at one, there is a certain cultural group who have settled in this sceptic isle, and who insist on having many, many children. The fact that this culture does not allow females to have a say in this, exacerbates the situation. Like the Chinese, Islam plays the long game, and their aim in taking control of this country is already well under way. Ignore the black rappers. They will be taken care of in due course. Meanwhile, I wonder how long it will be before non-Muslims are publicly paying their dhimmi, while prostrate on their bellies, in order to be allowed to live among their rulers.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
7 months ago

“so I guess we’ll have to degrade a bit more before they turn their noses up.”

This is Greater Shithole Theory. They will only stop coming when here is worse than there. There is no hope in that eventuality.

Rhoda notes that we could have net zero immigration and replace the entire population both in the same year. We need to do something.

Interested
Interested
7 months ago

You have to believe in the complete change of human nature to think that there is not going to be enormous bloodshed in this country at some point.

Many Europeans have been lulled into thinking we have evolved as a species beyond killing each other for women, land, food, resources and even ‘respect’ because we have lived for quite a long time in a world with no practical shortage of any of these things.

But this is not the natural state of things and scarcity is on the way.

For AndyT it’s a simple matter of fairyland maths and having grown up listening to The Specials in the multicultural paradise of Coventry, where the West Indians all lived in Hillfields and Foleshill was where all the Indians and Pakistanis lived, and even Terry Hall noticed that the nightclubs were closing down because of all the stabbing and fighting.

The trouble is the maths are against him, and us.

You can coexist, just about, with people from very different cultures if they are in the minority and they broadly behave in accordance with the law, and in your turn you treat them with kindness and dignity.

I suggest that it is impossible to live peacefully with people who have been told to hate you, who may have religious reasons for wanting to kill you, who blame you for their own lowly position, and who are in certain areas already vastly in the majority.

Anyone who has lived or worked for any time in the Middle East or the Balkans, or anywhere else really, knows that this is the case, and anyone who says otherwise is either ignorant or driven by some sort of weird agenda.

As for dearieme pointing out that it has happened before, I was talking about modern history.

No modern country has gone through what we are going through at the moment – the enforced emplacement of millions of aliens, largely military age males, against the wishes of the host population, under the cover of lies and evasion, and with those incinerated receiving often better treatment by the State than their reluctant ‘hosts’.

By ‘we’ I mean us and other European countries and other western nations such as the USA and Australia.

Norman
Norman
7 months ago

Robert Tombs wrote on this very subject a fortnight ago:

https://archive.ph/2fU8g

The last mass migration event we had in these islands was probably when the Angles and Saxons displaced the Celts. Vikings raided and interbred rather than displaced the locals, and the Romans and Normans essentially displaced the ruling class, not the general population. And what’s more these were all white, more-or-less culturally adjacent people who blended into the general population after a generation or so, not blacks, browns and/or muslims.

Current immigration is entirely unprecedented in these islands.

Dave Ward
Dave Ward
7 months ago

“Nobody turns their noses up at free stuff”

And that is the crux of the matter. Stop the “Free Stuff” and they’ll go elsewhere…

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
7 months ago

Diversity + proximity = conflict.

So I expect numerous racial incidents, riots and terror attacks – a sort of low-level civil war – over the coming years. There are no easy ways to prevent this, but each incident can be used to move the Overton window and outflank the diversity lobby. The introduction of a voluntary repatriation scheme coupled with the banning of Halal slaughter, the defunding of separate muslim schools, strict planning controls on mosques, withdrawal of benefits, firm policing of immigrant communities etc, would be a start. Incentives to leave and disincentives to remain are needed. This problem has arisen over decades, and it will take a decade or two to resolve. But does the political class have the strength of will to save the nation? It would be a mammoth task…

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
7 months ago

“does the political class have the strength of will to save the nation? ”

Nope. They don’t have a will to do anything that would upset people who already hate us. That’s why the Donald pisses them off so much. He just solved the US immigration problem instantly. By doing something.

philip
philip
7 months ago

Recent replacements
Greeks and Turks after WW1
Tartars and Russians in Crimea
Germans and Russians in the Baltics
Various populations in E Europe after WW2

The difference is that our great replacement is happening before the war, not after.

Baron Jackfield
Baron Jackfield
7 months ago

According to Prof. Matt Goodwin (a young chappie who seems to have a reasonable grasp of numbers), the white indigenous population of the UK will become a minority (i.e. less than 50% of the population) considerably before the end of the century…

Our projections, which are based on the most reliable data in the country, suggest that White Britons will become a minority by the year 2063, the foreign-born and their immediate descendants will become a majority in the country by the year 2079, and one in five people in the UK will be following Islam by the end of the current century.

Ottokring
Ottokring
7 months ago

“The difference is that our great replacement is happening before the war, not after.”

Philip old chap. It is a war that we have already lost.

The “great migrations” of the Roman/Dark Ages were spread over 300 years and possibly only involved 1/4 million people. These peoples were more warlike than the ones they encountered, but that is just the cycle of history. The same thing happened before when the Celts and then the Romans arrived.

Because mass transport has been possible for the last 200 years, such migrations can be telescoped into a few years. Also governments have the ability to achieve this with often ruthless centralised state apparatus.

Gamecock
Gamecock
7 months ago

Yep. Romans killing off the Iceni.

Gamecock still doesn’t understand why Boudica got a statue.

Steve
Steve
7 months ago

Eventually – ie around now, when people see black rappers on the BBC at Glastonbury gleefully taunting indigenous Britons with ‘I heard you want your country back? Fuck off, you can’t have that!’ – almost everyone will notice and start to wonder, but it will be too late.

This is a loser’s mentality. As long as aeroplanes still work in both directions, it’s never too late.

The President of the United States is now openly tweeting about how great Remigration is, ffs. We will take back control over our country, stop paying free handouts to useless Third Worlders, and mass deport scum like the niggardly singer at Glastonbury.

Why? Because we can’t afford not to.

Steve
Steve
7 months ago

Figures follow surge in net migration after Tories loosened rules following Brexit

Theo, I think we should send the Tories to a gulag, it’s a lot more humane than executions. What say you?

Steve
Steve
7 months ago

BJ – suggest that White Britons will become a minority by the year 2063, the foreign-born and their immediate descendants will become a majority in the country by the year 2079, and one in five people in the UK will be following Islam by the end of the current century.

If trends continue.

But we know they won’t. This is the age of Black Swans, wars and rumours of wars, and white people in 2025 and not the same as white people in 1995. They’ve had a crash course in ID pol and are learning rapidly.

And don’t underestimate brown people either, most of them are on our side. Most normal people don’t want to live in a World of Clowns, they want economic opportunities, law and order, and social stability.

If our situation was hopeless, they wouldn’t need to demoralise us. The Right’s biggest problem is the same as an elephant that thinks a bit of rope is stopping him from rampaging free. They don’t know how powerful they are. Trump is showing them.

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Gamecock
Gamecock
7 months ago

“Why? Because we can’t afford not to.”

British decadence is the result of British prosperity. As the decadence kills prosperity, the affordability of luxury beliefs wanes.

Will UK come to its senses before the collapse? Only a climate scientist can tell the future.

Norman
Norman
7 months ago

The Danes seem to have the right idea, at least as a start. Social Democrats, too. Who’d have thought it?

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
7 months ago

And don’t underestimate brown people either, most of them are on our side.

Indeed. The main problem consists of the muslims and the jungle bunnies. Hindus tend to be right-of-centre, value education and form stable families. The vast majority of Sikhs voted for Brexit. Buddhists are lefty vegetarians, but are generally peaceable.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
7 months ago

Theo, I think we should send the Tories to a gulag, it’s a lot more humane than executions. What say you?

Many but not all, Steve. BoJo has a lot to answer for. And Traitor May should be in prison. [As should Blair(ites) for seeking to ‘rub our noses in diversity’.] Though the Tories are currently splitting the right-of-centre vote, they may yet be of use…if, say, Reform were to implode.

Steve
Steve
7 months ago

Theo – we have allies who are black or Muslim too. I get the sense a lot of people who are nominally Muslim don’t like Tower Hamlets style sectarian politics or their self-appointed “community leaders”. Those votes are winnable, we had plenty of Muslim lads on the Leave campaign.

Parasites and antisocial people come in all colours, but most people work for a living and dislike being robbed to pay for benefits seekers. The woke shit is also a turn off to voters of every ethnic background, so there’s everything to play for.

What is clearly doomed is the status quo of economic self-destruction and Infinity immigration. It’s going to be painful for some when we start addressing those problems. The supreme function of British statesmanship will be to make sure the costs fall as much as possible on the guilty. So… *somebody’s* going to lose their shirt over all the malinvestment in Net Zero, we should mak siccar as Dearieme might advise it’s the rich arseholes currently benefiting from green subsidies.

Norman
Norman
7 months ago

“we had plenty of Muslim lads on the Leave campaign”

Islam isn’t necessarily pro-EU, Steve. Divide & rule.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
7 months ago

Gamecock
British decadence is the result of British prosperity.
And yet the UK is poorer, in per capita GDP terms, than the poorest US state, Mississipi.
No, British decadence results from a failure to maintain our institutions. From the family to Parliament, from the civil service to the armed forces, from churches to clubs, from charities to schools and universities, from the English pub to the fish & chip shop, they are all in decay. The rot runs deep here – but also throughout the West…

dearieme
dearieme
7 months ago

“when the Angles and Saxons displaced the Celts.” But they didn’t; the book wot I read put the English and Scottish populations at 30% German, the Welsh at 20%, and the Irish at 10%. So the % Britons (or Gaels) was 70%, 80%, 90%. Anyone got more up to date figures?

Steve
Steve
7 months ago

Theo – I was also surprised, tho I shouldn’t have been, to find out how much John Major despises conservatives.

The curse of weak men. We have weak men running the government, weak men running the church, weak men running the police and the armed forces and the courts. The West is choking on estrogen.

Weak men are worse than useless, they’re a liability, because petty cowards. We need to get some bloody minded, proper men in positions of power. President Trump and President Milei are demonstrating how quickly things can be fixed by men who aren’t spineless wimps. If the Argies can do it, so can we.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
7 months ago

Steve

we have allies who are black or Muslim too. I get the sense a lot of people who are nominally Muslim don’t like Tower Hamlets style sectarian politics or their self-appointed “community leaders”. Those votes are winnable, we had plenty of Muslim lads on the Leave campaign.

You can’t trust a devout muslim. Taqiyya: it’s not a sin to lie to an infidel in the interests of Islam. That’s why they all have to go, apart perhaps from some professionals. Likewise, the jungle bunnies and their feral niglets…

Gamecock
Gamecock
7 months ago

“British decadence results from a failure to maintain our institutions”

And the failure is the same as it has been for millennia in the prosperity-decadence-collapse cycle.

The prosperous will not speak up to oppose the decadence. The government drifts into all sorts of decadent insanity, with BBC support, and no one will say a damn thing, because the prosperous are not going to destroy their own prosperity to save your sorry ass. The prosperous pray that the alligator eats him last.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” — (not) Edmund Burke

“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.” — John Stuart Mill, 1867

rhoda krupp
rhoda krupp
7 months ago

I stumbled across this
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/07/02/academic-uk-prepares-for-civil-war-but-uses-russia-as-political-cover/

earlier today. I think it’s bollocks, but interesting bollocks. Kinda like a right-wing fantasy. I’ll believe it when DEI stops.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
7 months ago

Rhoda krupp:
A link to David Betz’s paper:
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-0760/12/12/646

Norman
Norman
7 months ago

Rhoda, OTOH preparing a home civil defence force for a Russian invasion is bollocks on stilts. You’re not going to generate the necessary social cohesion by politely asking teenagers to join cadet forces, either.

You can harden infrastructure against the Russians, the “far right”, XR or Palestine Action. Kinda same difference, except we know the Establishment just loves XR and Palestine Action.

Perhaps the Establishment thinks the military is now so corrupted by DIE that it would actually defend it and the Channel Sailors, and not side with the indigenous. It may be right.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
7 months ago

Gamecock

…in the prosperity-decadence-collapse cycle.

Decadence often follows prosperity; but correlation is not necessarily causation. Prosperity is neither a necessary nor a sufficient factor for decadence. Other factors are at work…

Steve
Steve
7 months ago

Norman – Islam isn’t necessarily pro-EU, Steve. Divide & rule.

I’m not talking bout Islam tho. I’m talking bout Muslims, i.e. flesh and blood people of varying opinions and experiences, many of whom we can and should recruit to our side. Because we’ve got a country to save.

Theo – You can’t trust a devout muslim. Taqiyya: it’s not a sin to lie to an infidel in the interests of Islam. That’s why they all have to go, apart perhaps from some professionals. Likewise, the jungle bunnies and their feral niglets…

Our friend Jesus told us to be as wise as serpents and harmless as doves. Who am I to disagree? But see my answer to the right honourable gentleman some moments ago.

We have a couple of different options:

* Assume people are our enemies, which tends to self-fulfill?

* Persuade them to be our friends, because that’s a win-win, no?

Why do I keep banging on about this? Because demographics aren’t destiny. Because we were not given a spirit of fear. Because we have a country to save, and if Khaled and Duane want to pitch in because they love Britain and freedom too, we are brothers. The Enemy would love to keep the populist right in a box marked “elderly racists”, because divide and rule isn’t just an Islamic thing, is it now? Fuck them. Take their “allies” away from them.

Use the handy wedge issues our foes have gifted us – do we think Mohammed wants drag queens at his wife’s primary school? Do we think Owengwe enjoys paying top rate income tax to have the hotels in his town filled up with freeloaders? Do we think Pavel came to Britain to give his children a Net Zeroed future of government-imposed poverty? – to carve up the leftwing grand coalition like a godawful tofu turkey. Build a grand coalition of normal people who just want the government to do normal things, such as enforce borders and laws.

You’re welcome.

Steve
Steve
7 months ago

Oh yeah, never forget “When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will like the strong horse.” – Osama bin Laden

For many decades, the American Left had assumed the Hispanification of the general population would ensure its eternal dominance in national politics. This was not a completely daft assumption, because Latino voting patterns were massively pro-D for a long time.

Until Senor Tromp, un mucho macho presidente, appeared with the radical approach of asking Hispanics (and blacks, Jews, Catholics, etc) to vote for him. Anybody who knows anything about Latin Americans, delightful peoples, knows they love a caudillo. Now all their eses are belong to Trump. Lolz! So Net Zero and Infinity Immigration have been cancelled in the United States, thanks to Hispanic and black voters swinging Trumpward enough to give a Dimbleby an unwanted erection.

Strong horses, I say.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
7 months ago

Steve

Islamics cannot be trusted, so we must be as wise as serpents (which Christians often aren’t, preferring doves…): because taqiyya. Islam is fundamentally at odds with (what’s left of) western civilisation, because Islam has no secular space: it is both a political ideology and a religion, which governs the minutiae of life. Integration – British Islam – is impossible: muslims will always be separate – with an everlasting sense of grievance, victimhood and rectitude. At least 90% of them will have to go…with a voluntary repatriation scheme after the banning of the burqa, muslim schools, halal slaughter, etc…

Bongo
Bongo
7 months ago

If ‘civil servant’ and ‘social smoker’ are oxymorons, is the same true of ‘islamic scholar’?

Norman
Norman
7 months ago

Theo, agree. If we’re going to have such a thing as a nation-state it has to be a nation characterised by a single recognisable culture. Ghettoes are out, unless they’re so small-scale and benign as to be of little account. Stamford Hill can stay.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
7 months ago

Norman,

The Danes seem to have the right idea, at least as a start. Social Democrats, too. Who’d have thought it?

The Social Democrats saw what was happening in Sweden and starting to happen in their country and realised they had a choice: sort the problem out or hand over government to a right (far right in their minds) party who’d probably go a lot further than they want.

You’d think that Labour would take the hint, especially as one of their princlings is married to a Danish politician.

AndyT
AndyT
7 months ago

And imbeciles like you still claim “we” should not be fretting about the Kabulisation of the nation.

So angry. So righteous. Bless. It’s a poor substitute for braincells.

And that is the crux of the matter. Stop the “Free Stuff” and they’ll go elsewhere…

This is the wonderful doublethink – we’re the best place on the planet, that they cannot resist, and we’re also being bankrupt by an influx of beggars. If they’re bankrupting the nation, then the free stuff stops whether we want it to or not.

For AndyT it’s a simple matter of fairyland maths and having grown up listening to The Specials in the multicultural paradise of Coventry, where the West Indians all lived in Hillfields and Foleshill was where all the Indians and Pakistanis lived, and even Terry Hall noticed that the nightclubs were closing down because of all the stabbing and fighting.

I was (briefly) a bouncer in Coventry. I’ve stood watching the blood dripping down the wall of club toilets. Don’t be a twat. The ‘fairyland maths’ was the same in the 70’s there – and it was the same snowflake white guys panicking that immigrants would steal their comfy little lives. We had more trouble from “Christian” white guys than anyone else.

Gamecock
Gamecock
7 months ago

“You can’t trust a devout muslim.”

Don’t trust Mormons, either.

Gamecock
Gamecock
7 months ago

“Prosperity is neither a necessary nor a sufficient factor for decadence.”

Don’t be ridiculous. You can’t have luxury beliefs if you don’t know where your next meal is coming from.

Jim
Jim
7 months ago

“do we think Mohammed wants drag queens at his wife’s primary school? ”

Nor does he want anyone to point out how Islam is a backward ideology for knuckle draggers. Or draws any picture of Mo. And will happily stab anyone who says or does so. Or tacitly supports those who will.

On the basis that there is no country that both majority Islamic and a liberal democracy, accepting the ‘support’ of even some Muslims to your cause is inviting the camel into the tent. Look how Reform are getting on with their tame one. Suggest that maybe the burka should be banned (and remember the burka is not even required in Islamic teaching) and he throws a wobbler.

Those sort of ‘supporters’ are more trouble than they are worth.

Interested
Interested
7 months ago

The ‘fairyland maths’ was the same in the 70’s there – and it was the same snowflake white guys panicking that immigrants would steal their comfy little lives. We had more trouble from “Christian” white guys than anyone else.

Absolute bollocks.

Norman
Norman
7 months ago

AndyT does seem to be an accomplished self-deluder with the most massive chip on his shoulder. I wonder what put it there?

Charles
Charles
7 months ago

When I read “foreign born” in an article, I have come to expect racism to follow. What is supposed to be the significance of “foreign born”? Apart from a dog-whistle? Is it really intended to include the likes of Boris Johnston? He has narrowly avoided contributing to that statistic, having had a son in 2023, and a daughter in 2025, but no child in 2024.

@Interested – “You have to believe in the complete change of human nature to think that there is not going to be enormous bloodshed in this country at some point.”

Now where have I heard that before. Ah yes, it was this: “As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see ‘the River Tiber foaming with much blood’.” That hasn’t aged well.

Interested
Interested
7 months ago

Now where have I heard that before. Ah yes, it was this: “As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see ‘the River Tiber foaming with much blood’.” That hasn’t aged well.

Hasn’t aged well in the sense that it hasn’t happened? That depends on your definition of ‘much’ blood – there are zombie knife killings every week and terrorist outrages aplenty, not to mention tens of thousands of young girls raped and tortured – today’s Times https://archive.ph/y8AVS

Or hasn’t aged well in the sense that it never will happen? Because that’s a matter of opinion and prediction.

M
M
7 months ago

Yes this is unprecedented. Moving from one country to another is much cheaper than it’s ever been, and the population differential is greater as well.

john77
john77
7 months ago

@ Interested
The mortality rate among “black” teenagers from knives in London is enough to make the Tiber foam if all the murders were miraculously transported to the Sublician bridge.

John
John
7 months ago

Norman,

Best to ignore.

jgh
jgh
7 months ago

AndyT: Yes, 0.4% – but PER YEAR. It all adds up, it’s 15% of the population are foreign-born and closing on 25% foreign-born or born of foreigners. Having your native-born population crash to 75% in two generations is unprecedented. The last I can remember is the Harrying Of The North, when Bill The Basterd literally exterminated the population of northern England then repopulated it with his buddies.

Michael
Michael
7 months ago

Steve is not a man. Steve is a warped, depraved, twisted woman with a sexual attraction to bad boys and bullies.
She got where she is by sucking up to bad guys. Nobody should listen to her. Her sexual instincts drive her to supporting bad people.
She has bigoted and sick views.
She has supported bullies and insulted good decent people. Steve should leave politics to goof people.

Michael
Michael
7 months ago

I mean she as in Steve should leave politics to good people.

Charles
Charles
7 months ago

@Interested – “Hasn’t aged well in the sense that it hasn’t happened?”

Indeed.

– “That depends on your definition of ‘much’ blood”

The original intention was to suggest that there would be large scale fighting between black and white people, which there isn’t.

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