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Black people in England are almost four times as likely to face homelessness as white people and substantially less likely to get social housing, according to the first major study into homelessness and racism in more than two decades.

A three-year research project by academics at Heriot-Watt University found that ethnicity affects a person’s risk of homelessness, even when controlling for factors such as geography, poverty and home ownership rates.

They recorded evidence of people resorting to changing their name, accent and hairstyle to try to gain access to housing and other services, and being told by housing officers to be grateful because “you don’t have this back in your country”.

The report’s lead author, Prof Suzanne Fitzpatrick, said: “There are long-term forms of structural disadvantage, rooted in historic racism, which are impacting on risks of homelessness. But the data indicates present-day discrimination is also playing a role. We heard reports of really overt racism from private landlords – refusing to house people because they’re black, particularly if they’re refugees, or imposing rules or restrictions on them that they don’t impose on other tenants.”

What’s the betting the report doesn’t break out the numbers the other way? By citizenship, right to stay, work permit, refugee status and so on? So that we could see whether it’s because I is black or it’s because I is a newbie with no income?

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Ottokring
Ottokring
9 months ago

Academics who use ‘impacting’ as a verb should not only be ignored, but thrown off Beachy Head then buried.

Bongo
Bongo
9 months ago

So not being racist will solve the homeless problem. Er no.

jgh
jgh
9 months ago

I hear biology is racist now Father.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
9 months ago

A landlord’s consideration wsould be about ability (and likelihood) to pay and propensity for disruption and trouble. Maybe that’s got something to do with it. Did they ask any private landlords?

(Another study which reverses time’s arrow, the conclusion known before the survey begins.)

Norman
Norman
9 months ago

being told by housing officers to be grateful because “you don’t have this back in your country”.

Quite so. They don’t have it back in their countries which is why they’re here sponging off us.

refusing to house people because they’re black, particularly if they’re refugees, or imposing rules or restrictions on them that they don’t impose on other tenants.”

Name me the landlord happy and eager to get shit tenants. Were I a landlord – which I may yet become – I’m not sure I’d want to subject myself and my neighbours to the costs, damage, disruption and sheer unpleasantness of primitive third-world cuntism. It has always been thus: it used to be the Irish because in general they were also uncivilised cunts. OTOH there are perfectly nice black people in my apartment block and I’d be happy to rent to others like them.

So I think we’ll find that it’s because I is black and it’s because I is a newbie with no income, but of course that doesn’t fit the narrative, does it?

David
David
9 months ago

I don’t believe this I went to a party in the world’s end estate in Chelsea about 25 years ago and there was not a single white tenant.
90% of Somalis live in social housing.

Andyf
Andyf
9 months ago

When people such as these academics look at “ethnicity” they invariably conclude that the poor outcomes for black people are evidence of white people being bad. Why do they never look at the not too dissimilar sized group of Indian people, who being “brown” should have much the same problems, but don’t. Perhaps it would be useful to remove the “white man bad” effect from their studies by comparing the two groups side by side to understand why the outcome for one group is so much better than the other.

Ottokring
Ottokring
9 months ago

How many landlords are in fact ‘brown’ people ?
Are they swayed by race at all ?

Bloke in Cyprus
Bloke in Cyprus
9 months ago

No Dogs, no Blacks, no Irish…

Tractor Gent
Tractor Gent
9 months ago

Andyf: I guess the point really is to say “white man bad” yet again. But as Otto says, many landlords aren’t ‘white’ anyway.

RichardT
RichardT
9 months ago

“ being told by housing officers to be grateful because “you don’t have this back in your country”.”

Is anyone else having trouble believing that local council employees (or even housing association ones) are saying this?

Pils
Pils
9 months ago

RichardT my thoughts exactly.

So this study wasn’t by any chance a self-selected study of homeless darker immigrant ethnics that used their anecdotal replies as evidence?

John
John
9 months ago

“ being told by housing officers to be grateful because “

Once again I am reminded of the contributor on here who proudly announced that his non UK-citizen spouse prioritised her fellow countrymen for appointments through her job as a GP’s receptionist.

My experience of the ethnicity of local government officials leads me to expect the same applies for housing allocation and therefore call bullshit on the original claim.

Esteban
Esteban
9 months ago

Left-wing academic types (redundant, I know) find what they were looking for, who would have guessed?

I always wondered about “scientific studies” in the “social sciences”, but apparently there’s a problem with replicability in all areas of science.

“We heard reports of” – it’s not like there have ever been any hoaxes or people assume they didn’t get what they wanted due to racism.

philip
philip
9 months ago

It looks to me like there are more ethnics making themselves deliberately homeless in order to oblige the council to house them.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
9 months ago

Shit things happen to black people all over the world. Something must be done. See also the Oxfam post.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
9 months ago

Friend of mine let a house to a Nigerian pastor and his wife, who provided references etc. They trashed the place, burning the furniture, banisters, kitchen unit doors. Then they fled and were last seen in a dilapidated camper van.

Bongo
Bongo
9 months ago

Just an awful report, full link here
https://pure.hw.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/151643532/HW_A4_report_Homelessness_BEM_report_4.0.pdf
We’re supposed to accept that they just controlled for all the variables using some official data from 2016-2018, and some ‘modelling’ but no link to the report showing how they did that.
I can see they used:
Demographics
Residual
Ethnic-related
Employment
Housing
Poverty
But what about not meeting the god-damned criteria. Or rejecting a move from London to Lancashire/Merthyr/Middlesbrough and the council washes its hands of you.
I mean you’ve got to be pretty racist to think London good, Merthyr schit, because London has more of ‘your people’.

john77
john77
9 months ago

Access to council housing is based on a group of criteria, one of which is “how long have you lived in the town/district providing the housing”. So of course recent immigrants will be placed behind long-term residents *with all other needs the same* in the queue.
To get a fair comparison of race-related issues you need to compare like-for-like on *all* criteria before screaming “racism”.

Steve
Steve
9 months ago

Black people in England are almost four times as likely to face homelessness as white people and substantially less likely to get social housing

Good.


They recorded evidence of people resorting to changing their name, accent and hairstyle to try to gain access to housing and other services, and being told by housing officers to be grateful because “you don’t have this back in your country”.

“Gain access” to your own country in Africa.

refusing to house people because they’re black, particularly if they’re refugees,

That’s because refugees are not welcome here. Now fuck off.

john77
john77
9 months ago

@ Bongo
Thanks.
I do not feel up to reading it all in one go, but I found the claim that prioritising “rough sleepers” over other, merely nominally, “homeless” was racial discrimination because “rough sleepers” are more likely to be white.
Then I needed a break

john77
john77
9 months ago

@ steve
*Genuine* refugees should be welcome, east european gangsters less so

Ottokring
Ottokring
9 months ago

John77

How do we know what colour they are, under all that dirt ?

Anyway there is a ‘hard core’ of rough sleepers in this country. If you gave them a flat, they’d go and doss downstairs by the bins.

Steve
Steve
9 months ago

John – I agree we should accept genuine refugees from a diversity of backgrounds (white farmers from South Africa AND white Christian Ukrainians)

In general, anybody crying about “access to” things is a pathetic parasite we should flush down the toilet. Successful people don’t need “access to” housing, they have money. We don’t want any more losers or beggars. I understand there’s plenty of mud huts in sub-Saharan Africa, so there’s the housing problem solved in one flight.

Gamecock
Gamecock
9 months ago

Gamecock looks at Prof Suzanne Fitzpatrick’s data and sees the obvious:

Ethnic people are incapable of taking care of themselves.

The fine professor argues FOR SLAVERY.

Norman
Norman
9 months ago

“Gamecock looks at Prof Suzanne Fitzpatrick’s data”

Googled Prof Suzanne Fitzpatrick. Looked at pictures and saw exactly what I expected: Smug Supercilious Sanctimonious Progressive White Woman. about the only thing missing was the blue hair. Perhaps the tatts.

Jim
Jim
9 months ago

“Googled Prof Suzanne Fitzpatrick. Looked at pictures and saw exactly what I expected: Smug Supercilious Sanctimonious Progressive White Woman”

Who almost certainly does not live near any of the non-white people whose presence she demands in the UK. Not least because she lives in Scotland which is hideously 96% white. And is a university professor at Heriot-Watt, so won’t be living in the scuzzy parts of Edinburgh either.

Steve
Steve
9 months ago

Jim – Not least because she lives in Scotland which is hideously 96% white.

20 years ago.

Been to Glasgow lately? It’s a shithole.

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
9 months ago

Well we should not forget what the endgame is – to make it illegal to evict someone who is black for any reason. So the longer term goal is that White people’s houses are seized as compensation for slavery.

She should be looking at a lengthy spell inside on treason charges or ideally post repeal of the HRA the former punishment for high treason.

john77
john77
9 months ago

@ Ottokring
Maybe I was not making myself clear. The Heriot-Watt team decided that prioritising “rough sleepers” over those who were only *nominally* homeless – they had a dwelling wherein to sleep at night – was racist because most “rough sleepers” are white.

john77
john77
9 months ago

The website cut me off in mid flow. Is it racist to send an ambulance to someone run over by a car and possible bleeding to death while you’ve got someone with a black eye waiting in the queue in A&E?

Norman
Norman
9 months ago

J77, if the car victim is white and the A&E black eye is not then of course it is. What were you thinking? You need unconscious bias training.

Steve
Steve
9 months ago

Does “the homeless” include the female (it’s always females) Eastern European gypsies I see being dropped off at “work” in a Mercedes to sit and beg outside the local supermarkets all day?

I told one to fuck off just yesterday. Was feeling grumpy, didn’t see her, and therefore didn’t expect to be accosted with the the “HELLOOOOO…” they do while trying to look innocent and pathetic, huddled in a dirty blanket outside a shop. And this woman was clearly young enough and fit enough to have a job, if she was interested in a non-parasitic lifestyle. She looked in much better health than me.

To be fair, they shut up fast when they realise you’re a horrible cunt and they won’t be able to weaponise British politeness against you.

Gamecock
Gamecock
9 months ago

21st century slavery: whites take care of the blacks, but get NOTHING in return.

Norman
Norman
9 months ago

Rentiers, extracting an economic rent from their property. We are their property. Same goes for the public sector, extracting an economic rent from the taxpayer. Their tax on the wealth we create is their property.

(And the public sector doesn’t pay tax. All of the “tax” they pay is just a reimbursement to the government of some of the taxpayers’ money they’ve been paid as salary. Where else does their income come from? Their gross income is just a fake number.)

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
9 months ago

And the public sector doesn’t pay tax. All of the “tax” they pay is just a reimbursement to the government of some of the taxpayers’ money they’ve been paid as salary. Where else does their income come from? Their gross income is just a fake number.

Having been a public sector employee and then made enough money in the private sector to retire comfortably when I was 60 I can assure you I resented the tax deductions equally in both sectors.

The real eye opener is being a director and having to do a tax return.

What you’re talking about is accounting.

Bloke in Wales
Bloke in Wales
9 months ago

The real eye opener is being a director and having to do a tax return.

Which is why PAYE is so pernicious. Those paying don’t miss what they never had.

Everyone should feel the pain of writing a cheque/doing a BACS transfer to the taxcunts.

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