The NHS must change how black men are treated for prostate cancer to prevent “an epidemic of unnecessary deaths” in which twice as many die as white men, campaigners have warned.
Academics are seeking to raise awareness that one in four black men are getting this cancer, twice the rate of white men, which is one in eight, according to Prostate Cancer UK’s analysis of patient datasets for England. One in 12 black men are at risk of dying of this condition compared with one in 24 white men.
If the same number – or portion – get the disease but more die of it then it’s differential treatment. If the same portion of those who get it die then it’s not differential treatment and if more people get it but the same portion who do die then again, it’ not treatment that’s different. It’s something before treatment.
But then this is being driven by the ususal type of race grifter (an expert in forensic archaeology apparently) so there we are.
Didn’t we have an identical article and thread a couple of weeks ago about the higher rate of black infant mortality?
And whitey is always to blame…
wtf does ‘at risk of dying of mean’?
100% of men are at risk of dying of electrocution from sticking their dick in the mains. Very few actually will though.
Lots of old boys die WITH prostate cancer, very few die OF it.
Most of them actually die of Covid.(Apparently).
Typical journalist waffle. He means when they die, they die because of it rather than of something else.
Though that’s likely not true either. Prostate cancer tends to be something you die with, rather than of. Since it usually grows pretty slowly.
Though that’s also tricky. Prostate cancer that never metastasizes wouldn’t really be a cause of death. So it’s when it spreads that it kills you. Or the other infections you become more vulnerable to.
This is why “cause of death” has space for more than one entry on the form.
And “cause of death” is not an exact science…
I do remember listening in to a fascinating discussion about recording a death by drowning while fishing. There are different codes for drowning while angling having waded into the river or if you fall out of a boat. There are probably different codes if it is the sea instead. Obviously, the recording Drs report didn’t provide the appropriate detail.
It had my Uncle Eric, PBUH. He only realised something was up when it had already got into his bones. Medics completely missed it.
My Pops too.
I thought we are all, not “at risk” but “certainly will”, die?
“We are living through an epidemic of unnecessary deaths of black men,” said Stafford Scott a community activist.
Ah, the race grifter extraordinaire himself. And of course the reasond why black men are ‘being diagnosed late and so are coming into the system late’ must be due to prejudice, and not the fact of their own lack of health conciousness… .
“We are trying to build capacity among black men to hold the NHS to account.”
Just tell them to go rto the doctors to get checked out you moron!
Also, black men tend to have have higher testosterone levels, which could affect prostate cancer levels.
Forget it Jake, it’s The Guardian.
…the ususal type of race grifter (an expert in forensic archaeology apparently)
Not even that exalted:
…guest professor of forensic architecture at Goldsmiths…
Where ‘forensic archaeology’ probably means discovering that Britain was really built by black people…
forensic architecture?
If it was “why was that building built like it is?” or “why did that building turn out to be a heap of shit?” it could be a very useful subject. Might deter architects from designing heaps of shit.
But somehow I suspect it isn’t
Indeed.
I’ve seen Americans mention “racism fatigue” a.k.a. “black fatigue”.
Nagger fatigue
>we are being diagnosed late and so are coming into the system late.
So differential treatment then
There’s at least 2 parts to this problem: You can’t be diagnosed if you don’t present, and if you do present your GP has to do the tests and make a decision forward the results to a urology department.
I’d start by asking if black men have a greater or lesser objection to having a finger stuck up their arse than white men?
They still do that? How…..medieval….
Modern scans use ultrasonics, which is not only less… invasive… but also picks up on developing problems far sooner than “manual detection” will ever manage to accomplish.
Because if you can feel the lumps, you’re already Too Late….
They do it as a 1st step. When my PSA test came back a bit high the doc did one to decide if he should send off the results to the consultant.
The ProstateCancerUK web-site has this “In the UK, 1 in 8 men will get prostate cancer. And if you’re over 50 . . your risk is even higher.” I can’t parse that – so if you’re 45M your risk that you will get it is under 1 in 8, and if you’re 55M it’s more. Maybe there’s some peak to this risk in your 80s beyond which something else is likely to get you.
It’s the Graun. So the NHS, which is stuffed to the gills with black and brown doctors and nurses is actually an institution in the thrall of rampant racism because of unexplained reasons and obviously nothing to do with the black and brown medical staff.
@ Grist
The NHS is majority female. The death rate from (as distinct from with) prostate cancer is significantly greater than that from breast cancer. Guess which gets most publicity and research funding (let alone treatment)?
Racial discrimination is an (almost certainly unintended) second-order side-effect
Precisely. MY half-Japanese doctor daughter has been suffering racism… from a Syrian registrar who has only been in the country for two years and is completely unsocialised in British mores.
Whitey is so evil he can even make the sainted black and brown folk discriminate against their own.
It does make you wonder why so many keep coming here. If the UK is so uniquely racist, why do they make a beeline here? I mean there weren’t Jews moving to Germany in 1938 were there?
Cancer be’s racist innit
Yep. That’s one in eight. Great work!
“”an expert in forensic archaeology apparently”
As if all archaeology doesn’t involve the dead.
‘Academics say”
Recognition of differing outcomes could prompt the formation of a hypothesis, such as:
“NHS treats Black! men with prostate cancer differently than others.”
It is testable by examining treatments.
Declaring treatment is different because outcomes are different is just stupid. Academics are dicks. What are these differences in treatment? Or is this just a begging the question fallacy . . . okay, of course it is.
BWTM: this is feeding Black! character disorder, telling them that their problems are being caused by other people, and they need White Saviors (slave owners) like The Guardian to survive.
Okay. HOW? What specifically needs to change? HOW are black men being treated differently? Betcha they can’t name any. Additionally, I can’t imagine a health worker not treating people the same; it makes no sense. If NHS has different treatment protocols for different races, they couldn’t keep it a secret.
Activist Scott recommends starting PSA testing in black men earlier. That is not a treatment. Nor is it’s efficacy widely accepted.
He also recommends hiring more black medical staff. That is not a treatment.
Guardian doesn’t care; it fits the narrative.
PSA testing. Yeah, my Uncle Eric had that. He still died from metastasised undiagnosed prostate cancer.
Black people are our most productive citizens, they are also famously law abiding, intelligent, and fragrant.
No cost is too great to keep these priceless and irreplaceable Blacks alive and in good health while they consume marijuana and bargain buckets of fried chicken. If it hadn’t been for white racism and colonialism, they’d be breakdancing or possibly stealing bicycles on Mars by now.
As Nelson Mandela once said: “mup da doo didda po mo gub bidda be dat tum muhfugen bix nood cof bin dub ho muhfugga.”. Words to live by, friends. ♥️
Indeed, and…
And whose fault is that? If you want to actually do something for black men, do public service announcements advising them to get screened younger.
BWTM: if Blacks! need to be screened earlier, they are DIFFERENT. Not like other people. Therefore, a different outcome should not be an indictment of NHS. It should be expected.
Wut? What would this change? It is ANTIBLACK. It leaves some still treated by Dr White. He should be demanding segregated, ALL BLACK NHS facilities. If whitey isn’t treating them right, then you must stop Dr White from treating them. Dr White treating fewer does nothing.
And equity? These people are not serious. Who is paying for their microphone? They offer zero evidence that black men are treated any different than any other men.
Ahh . . . there is money to be had!