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Well that seals it

As Polly’s agin’ then all good and true must be in favour:

Labour has just one overriding task. Forget all the other missions and milestones: Britain faces a peril that was beyond imagining a short time ago. Saving the country from Nigel Farage is the urgent, patriotic duty of this government; it is vital that it prevents an extremist, racist, authoritarian takeover which would be against the will of the overwhelming majority of the population. Nothing else matters more.

Err, yes:

Put David Lammy at the front of this assault:

That’ll get that Mastermind video some more views, yes.

Taxes must rise for all

That’ll help too.

save the country from Farage.

He’s self-made – to an extent – d’ye see? Nothing the aristos hate more than someone who did it themselves rather than getting ggg grandfather to climb the greasy pole.

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Bloke in Wales
Bloke in Wales
6 months ago

it prevents an extremist, racist, authoritarian takeover which would be against the will of the overwhelming majority of the population…

… of Islington. FTFH.

JuliaM
6 months ago
Reply to  Bloke in Wales

Very good!

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
6 months ago
Reply to  Bloke in Wales

Wouldn’t be too sure of that quote. Sounds like someone’s a bit behind the times.

John
John
6 months ago

BiW

As it becomes increasingly obvious that the entire apparatus of state favours every other demographic above white people its equally obvious that the takeover has already happened.

Now take that English flag down you racist!

Grist
Grist
6 months ago

We all know Pol is absolutely, terminally barking mad but how anyone with a minute particle of brain can call a government that fights to obtain a legal ruling that that heavily bearded bloke from the middle east fit and of fighting age who wants to rape and torture little white girls has more “rights” than me, “patriotic” is beyond redemption.

Jonathan
Jonathan
6 months ago
Reply to  Grist

Yes; that’s literally what their lawyers argued in the Epping appeal.

JuliaM
6 months ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Argued, and triumphed!

Martin Near The M25
Martin Near The M25
6 months ago

It’s quite likely that Farage will get in and Polly’s mates will make it impossible for him to do anything. Let’s see if they like what comes after that.

Interested
Interested
6 months ago

I don’t like Farage personally – I think he’s if not a complete fraudster then a man who likes to run campaigns but has shown no ability to work out what comes next.

This was seen most vividly in Brexit, where he appeared to think it was job done – instead of posing for pictures holding champagne glasses he should have doubled down on organising.

Undeniably I fear we have lost the PR battle that followed, largely because the left/Blob is quite prepared to lie through its teeth and to enlist the support of a compliant and willing media.

I’d far prefer Rupert Lowe.

But if it’s to be Farage then he has to start by sacking senior civil servants (and let them sue for unfair dismissal if they wish), replacing chief constables, and cutting all government grants to the media. The BBC also needs to be sold off.

Last edited 6 months ago by Interested
Interested
Interested
6 months ago
Reply to  Interested

Edit function working fine for me.

Martin Near The M25
Martin Near The M25
6 months ago
Reply to  Interested

I think we agree, I’ve joined Restore Britain. Farage seems to be recruiting all the useless wet tories we kicked out last time. But I don’t see any realistic alternative, esp. if there’s a crash and Labour is forced out next year when they rebel against the cuts.

andyf
andyf
6 months ago
Reply to  Interested

It’s hard to double down on the organising when you’re not part of the government and they want to ignore both you and the choice of the electorate.

Interested
Interested
6 months ago
Reply to  andyf

I don’t mean organising the workings of the State, I mean organising the opposition to the workings of the State.

The left does this all the time – it’s how they overthrew the Tsar, for instance – but our side doesn’t seem to want to do the work.

There’s a reason why every parish council in the country is stuffed full of Greens, and it’s not because the public supports them, it’s because they are prepared to sit in endless bullshit committee meetings with very little power because they recognise it’s the first step on a very long road. We more want to get pissed, make money, and shag birds (and nothing wrong with any of that).

From parish councils to district councils to county councils to MPs to power. The Islamists are treading the same path.

Public meetings, protests, starting quangos, holding meetings with articulate speeches, getting jobs in charities, getting people into the civil service. It takes time, and planning.

Our issue is we have it too easy, and have yet (en masse) to wake up to the looming nightmare (if that’s not a contradiction in terms).

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
6 months ago
Reply to  Interested

I don’t think he’s a fraudster. I just think he’s a wartime guy, a startup guy, an ideas guy. Not a detail/policy guy.

Chris Miller
Chris Miller
6 months ago
Reply to  Interested

But UKIP weren’t in the running to become the government. The sole point of voting Leave was to return power to where it belongs, our elected representatives. The fact that they then royally stuffed it up, with enormous ‘help’ from the Blob and a large-scaler refusal of “Loser’s consent”, hasn’t been Farage’s fault.

Jim
Jim
6 months ago

Which is why my theory of what Reform should do once in power is just abolish laws. Rather than try and get the Civil Service to do what it wants or reform the existing laws, just remove the State’s power to stop private individuals doing stuff. None of which can be stymied by the courts, because if there isn’t a law then there’s nothing for the courts to rule on. Abolish the Human Rights Act, don’t replace it. Abolish the Equality Act, don’t replace it. Abolish the Climate Change Act, don’t replace it, etc etc.

Bloke in Cyprus
Bloke in Cyprus
6 months ago
Reply to  Jim

THIS!

Ottokring
Ottokring
6 months ago

Polly has access to a new technology that she uses to write artickes.

Artificial Thickness

Although in her case I think it’s the Real Thing

Martin Near The M25
Martin Near The M25
6 months ago
Reply to  Ottokring

She’s been writing the same article for decades. Why change now?

Ottokring
Ottokring
6 months ago

Badgers

Last edited 6 months ago by Ottokring
John
John
6 months ago
Reply to  Ottokring

No idea why but have an upvote because I like badgers.

Richard (NOT Murphy)
Admin
6 months ago
Reply to  John

Mwuahahhaha

download
bloke in spain
bloke in spain
6 months ago

Later photos do show a distinct badgerness around the jowls..One suspects onset of late middle age turkeyneck.

Last edited 6 months ago by bloke in spain
Mohave Greenie
Mohave Greenie
6 months ago
Reply to  Ottokring

“Badgers! We don’t need no steenkin badgers!”
HT Weird Al UHF

Ottokring
Ottokring
6 months ago

Tim

The edit function seems to work
But the picture attachment doesn’t

I”ll have a bit of a play, so some rather random posts might crop up

Ottokring
Ottokring
6 months ago
Reply to  Ottokring

Dear Ottokring
…it’s people like you…. Mussolini….upside down from petrol stations… Latimer and Ridley…too good for the likes of you…

P Toynbee

Richard (NOT Murphy)
Admin
6 months ago
Reply to  Ottokring

Its all very new – so were expecting some bugs..

Codemonkey.

Ottokring
Ottokring
6 months ago

Ah I see, duh

I can’t upvote my own comment. Makes sense

So that feature DOES work

Have a smiley face for larks

Ottokring
Ottokring
6 months ago
Reply to  Ottokring

The emoji didn’t come up.
Which is good really 🙂

But text emojis still work .

Last edited 6 months ago by Ottokring
Jonathan
Jonathan
6 months ago

<b>.Remember this: the die is not yet cast in this era of wild volatility. Look how Mark Carney in Canada and Anthony Albanese in Australia soared out of nowhere.</b>

It’s amazing how importing a new electorate can change a countries politics…

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
6 months ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Looks HTML tags don’t work but you do get text options in the comments box.

Jonathan
Jonathan
6 months ago

Thanks BiND – spotted that after I’d posted!

Interested
Interested
6 months ago

Testing quote function:

How does this look?

Richard (Not Murphy)
Richard (Not Murphy)
6 months ago

I’ve enabled HTML so <b>hello</b> should work!? …. and he gulps as he posts having typed it….

Richard (Not Murphy)
Richard (Not Murphy)
6 months ago

fuck.

ill look at this.

Grikath
Grikath
6 months ago

Could be this template uses one of the other markup codes as seen in other forums?
Like :i: or [i] for italics

or… <em>test</em>
:i:test:/i:
[i]test[/i]
*test*

Nope… none of those..so it’s not one of the Beardy alternatives.

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Western Bloke
Western Bloke
6 months ago

This is all very selective by Polly. There’s a YouGov survey of most important political issues and immigration and asylum is the most important issue amongst Labour voters, just ahead of the economy. It’s been a top 3 issue for about 3 years.

jgh
jgh
6 months ago

an extremist, racist, authoritarian takeover

That’ll be the millions of people flooding into the country, right?

Gamecock
Gamecock
6 months ago

Saving the country from Nigel Farage is the urgent, patriotic duty of this government

The parallels with Trump and the Democrats is shocking. And it hasn’t worked out for the Democrats. Is Farage Hitler yet?

Gamecock
Gamecock
6 months ago

Oh! Posts are displayed in reverse order.

Bloke in Cyprus
Bloke in Cyprus
6 months ago
Reply to  Gamecock

You can change that…

jgh
jgh
6 months ago

They’re displayed in the right order for me, and I haven’t fiddled with any settings.

Gamecock
Gamecock
6 months ago
Reply to  Gamecock

K. Now I’m seeing that a new post by me is shown first, but on return to thread later it is in chrono order. Dunno why they aren’t pasted on bottom at first.

Replies are immediately posted under post replied to.

Gamecock
Gamecock
6 months ago
Reply to  Gamecock

Jeeze. Same with replies. Posted immediately under post replied to, but later moved down into chrono order.

Gamecock
Gamecock
6 months ago

I lost my “I’m a real human” thingy!

Grikath
Grikath
6 months ago
Reply to  Gamecock

but we aren’t Human… We’re Ebil neoliberal fascist racists for not kowtowing to the opinions of la Toynbee-in-her-Bonnet.. 😉

Last edited 6 months ago by Grikath
bloke in spain
bloke in spain
6 months ago

I think she’s doing a very dangerous thing here. This is the start of an attempt to delegitimise an incoming Reform government. It’s not the first time we’ve been there. Much the same was attempted on the Thatcher government. But this time around I think it has the potential to be much bigger & more serious. The creation of a “Resist” movement to oppose both democratically & extra-democratically an elected government. To prevent it implementing its policies. You saw that with Thatcher & the Miner’s Strike etc.
Might not work out the same this time round. People are pissed off with both major parties & might resent their electoral choice being thwarted. So you could get a Resistance to the Resistance. Counter-demonstrations to demonstrations. Could get very ugly very quickly. You want to get a “extremist, racist, authoritarian takeover” that’s the way to get one.
Not saying I’d be entirely against the idea. I don’t believe there is a “democratic” solution to today’s problems. There’s no way you’ll get acceptance to the remedies will be required. So it may have to be something you have to go through to get to where you want to end up. Good luck!

Steve
Steve
6 months ago

Zugzwang, a German word meaning “compulsion to move”, is a concept in chess and other turn-based games where a player is forced to make a move when any legal move will worsen their position. Essentially, it’s a situation where a player would prefer to pass their turn, but the rules require them to make a move, even if it leads to a disadvantage.

See: Labour wrt to Reform. They are unable ignore Reform polling as the clear #1 party in the country, but everything they do to attack Reform will only give airtime to Nigel Farage and present him as the defacto leader of the opposition. Low blows are highly likely to enrage and energise the Reform base (see: Trump, legal problems and attempted assassination of)

A European style cordon sanitaire – vilifying Reform as “far right” ,- might have worked, for a little while, in the way sandbags will hold back water temporarily. But that’s impossible because Jenrick went to Epping and Kemi just repeats the latest headlines from the Daily Mail.

Today’s Cuntdown conundrum is Zugzwang.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
6 months ago
Reply to  Steve

It’s an amusing metaphor Steve. But how applicable? A “game” assumes a single player choosing moves. The left is multiple players both opposing an adversary. But they’re not united amongst themselves. Quite the opposite. Mostly they’re competing against each other with little love lost between the competitors.
A shrewd opponent would seek to widen & deepen those divisions. Play them off against each other

Grikath
Grikath
6 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

Capture the Flag with Friendly Fire PvP enabled in MMO game terms…

Those are … Fun, but Messy…..;)

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
6 months ago
Reply to  Grikath

It’s certainly fun how the “Establishment” have biased the game to right’s advantage. There undoubtedly is a far-right there. But all the far-right witch-hunting has meant the far-right keeps itself well below the visible horizon. So if you are of a far-right inclination you have no one to vote for but Reform. But in the other direction, they’ve largely left the extreme untroubled. So you have what could be Labour voters pealing off towards Corbyn/Sultana, the Greens, the Islamists & the extra-democratics like ER, JSO, the Alphabet Soup Mob etc. Satisfying one will lead to disenchanting another. Hence Starmer’s political direction of travel closely resembles some drunk driver spinning doughnuts in a car park

Steve
Steve
6 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

It’s a simile

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