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Are the Tories’ policies racist?

Are Reform’s policies racist?

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Addolff
Addolff
10 months ago

Yes, good, and about time

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
10 months ago

I can tell you, having spent time with the Conservatives some years ago, they are absolutely not a racist party. There’s at least 4 or 5 non-white Conservatives on Swindon Borough Council. If anything, slightly overweight. When I went to the sort of social things, there were a few Nepalese blokes who were quite serious (ex-Gurkha business thing in Wiltshire, more Nepalese restaurants than any other county I think).

I do believe there’s a racist contingent to Reform. Not very big, not at a senior level, though.

Bloke in Wales
Bloke in Wales
10 months ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

Can’t speak for anyone else, but I’m certainly getting more racist by the minute

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
10 months ago
Reply to  Bloke in Wales

It’s importing knuckle-draggers that bothers me, and in huge numbers so you get commoonities, and that leads to racism. Mass migration, easy asylum is an utter disaster.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
10 months ago
Reply to  Bloke in Wales

fi hefyd

dearieme
dearieme
10 months ago

Some people complain of racist fatigue. I suppose it’s much like the American “black fatigue”.

I came across this yesterday: does anyone know whether there’s any truth in it?

https://voxday.net/2025/10/05/all-that-fake-forgiveness/

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
10 months ago
Reply to  dearieme

Look at the desires and incentives of certain people. is it plausible?

I would say yes. And the exemption from FOIA is like klaxons going off. So you can’t find out things like say, how much money is being shovelled to families to get them to say the right thing (which it almost certainly is, because most people grieving are not going to say that).

JuliaM
JuliaM
10 months ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

It depends who is asking, and how they phrase the question, doesn’t it?

Bloke in Wales
Bloke in Wales
10 months ago
Reply to  dearieme
dearieme
dearieme
10 months ago
Reply to  Bloke in Wales

That’s a fine piece; thank you.

Ted S., Catskill Mtns, NY, USA
Ted S., Catskill Mtns, NY, USA
10 months ago
Reply to  dearieme

Maybe, but the blog’s unhinged antipathy toward Jordan Peterson (the link to the previous blog post) makes me wonder.

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
10 months ago

It is also, however, important to ask, based on its framing, whether it might also be a fascist policy. Does it seek to suggest that some people are from super-human groups and others are sub-human as a result? The answer is that, again, this is very obviously the case. So this is also a fascist policy, in my opinion, for the reasons I lay out here.
This is how far our official opposition in the UK has sunk.
The party of Churchill is now actively promoting fascism

Says the man who used a survey of Jews in the US to prove he wasn’t an anti-semite, rather than those in Israel actively under threat of Palestinian terrorism.

As a couple of denizens of these pages point out – the overuse of the terms ‘fascist’ and ‘racist’ against people who are clearly neither is subject to the law of diminishing returns.I doubt a single potential Reform voter (or indeed Conservative voter if they still exist) is likely to change their mind on the basis of this cretin.

Norman
Norman
10 months ago
Reply to  Van_Patten

It’s actually likely to harden their resolve, in an equal and opposite reaction.

Steve
Steve
10 months ago

This is how far our official opposition in the UK has sunk.

The party of Churchill is now actively promoting fascism

If Churchill was alive, Ritchie would be calling him a racist

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Van_Patten
Van_Patten
10 months ago
Reply to  Steve

I’m pretty sure he has called him a racist in the past. He sees potential salvation for his financial challenges in the Muslim block elevating him to the Lords, and they’re all over Churchill for his role in the India Famine and ‘saving the Jews’ – as arguably the greatest non- Muslim anti-semite extant in Britain today he is right on board.

dearieme
dearieme
10 months ago
Reply to  Van_Patten

The Bengal famine happened while a particularly incompetent Moslem cabinet was in charge of the province. It was notable that the other provincial governments declined to help. Likewise (as far as I know) the Rajahs of the Princely States. You might almost think that a war was disrupting food supplies.

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
10 months ago
Reply to  dearieme

Facts? We ain’t got no facts! We don’t need no facts! I don’t have to show you any stinking facts!

Martin Near The M25
Martin Near The M25
10 months ago
Reply to  Van_Patten

My God. Does he see himself as the great prophet Mustapha Leak now?

Deveril
Deveril
10 months ago
Reply to  Steve

Andrew Roberts, in Eminent Churchillians, said as much of Churchill – whilst putting in shout for historical context and, to be fair to him, clearly not giving much of a shit.

dearieme
dearieme
10 months ago
Reply to  Deveril

Enoch Powell, who’d served in India during The War, seems rather to have liked Indians. It’s apparently one reason why he was happy to import doctors and nurses from there for the NHS.

It was presumably the prospect of a large Afro-Caribbean population that worried him.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
10 months ago
Reply to  dearieme

Powell was not a ‘racist’ or even a ‘racialist’: he simply believed that some cultures were incompatible, and that numbers mattered, even when
there was some cultural compatibility.

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Theophrastus
Theophrastus
10 months ago

Define ‘racism’. It can’t mean simply ‘discrimination on the basis of race’, because doctors discriminate on the basis of race when diagnosing and trying to prevent disease (eg sickle cell anaemia, prostate cancer or schizophrenia in blacks, etc). And then….Is it ‘racist’ discrimination to avoid a group of young black men in sarf Lunnun, or is it simply prudent behaviour based on a justifiable evidence-based stereotype? Likewise, is it ‘racist’ discrimination for police to stop and search blacks disproportionately when blacks disproportionately commit violent crime?

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Norman
Norman
10 months ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

The thing about Stop And Search “racism” is that when the demographic of those available at the time, in that location, to Stop And Search was taken into account, the police were not in the slightest bit racist. Actually they were: proportionally they stopped and searched more whites. Home Sec Theresa May, on learning this, insisted the report be buried.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
10 months ago
Reply to  Norman

My son was a keen drummer and he used to drive to Uxbridge to park his car and take the tube to Brixton or wherever he was playing. He had really long dreadlocks and a beard and would generally be carrying his throne, snare drum and pedal and a few other bits and pieces. He always got stopped and searched at Brixton station, in and out. (That mid 2000s).

Steve
Steve
10 months ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

Racism is a survival trait.

Racism means you want your people to live.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
10 months ago
Reply to  Steve

Quite so. Strangers represent danger, in evolutionary terms.

Gamecock
Gamecock
10 months ago

The commie dick conflates fascism and Nazism. [Why isn’t it spelled Naziism?]

The ironing is that the commie dick is name calling so that he can replace the alleged ‘fascism’ with beastly horrid communism. He embraces all things fascist as a path to communism. I.e., he actually loves fascism. He finds it quite useful.

Steve
Steve
10 months ago
Reply to  Gamecock

The reason they hate ‘fascism’ is because it’s authoritarian, and these people are totalitarians. It’s been this way since fascism arose to protect European peoples from communism.

Steve
Steve
10 months ago

Here’s the excited audience greeting Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer Mel Stride. Many of them are showing their enthusiasm for Kemi Badenoch by dressing up as empty chairs

NB this is his *keynote speech*

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