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Well, I dunno really

Today’s Ireland is experiencing significant ethnic and racial diversity for the first time in its history, and the country’s new look has undoubtedly made some Irish feel uncomfortable.

There have been a couple of attempts – the Normans, the Plantation – and it’s not wholly certain that either of them worked out wholly all that well.

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john77
john77
10 months ago

You seem to have overlooked the Vikings who established a major colony around Dublin (and some lesser ones elsewhere) from the end of the eighth century to the beginning of the tenth and spent much of the time fighting the Irish and each other. A second invasion took place a dozen years after the first ended …

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
10 months ago
Reply to  john77

Wasn’t Dublin Europe’s biggest or 2nd biggest slave market during that period? I know it was Vikings running the trade but I’ll bet if you dig deep there was plenty of Irish involvement.

Steve
Steve
10 months ago

and the country’s new look has undoubtedly made some Irish feel uncomfortable

Yes, being stabbed and raped is uncomfortable.

JuliaM
JuliaM
10 months ago
Reply to  Steve

And finding out your countrymen (who fought the British tooth and nail) are encouraging it is even more uncomfortable

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
10 months ago
Reply to  Steve

Christmas decoration for our Irish friends…

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Southerner
Southerner
10 months ago

Apart from the survivors of the Spanish Armada (no not the Thudborg one, the Francis Drake one) from whom come the Black Irish, there is the ancient tale of how Ulf Hreda disembowelled Brodir the Viking. Over the centuries quite a lot of admixture has taken place.

dearieme
dearieme
10 months ago
Reply to  Southerner

from whom come the Black Irish” Good God, do people still repeat such implausible folk tales? You’ll be telling me you believe in The Exodus next, and Joshua’s conquest of Canaan.

John
John
10 months ago

Douglass’s positive experiences in Ireland lands well with African Americans today, many of whom are happy to see themselves as part of a multifarious Irish diaspora whose heterogeneity is there to be recognised and celebrated.

So diversity is their strength as well?

An article that left me scratching my head as to why it was considered worthy of being linked to. Maybe I missed something vital with all the inconsistencies, over-reaches and preening clouding my vision. Any objective assessment of the consequences of the lack of integration brought about by Ireland’s policies was conspicuous by its absence. The multicultural elephant in the room remained undisturbed.

Ottokring
Ottokring
10 months ago

I was last in Dublin about a dozen years ago. Everyone there was Polish.

Jimmers
Jimmers
10 months ago
Reply to  Ottokring

Not any more. Although half the people do seem off the heads on some sort of gear.

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Addolff
Addolff
10 months ago

After a commenter on another site called out all the ‘white English idiots who fly the flag of St George, a man born in Turkey who never came to Britain’, I decided to do a little digging:
St Patrick, born in Britain, but taken to Ireland as a boy by Irish slavers.
St. Andrew, born in the middle east, never went anywhere near Scotland (probably didn’t know it existed).
But flying the flag of St.George is wrong because……..

dearieme
dearieme
10 months ago

Before the Normans, indeed before the Romans, how about the Cruithne i.e. the Britons who lived in Ireland? They vanished. Genocided? Ethnically cleansed? Enslaved? Or just assimilated? Nobody knows. The idea that one arbitrary part of a small archipelago could stay racially pure is just Nazi nonsense.

In recent times Irish Nationalist Roman Catholic Nazis, obvs.

Grist
Grist
10 months ago

If the establishment believe diversity is so good, why are Plod recruiting blacks, Pakistanis and Indians because blacks, Pakistanis and Indians prefer to be arrested by blacks, Pakistanis and Indians?

Bob Smith
Bob Smith
10 months ago
Reply to  Grist

You’re expecting joined up thinking from TPTB?

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
10 months ago
Reply to  Bob Smith

Nowadays I don’t even expect thinking.

Interested
Interested
10 months ago
Reply to  Grist

If the establishment believe diversity is so good,

The establishment does not believe diversity is good for you, it believes it is good for it, specifically its wider policy of divide and rule, with an added dash of ‘people like arresting and beating members of other groups more than they like doing it to their own’.

They are ultimately going to have the finding outest time in the history of fucking aroundism, I fear, but I don’t believe they think they have many other options at this late stage in the game.

That’s why Plod are ‘recruiting blacks, Pakistanis and Indians’.

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