An MP has withdrawn from Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana’s political party over “persistent infighting” and “veiled prejudice” against Muslim men.
They were right there, 800k members, sweeping up the whole of the left. Then Corby started being Corby and that’s the end of that then.
You never know, perhaps Jezza is really an undercover Tory? As I’m convinced was true of Tony Benn. Be wild enough to gain leftie support, be incompetent enough to make sure the revolution never happens….
I was hoping they’d last a little while. Zarah’s name is just so open to punning and manipulation. Bit like Corbyn himself…
The Crescent and the Rainbow are not a good fit…
Islam is like a common cold. Labour, the Tories, Liberals and Greens are AIDS.
It’s easy to fight off a common cold.
Unless you have AIDS
I think if Corbyn was really Verbal Kint, he’d have revealed himself as Keyser Soze by now. Or at least, resigned and disappeared.
If he was shaven, in a good suit, dining with Lord Ashcroft, would anyone in Belize recognise him?
What’s interesting for me is that it shows that for the Leftbwong part of that party, Muslim Men are below women and Big trans on the identity politics pole. When the Muslim
Block has 400 MPs both groups are in for a very rude awakening! Subjugation for the radical feminists, death for the LGBT child molesters. And I’ll be delighted. You preach and ally yourself with evil, it will come back to haunt you!!
You won’t be delighted, because you’ll be subjugated as a non-muslim.
As I’m convinced was true of Tony Benn. Be wild enough to gain leftie support, be incompetent enough to make sure the revolution never happens….
No Tim. I had it on the good authority of his cousin, years ago. He is exactly what it says on the tin. Sea-yew-en-tea.
The problem with the likes of Benn, Corbyn, Cameron, Boris, Osborne is that they’re affluent kids who never wanted for anything. And they weren’t born to people who made it from being moderately well off to wealthy, but established wealth. Which means they have no fucking clue how most people live.
Not sure that’s true of Corbyn. Mother was a teacher and father an electrical engineer. So possibly quite comfortable but not affluent, like the others you mention.
Fair. What happened there?
I know kids of electrical engineers and they generally seem pretty normal.
Both parents were crazed leftists – though not above sending Jezza to a prep school…
I seem to recall that Starmers dad was a toolmaker or somesuch…..
Like The Clash sang
“Daddy was a toolmaker”
or was it “bank robber”
in fact Joe Strummer’s daddy was a diplomat
That says something, just not sure what
According to the cuz he’s as tight as a duck’s, treats people employed by him abysmally & has never been known to give anything away.
More grist to my mill that anyone who bleats on in public about ‘fairness’, ‘rights’ and ‘social justice’ etc and presents themselves as a moral superior will in fact be a complete cunt in their actual life.
Many such cases!
To be fair, I can admire a man for not being easily parted from it.
She bought a deliveroo salad this morning, which must be stored in the fridge, and it’s just sitting in the larder, forgotten about, she often does that, it triggers my innate tightness, hence my post admiring the tightness of others, even if coming from a different political loyalty.
I grew up on a council estate. I remember when we started getting old enough to know about politics (what a sad fucking day that was) and being totally confused why the teachers all seemed to think the sun shone out of Benn, and other loony left MPs, nether regions.
If it was up to Tony Benn, I might have ended up working in a coal mine and still be living in a council estate. It was the Voldemort of British politics, Mrs Thatcher, who gave working class boys an opportunity to get on, make a little bit of money, and end up better off than our parents. The socialists did fuck all for us. As Orwell described, and we grokked instinctively, most lefties are weird creeps with stranger danger written all over them.
Remember… teachers are paid by the state. They want a bigger state, as they get more money. Same with people in local authorities. I worked with loads of them. Very few are weird, barking mad Guardian types. They just want more money. They might make appeals on moral or other grounds (the railway people now talk endlessly about eco) but they want a better life.
The left/right line of workers is almost entirely along the lines of public/private sector now. And I include all those cartels like doctors in the public sector as they want the state protecting them from competition. It used to be more about class, but industries ditched unions in the 1970s.
This was always the thing with Leave. It wasn’t a rich thing or a poor thing. It was a non-blob thing. I know highly skilled software people who voted leave. And quite poor guys who also did. The loudest remain voices I knew were in the most B Ark bits of the state. Like someone at the local museum, and someone at the BBC. But that said, I know a bloke who voted leave who works for the parks. Because ultimately, that’s one of those bits of the state that has universal support, isn’t it? Even a hard libertarian like me thinks town parks are a good thing. You can’t really do them without the government.
I can get the bit about municipal parksmen voting leave. The gardens were often gifted to the local corporation by philanthropists, or the later ones created by the councils themselves. Deffo not created by centralised political processes, whether that is to Westminster or Brussels.
Jimmy Saville was pals with Tories and was knighted under the Tories.
“most lefties are weird creeps with stranger danger written all over them.”
LOL
I’d thought the idea was that Corbyn would act as a fig leaf for a sectarian Islamic party?
I thought that was the whole purpose of Ms Sultana (Muslims love pushing their women into infidel politics to gain power for the tribe)
But nb we live in a deeply dysfunctional society that’s not working very well for anyone. It would be weird if the general malaise wasn’t felt also by less patient Muslims, who naturally tend to get upset when their lefty allies try to smuggle drag queens and dildos into their children’s schools. After the success of independent Muslim Bigot candidates in 2024, they’re probably thinking they no longer need Grampa Death or the pretence of not wanting to throw gays off a tall building in Birmingham.
Thing is Steve, the female ‘Muslim’ MPs are often nothing if the sort.
They simply do not believe in it and moreover have often married infidels.
The Islamic part is as you say a fig leaf. It is there to appeal to their demography, while maintaining their hardline Marxist beliefs.
The MP fir Tooting is another. Don’t know enough about the present Home Sec though.
I also left school quite bitter and disillusioned because every teacher I met was some sort of Trot ( or worse Maoist ). This was 1980s Tooting, as if Wolfie Smith had succeeded.
I was at grammar school in the late 50s / mid 60s and even at the end of my 6th-form years never had the faintest inkling of the political views of my teachers. I don’t remember a single one of them ever expressing a personal opinion on politics. Shame that the present shower of teaching “professionals” can’t behave in the same way!
I’d have guessed that “veiled prejudice” was a commoner problem for Moslem women.
Anyway what the fellow probably meant was that any policy that didn’t hand control of the party to Moslem men was so unfair! So prejudiced! So discriminatory!
Socialism seems to attract people with the sort of tribal mentality that thrives on the narcissism of small differences.
Yeah. It also attracts those most dangerous of all people, those who believe it is their mission in life to “do good”, which justifies anything. Which is why we find priests who were described as “saintly Godly men” inserted up the arses of prepubescent choirboys..
No, you get homo priests because there are homo seminaries, and homos go where the boys are.
It’s why you find teachers, scout masters, etc. similarly bumming boys. “Doing good” doesn’t inspire this, being a creepy bastard does.
There’s no system of belief/nonbelief or organising principle that magically excludes the percentage of Uncle Ernies who will always be fiddling about until somebody cares enough to hang them.
It isn’t that do-gooders are prone to be kiddy-fiddlers. Rather that kiddy-fiddlers are attracted to places run by do-gooders were they can get access to children – eg churches, schools, youth clubs, choirs…etc.
The vast majority of those who believe it is their mission in life to “do good” do not believe this justifies anything. That said, they can be tiresome. Spare me the fools collecting donations for the local food bank, or of clothes for refugees or organising a concert for Palestine!
The cult of Niceianity is itself a modern heresy, the basic bitch pumpkin spice latte exegesis of spiritual eunuchs.
There are ten commandments and not one of them instructs us to “do good”. They’re all concerned with upholding your natural duties and refraining from the millions of ways we can do bad. INRI did not willingly take up the cross, suffer and die so people would collect money for the RNLI. The incarnation of God wasn’t a strategem to benefit WASPI women, Just Stop Oil, or the career of Marcus Rashford.
Christ himself had words to say about throwing the children’s bread to the dogs, those who flaunt their supposed virtue, and the fate of people who prey on little children who believe in him. Jesus wasn’t “nice” and being “nice” isn’t a Christian virtue. He’s not a tame lion at all.
Steve you are a woman who has spoken of an attraction to dangerous violent evil men. You are a warped and depraved person.
And by the way, Thatcher destroyed manufacturing jobs and prospects in huge swathes of the UK with her devastation of economies in Central Scotland, South Wales, and the North of England.
Thatcher destroyed manufacturing jobs and prospects in huge swathes of the UK
And your poor anus. 🙁
People say this and then you say “OK, what laws did Mrs Thatch pass to destroy those jobs?” *crickets*
The hard numbers are that manufacturing jobs fell, but manufacturing output rose. Which has nothing to do with Fatcher and everything to do with robots, machines, processes. Steel production went from 14 man hours per ton in the late 1970s to 4 man hours per ton in the late 80s.
And you know, this advert was 1979, same year that she got into Downing Street: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEVTorBHhOo. Shame about the corrosion problem on the Strada but this was where the industry was going.
Manufacturing jobs are more and more about watching the machines, improving the machines, so the already ridiculously high quality of a Honda Civic is made even better.
Over two million manufacturing jobs were lost under Thatcher.
She carried out anti-trade union laws, privatisation, and cuts in subsidies.
These had massive negatives for manufacturing in the UK.
Yarp I don’t think deindustrialisation was a good thing for our society. Normal people don’t care about the line on the graph going up, they care about Dad being an unemployed alcoholic. But it was, unfortunately, a necessary thing because a combination of crap management and absolutely taking the piss unions had already retarded most of our industries to the point the salvage was barely worth the scrap and it was bankrupting the state.
We were about to be drenched in the cold tidal swells of Globalisation 1.0 whether we liked it or not. But years of poor decisions, failure to modernise or invest in new plant, or even listen to customers in some cases, plus the toxic state of UK labour relations led us to being the joke of Western Europe. Britain had a very strong hand in global mass manufacturing, circa 1945. We steadily pissed away our advantages, often via nationalisation but sometimes through astonishingly crazy acts of self-harm such as giving Stalin the world’s best jet engine, and then, having learned nothing, trying to teach Mao’s China how to build advanced jet engines some years later.
But there’s no inherent Ricardian advantage, afaik, making the Japs or the Frogs or the Krauts inherently more suited to owning global manufacturing concerns and, say, building cars. They just played the game better than Brit firms did. Until the recent industrial Gottendammerung still playing out in German industry over their severance from cheap Russian fuel, that was a crazy act of self harm too.
“But there’s no inherent Ricardian advantage, afaik, making the Japs or the Frogs or the Krauts inherently more suited to owning global manufacturing concerns and, say, building cars.”
Having worked for Honda, the big thing I found there was the forward-looking, positive, continuous improvement culture. I’ve never worked for any company so big that moved so fast with so little in the way of politics or bureaucracy. And it was a lot about giving teams power. Someone has a better way to do something, the team just agrees and does it. No escalating up 5 levels of management for approval. There’s no sense of “clerical” “management” or “line workers” we’re all there to build cars. If you joined as a programmer, you might have that as your job title, but if the line is short, maybe you’d go help fit seats (they trained people for this). Your primary purpose was to get cars made.
I don’t think British Leyland or the US car companies ever had this sort of culture.
Steve: Christ had two additional commandments – which, IIRC, he implied underpinned the 10 Commandments – [1] To love God with all your heart, soul, and mind, and [2] To love your neighbour as yourself.
ASISI, [2] is the source of what you call “nicianity”. ‘Loving your neighbour as yourself’ is not so much an injunction to self-sacrifice as an injunction to be generally altruistic in a self-sacrificial way. Christ’s teachings (such as they have come to us) can be divided into the necessary minimum (for salvation) and counsels for perfection (for saints and heroes). ASISI, the weaker interpretation of [2] is the necessary minimum.
So, yes, love your neighbours as yourselves, but don’t be a virtue-signalling Mrs Jellby (Bleak House) who cares more about her African mission than her own neglected children….Everywhere, today, there are many Mrs Jellbys – supporting “good causes” (often socially corrosive), while ignoring but antagonising their immediate neighbours by displaying ‘Refugees welcome here’ posters*…
* Here’s one from the NHS:
One can’t help but notice that [1] To love God with all your heart, soul, and mind would preclude loving any other one or thing. Since there would be no love left over.
Weird fucking religion.
That’s without wondering why a deity would crave love. Divine shirtlifter?
All deities desire love. That is the whole point .
Worshipping them is to show our love ( or fear, in some cases ) for them.
Those that love God above all else become nuns, monks and priests.
Of course not everyone can love only God, because very soon there won’t be anyone left to do the worshipping.
God is love, BiS. I love you ❤️, will you fetch a bottle of Lambrini and stick the Pet Shop Boys on the jukebox?
It is the cult of the those who are sexually attracted to evil who are most dangerous
Anyone who is motivated to do or support evil due to sexual desires is capable of extreme evil.
1. Rapists.
2. Child abusers.
3. People who are sexually attracted to evil men.
The third type are the most dangerous as they are often driven by sexual desire to ideologically support evil men.
They support bullies, wife beaters, child abusers, gangsters, rapists, And will often give totally contradictory reasons to justify their support evil because they are emotionally sexually motivated to support evil. They dont care about logic.
The type of sicko who writes love letters to rapists and serial killers.
And then claims to be a Christian but explains Jesus was not nice.
Well F OFF to any religion which does not support niceness.
The reason some Priests abuse, is out of the specific Priests perverted sexual attraction to doing child abuse. It is not because they think they are doing good.
“basic bitch pumpkin spice latte exegesis of spiritual eunuchs.”
LMAO, LMFAO even
“Spare me the fools collecting donations for the local food bank, or of clothes for refugees or organising a concert for Palestine!”
Finger in the air, I reckon that 90+% of charities are a bonfire of money for various reasons. Political causes, stupid crap, the ones where the problem has already been solved, the ones that are little more than a load of women drinking coffee all day, the ones that are replete with corruption (hiring husband’s company for work, hiring the kids as employees), government sockpuppets, corporate PR, tiny charities where most of the donations get burned on costs.
I’ve worked in charities, done volunteering for charities, and I think the greed pig capitalists generally do more for the world.
No. The most dangerous people are the people who deliberately decide to be evil or who decide there is no such thing as good and evil.
Hitler was a fan of Nietzche. The beyond good and evil philosophy. He did not support morality. He knew he was evil.
In my view the worst most dangerous evil people are those that are sexually attracted motivated to do or support evil.
Be that
1. Rapists.
2. Child abusers.
3. People who are sexually attracted to evil men. Such as sick people who fancy bullies, serial killers, rapists and wife beaters.
These people ate sexually motivated to support evil. That makes them instinctively evil.
And the third type I mention are possibly the worst. The type who smuggly boast of their perverted attraction to evil men. Who write love letters to serial killers and then claim to be doing Jesus’s work.
Hmm Steve.
Yes, interesting. Small differences often fracture the sense of belonging in groups bound together by only ideological or religious doctrines. As the sense of belonging fractures, insecure individuals seem to feel their identity is threatened, so they confront and ostracise the deviants and splitters. In tribes and families – which are bound together more by kinship than by ideological/religious doctrines – the dynamic of the narcissism of small differences seems to derive more from a desire to preserve separateness than from a desire to preserve unity.
Have they tried not raping children? That would make them more popular.
One minute you say people should not be nice then you claim you are moral. Like all warped depraved people who fancy bad boys, you show a twisted inconsistent morality.
I am for niceness and against rape, bullying, and domeetic abuse.
I have never claimed to be moral, what are you talking about?
I’m sorry you were raped, have you tried Anusol?
Only evil warped depraved people are sexually attracted to evil men.
You are NOT the voice of reason.
You have a perverted sexual attraction to supporting evil.
Jesus’s never ever said that you should fancy evil men.
I am an athiest. But what i know about Jesus is that his values are the total opposite of your perverted bigoted bullying values.
I am suspecting this person of “doing good”.
Nietzche supported a beyond good and evil framework.
Oh and guess who supported Nietzche?
Yes, you guessed it. It was Hitler.
It is not people who claim to be good who are the worst.
It is those who have a sexual instinct to do or support evil, who are most dangerous.
Oh and guess who supported Nietzche?
Yes, you guessed it. It was Hitler.
This is my shocked face
Historically Taunton IS part of Minehead!
Then beware…
That’s Heinrich Himmler to the life!
You are Real Man and I claim my £5.
The confused prose and worrying attraction to Steve is a dead giveaway. Still Bummed Human seems a more appropriate moniker. Although maybe not ‘Human’….
I am not attracted to Steve. I have never met the nasty person. She is a pretending to be a man for some odd reason. She has boasted of a support of bullies . She is a bad person.
It’s their culture don’cha know?
Good to see their soclialist utopia rapidly following the path of all such. Next they will be building a wall around the party to stop other members bailing out.
Or maybe an exit tax.