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Some sex workers’ groups and campaigners have advocated a return to certified brothels as a solution to the difficulties they now face.
Prostitutes have had to work in parks and other potentially dangerous places as a result of a 2016 law intended to improve their lot.

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Western Bloke
Western Bloke
5 months ago

Brothels don’t exist much now. The brothel was a marketplace. Multiple girls in one house, which would give a punter a choice of women. That’s on the internet now. Which means the transaction costs (having to pay for a room in the brothel) are massively reduced.

It’s also why all that huge success of the Swedish model is bollocks. “Oh, there’s less girls on the streets now”. Yeah, they’ve all got cellphones and advertise on the net. Who wants to stand in the freezing cold instead of doing that?

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
5 months ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

Of course they do. There used to be one in Tufnell Park, just down the road from where I lived. May still be running.
Problem with internet whores is the client doesn’t know what he’s actually getting until he meets her. And tarts are notorious for creative advertising. With a “house” the women are working for the house. So they can rely on the reputation of the house.
The Swedish model is indeed bollocks. There’s Whatsapp groups where placements are advertised to the women. Plenty of ads on them for Sweden. It’s part of the N. European “tour” circuit. Just means Sweden’s expensive. If you wanted a list of “houses” in France, I could ask around & get a list of them. I know at least 3 girls working their now. Lille’s got several. Reportedly, Brussels’ (the EU’s) demand is supplied out of Lille.
Streetgirls is a whole other thing. You’d be really scraping the barrel. These days, usually implies no money/no papers/no alternative. Bois de Boulogne/Paris is bit different because it’s traditional

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
5 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

An observation that I have is that driving around, there’s far fewer dodgy looking massage parlours than there used to be.

Richard West
Richard West
5 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

Donald Trump was named in the Epstein Files. So there are allegations that Trump was close to Epstein.
What are the allegations about Trump and Epstein?

Norman
Norman
5 months ago
Reply to  Richard West

If you can’t fuck off, son, at least stay on topic.

Now then. Give us your whorehouse experiences. Go on.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
5 months ago
Reply to  Norman

I’d imagine he receives.

Michael van der Riet
Michael van der Riet
5 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

A bender not a sender.

jgh
jgh
5 months ago
Reply to  Richard West

Donald Trump was named in the Epstein Files

Yeah probably something like “That bastard Trump told me to Fuck Off”.

Agammamon
Agammamon
5 months ago
Reply to  Richard West

There are no allegations.

That is why you have to ask here what the allegations are – because there aren’t any.

Diogenes
Diogenes
5 months ago
Reply to  Richard West

What did you used to say to the Jewish boys at your school?

Ottokring
Ottokring
5 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

Bit confused there for a while.
I thought you were referring to the classic
“Swedish model, 3rd floor, Ring and wait.”

Norman
Norman
5 months ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

Oh, I dunno. There’s one at the end of my road that’s been there for well over a quarter of a century. The building’s all black and has a sign hanging above the door which reads “Lanacome Male Grooming”. I bet BiS knows it.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
5 months ago
Reply to  Norman

Is that really still going. It used to pretend to be Oriental massage. There’s a woman runs a flat off of Hornsey High Street.

Norman
Norman
5 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

It’s still going. I’ve never seen the inside of it, mind. Dunno about Hornsey High St; not my manor.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
5 months ago
Reply to  Norman

Yes it is. You’re in what was the London Boro of Hornsey That building opposite the clocktower is Hornsey Town Hall. The school on Crouch End Hill used to be Hornsey College of Art.
Know your local history. The Crouch End fishing fleet when it was a famous port.
https://secalis.co.uk/Ocend/Pages/Contents.html

Norman
Norman
5 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

I know my local history all right. I’ve been in the Town Hall (fabulous interior, now no doubt completely fucked up). I know someone who attended the Hornsey School of Art, knew the building when it was still a Trades Union residential training centre, and after it was converted to a school my daughter went to it. I simply don’t walk around Hornsey High St. much because I have little need to go there.

Gamecock
Gamecock
5 months ago

“The solution to bad government is more government.”

dearieme
dearieme
5 months ago

I’m from the government. I’m here to help.

excavator man
excavator man
5 months ago

I’m in favour of licensed brothels because of a number of reasons. First of all, protection for the women, including proper healthcare. Secondly, the bitches will pay tax and NI like the rest of us.

I have in the past argued for proper training, CPD etc, and membership of a trade union or a professional body (it is the oldest profession, after all). The Royal College of Whores. The Chartered Institution of Prostitution – or the trade union Fuck Me!

After all, the biggest bunch of whores in the country operate out of one or two Houses in Westminster, don’t they?

Bloke in Callao
Bloke in Callao
5 months ago
Reply to  excavator man

With a government oversight body: OFBONK.

BlokeInBrum
BlokeInBrum
5 months ago
Reply to  excavator man

Maybe they should go for a Royal Charter, I’m pretty sure the King can lean on his brother for advice and expertise.

jgh
jgh
5 months ago
Reply to  excavator man

Nah, they’ll be nationalised as part of the National Nookie Service. Some functionary will allocate you Hattie Jacques with a stopwatch instead of the private market supplying you with Barbara Windsor.

Norman
Norman
5 months ago
Reply to  jgh

Or, as it happens, Dolly. Prime fit in her day.

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Richard West
Richard West
5 months ago

Did you hear about dyslexic pimp.
He bought a warehouse.
I think Trump, Farage, and Richard Tice should go to the warehouse.
Trump allegedly has connections with Stormy Daniels.

Norman
Norman
5 months ago
Reply to  Richard West

You allegedly have connections with the human race.

BlokeInBrum
BlokeInBrum
5 months ago
Reply to  Norman

May not actually – may be a slightly retarded bot.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
5 months ago
Reply to  Norman

Don’t care who he is. As long as he/she/it continues to work diligently to get a Reform government elected it can be black as far as I’m concerned

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
5 months ago
Reply to  Norman

Incidentally, did you see the Guardian pushing the Farage/ anti-Semitism trope put Reform another 1% up in the polls? Thanx Graun!

Norman
Norman
5 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

They never, ever learn. Next it’ll be the Clacton Deplorables.

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
5 months ago
Reply to  Richard West

Is Trump an anti – Semite now?

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
5 months ago
Reply to  Richard West

I think Trump, Farage, and Richard Tice should go to the warehouse.
The Houndsditch closed years ago, didn’t it?

Agammamon
Agammamon
5 months ago
Reply to  Richard West

Clinton allegedly got a blowjob.

Michael van der Riet
Michael van der Riet
5 months ago

For a while I was involved in a battered women rescue thing that also did drug counseling. It was a bit of a joke as some of the battered women would smuggle their exes into the safe house at night. Before I learned, I dated a girl who’d worked as a waitress, so she said, in a strip club.Through her I met the madam who let me talk to the girls. That was also a joke, as the girls bought their drugs from the club. Got them coming and going, so to speak. But a brothel has very strict standards for the girls, for their own safety as well as that of the patrons. They don’t want unprofessional girls who spread it around. I don’t think that most independent operators are even aware that some seemingly harmless behaviors are very dangerous.

johnd
johnd
5 months ago

There used to be a brothel in my nearest town Dunedin. It had a large sign advertising itself as a “House of Pleasure”
It closed when Covid shut everything so I have no idea what the punters will be doing now.

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