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The UK welfare system is not helping enough people into work and has significantly rising costs, and no one should think the government is backing away from reforming it, the work and pensions secretary has said.

Pat McFadden made the comments as the government published its new child poverty strategy on Friday.

He said the aim of the strategy was to improve young lives for the long term and that those lifted out of hardship are likely to have improved prospects for employment in the future.

“This is about more than the distribution of money. It’s an investment in the future of the children who are affected by poverty,” he said.

Throwing bennies at the idle poor is investment now. The word’s getting close to having no useful meaning, no?

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rupert
rupert
10 months ago

We need the idle poor to breed more so we increase the supply of Labour voters?

Grist
Grist
10 months ago

Get them used ot thinking of what used to be called the “Labour Party” but is now the Benefits Party, before they are old enough to realise that the Benefits Party went to court to get legal opinion that the rights of any foreigner who sets foot on British soil, even illegally, has more rights than you…

john77
john77
10 months ago

It used to be “throwing pennies”

Ted S., Catskill Mtns, NY, USA
Ted S., Catskill Mtns, NY, USA
10 months ago
Reply to  john77

How about spending pennies on the welfare recipients?

Or perhaps the politicians in this case.

dearieme
dearieme
10 months ago

“Throwing bennies at the idle poor is investment now.”

Wasn’t it Brown G. who started talking about all expenditure, however extravagant, as “investment”?

Bloke in Germany in The Yookay
Bloke in Germany in The Yookay
10 months ago

Is one of those political irregular nouns/verbs/etc.

Money the honourable gentleman wants to spend is investment.

Money the honourable gentleman wants to stop spending is subsidy.

Gamecock
Gamecock
10 months ago

government published its new child poverty strategy on Friday

Stupid oxymoron. Every child everywhere OWNS NOTHING.

This stupid construct is to get people to believe “It’s for the children” and “If you are against this, you hate children.”

Bathroom Moose
Bathroom Moose
10 months ago
Reply to  Gamecock

Everyone knows what he means.

Bathroom Moose
Bathroom Moose
10 months ago
Reply to  Bathroom Moose

Maybe it will like this picture better

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Gamecock
Gamecock
10 months ago
Reply to  Bathroom Moose

Kids have no capacity to be rich or poor. It’s a trick to distract from PARENTS’ RESPONSIBILITY.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
10 months ago

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Gamecock
Gamecock
10 months ago

The UK welfare system is not helping enough people into work

Wut? Giving free stuff to people isn’t helping ENOUGH into work?!?!

How could it help anyone ‘into work’ (whatever that means)? No one could be that stupid.

Solution:

has significantly rising costs

Give even more away!

and no one should think the government is backing away from reforming it

“And we aren’t going to stop giving stuff away. It’s what we do.”

In government speak, ‘reform’ means give even more away, and hire more government employees to do it. What the poor really need is more government.

Bathroom Moose
Bathroom Moose
10 months ago
Reply to  Gamecock

>How could it help anyone ‘into work’
Bus passes, interview coaching, courses, literally having the jobcenter people match unemployed people with jobs and force them to go.

Yes this stuff costs us money, but paying someone to not work costs us MORE money.

You’re thinking purely of the bank transactions part of the benefits system, but it’s a huge bureaucracy filled with civil servants that could be helping but (allegedly) aren’t.

Gamecock
Gamecock
10 months ago
Reply to  Bathroom Moose

In American English, the bank transactions part of the benefits system IS the ‘welfare.’ Lumping it all together and naming it the ‘welfare system’ is deceit.

Bathroom Moose
Bathroom Moose
10 months ago

>Throwing bennies at the idle poor is investment now
Perhaps I’m being overly charitable, but I got the impression that “reforming it” entailed throwing less bennies at the idle poor, removing circumstances where it’s rational to be idle, turning idle-bennies into less fungible things* so as to incentivise getting a job to get actual money you can do what you want with, that kind of thing.

*like courses, food vouchers, consultation with the job-finding experts in the jobcenter, paying your rent directly to your landlord. A food hygiene certificate that will help you get a job, but you can’t drink or smoke it. A shuttle bus to the Amazon warehouse that will get you to work, but won’t take you to the beach.

jgh
jgh
10 months ago
Reply to  Bathroom Moose

job-finding experts in the jobcenter

The what now?

Richard West
Richard West
9 months ago

The idle poor my arse.
The people on sick are people with serious mental health problems who think they are possessed by the Devil ot have no arms and legs.
I would rather they got money than some greedy bully who gets chance after chance for easy jobs.
Give the mentally ill and disabled easy jobs not hatred.

Last edited 9 months ago by Richard West
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