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Why do we need a politics of care? This is why we do:

More than one in 20 people are homeless in parts of London, according to research published by the charity Shelter on Thursday after ministers set out a new strategy to stop people losing their homes.

Some 382,618 people are estimated to have nowhere permanent to live across England, an annual increase of 8 per cent, according to the charity’s analysis of government data.

Both of these are staggering statistics, and the sort of data that drives me to believe a better world is possible.

What The Sage misses is that of those 382,618 people counted there not one of them is sleeping outside. Rough sleepers are counted separately, you see?

So what this actually is is the number of people the welfare state – that politics of care – is saving from sleeping in the street.

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Gamecock
Gamecock
9 months ago

Ban vagrancy.

Some 382,618 people are estimated

Have you ever been estimated?

People who use false precision fallacies should be recognized as liars.

Tractor Gent
Tractor Gent
9 months ago
Reply to  Gamecock

And an ‘accountant’ didn’t spot that? Perhaps he actually believes false precision lends support to his argument.

M
M
9 months ago
Reply to  Tractor Gent

Central planning requires precision. So precision is supplied, regardless of whether it’s warranted.
Always remember his aim, and realize you cannot hate enough.

Steve
Steve
9 months ago

I can’t imagine feeling sympathy for “the homeless” in 2025. Can’t even remember the last time I saw a street beggar who wasn’t a Romanian gypsy driven to “work” in a Mercedes by their criminal gangmasters.

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Norman
Norman
9 months ago

There’s been a fat Romanian bird sellingThe Big Issue outside Crouch End Waitrose for at least 20 years. She’s worn “Baby On Board” badges at least three times. No sign of a sprog.

There’s also a silly “trans” cunt who dosses about dressed like a slag in a nightclub. In winter. When all the real women are wearing proper winter clothes, even the daft girls.

Steve
Steve
9 months ago
Reply to  Norman

Beggars should simply be arrested. We’d solve the begging problem within a week.
Why do we tolerate this?

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
9 months ago
Reply to  Steve

C17th & C18th had the right idea. Branding them

Steve
Steve
9 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

It’s like Rudy Giuliani’s broken windows theory. Allow people to beg on the streets, and before long the streets will be dangerous, filthy places full of graffiti, garbage and mentally ill drug addicts.

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Charles
Charles
9 months ago
Reply to  Steve

What is the problem with begging?

dearieme
dearieme
9 months ago

Shelter: I wouldn’t believe a word they say.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
9 months ago
Reply to  dearieme

With good reason as well. I can remember it back in the late ’60s in Notting Hill. Seemed to favour a certain sort of public schoolboy & deeply political. That was the era of squats & the very best ones… There was some guy on Haverstock Hill moneterised his one for half a million at the end of the 90’s.

jgh
jgh
9 months ago

I had “nowhere permanent to live” for the three years I was at university. So what?

Boddicker
Boddicker
9 months ago

The last time I was in Ely I saw a homeless guy sleeping in a tent near the cathedral. I guess his invitation to stay in the spare room of professor care was lost in the post

Martin Near The M25
Martin Near The M25
9 months ago
Reply to  Boddicker

In his mad budget rant he had the gall to claim that there shouldn’t be empty bedrooms. By which I think he meant the state stealing any houses bigger than his.

John
John
9 months ago

Pretty much the first tenet of socialism is that expropriation only starts with houses bigger than theirs, salaries higher than theirs, net wealth greater than theirs etc etc etc.

Mohave Greenie
Mohave Greenie
9 months ago

The problem is that most of the rough sleepers need a mental hospital or inpatient care at a rehab clinic. They won’t go willingly. The potato will be wittering about “hooman wrights”.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
9 months ago

Rough sleepers are counted separately, you see?
But which are the rough sleepers? Those sad souls you see around the West End huddled in blankets with their plastic cups? They meet up in a pub in Green Lanes Harringay* to divvy up the take. Then drive home.
*For convenience, opposite Turnpike Line station on the ‘Dilly Line. I’d guess, then, because it was the furthest into London you could drive wasn’t all yellow lined.

MJW
MJW
9 months ago

People want to live in London, London is very expensive, it’s not fair that some people who want to live in London can’t afford to live in London, we need a politics of care to subsidise these people.

I want a Shelby AC Cobra, I cannot afford a Shelby AC Cobra, it’s not fair that I want this and cannot afford it, we need a politics of care to subsidise my Shelby AC Cobra.

dcardno
dcardno
9 months ago
Reply to  MJW

we need a politics of care to subsidise provide my Shelby AC Cobra.

FTFY

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
9 months ago

Why can’t people see this? If you have anything that attracts public sympathy, it will be taken over – usually by the educated middle-classes – and exploited for their benefit.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
9 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

Is Spud actually sympathetic to the plight of the homeless? Of course he isn’t. He sees it as something he can personally moneterise by writing about it. Exactly the same as the Guardian does. And the politicians who bleat about it.

Gamecock
Gamecock
9 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

Argumentum ad misericordiam.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
9 months ago
Reply to  Gamecock

Tut, tut, Mr Gamecock. As I said in a recent post, people using Latin bon mots get the Cvnt Award. It’s mostly an intentional demonstration of supposed “superior” education. Few people learn Latin now, so it goes straight past them & has the opposite effect. Intentionally incomprehensible.
And yes. I do read Latin.
Incidentally, did you know a misericorde was a thin dagger was slipped through the gap in the armour of a fallen, mortally wounded knight to end his suffering. And if you believe that, you’ll believe anything.

Gamecock
Gamecock
9 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

You are so easy to troll!

Baron Jackfield
Baron Jackfield
9 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

I’m so old that Latin was still a living language when I was at school… Or so it seemed.

Charles
Charles
9 months ago

I think it’s best described as undead.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
9 months ago

I usually ask “Why is that my problem?” I’ve never had a good answer that didn’t impose a moral code on me which I didn’t sign up for.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
9 months ago
Reply to  rhoda klapp

The answer is; they want you to pay for it, not them.

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
9 months ago

What I know the right (including some of Labour) will say in response is twofold. First, they will suggest this is down to personal irresponsibility, and second, they will blame migrants. Neither is remotely true.

Yes – because of course migrants don’t take up any housing and are happy to be dispersed around the country rather than congregating in London where their countrymen tend to be (now constituting a majority of the population in London) – I think the personal responsibility can be overdone actually but to say it isn’t a factor in some cases is also wrong.

This is the result of:

Excessive rents
Please put in Rent controls. They have worked so well elsewhere in the country. Again no mention of migration.

Interest rates that have been deliberately pitched far too high
So the way to reduce demand for something is to make it cheaper? Is this the Quantum economics showing again
Underfunding of all forms of social housing
Yes – no doubt funded by the revenue from your ‘Taxing Wealth report which is so great you have committed to spending it 27 times over in Year one. Must be great to be such an economic guru.

The withdrawal of support for many mental health services
So the answer is to bring back asylums?
The causal destruction of local authorities by the Tories, about which Labour is doing nothing
Is this supposed to be casual? I think you’ll find its Labour proposing super councils along the lines of the late John Prescott
Too little support for those with autism and ADHD
I guess the state has to provide you with a sufficiently grand residence given your ‘value’ to society
Antisocial neoliberal thinking that deliberately generates loneliness, isolation and indifference with its concentration solely on the individual
You could move to a commune – might need to keep the expensive camera set up locked up. Am guessing the state should provide the padlocks?
And Yes, that makes me angry

Have you considered Pilates?

Of course, we need a politics of care.

We have to change.

We have a duty to change.

We cannot afford not to change.

The time for walking on the other side is over.

Such a Good Samaritan he has spent the last 20 years ripping off the taxpayer for every cent of his wealth.

Truly odious as ever

jgh
jgh
9 months ago
Reply to  Van_Patten

no doubt funded by the revenue from your ‘Taxing Wealth report

Upon being asked for clarification, he’s stated that the aim of taxing wealth is not to generate a revenue stream, but to simply remove the wealth from the people with the wealth.

Gamecock
Gamecock
9 months ago
Reply to  jgh

Exactly. His ideal is to eliminate the wealthy. Not using their money to help someone else.

Wealth brings freedom. Ultimately, it is freedom he and his fellow commies hate.

Edit: It goes beyond the wealthy. He wants to end a prosperous middle class. They too have too much freedom.

This isn’t new. It’s dekulakization.

Last edited 9 months ago by Gamecock
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