The very public claims that Farage, a man with pretensions to lead our country, hurt people as a racist school bully and refuses to atone or suitably acknowledge their hurt now that he is a dog-whistling adult.
It’ll be demanding reparations next.
The very public claims that Farage, a man with pretensions to lead our country, hurt people as a racist school bully and refuses to atone or suitably acknowledge their hurt now that he is a dog-whistling adult.
It’ll be demanding reparations next.
Lucy Connolly deleted then apologised for a nasty tweet and look where that got her. Farage could commit seppuku but it still wouldn’t be enough cos he’s white. The Egyptian bloke on the other hand…..
The thing with nearly all of these Twitter cases is that they were because someone admitted guilt. Which made it an easy case for the CPS. If you didn’t admit guilt, you had to prove it, and get jury or magistrates to agree, and causing offence is a vague thing that we all have different perspectives on.
Ricky Jones was seen actually calling for the mob to slit the throats of people he didn’t like, pleaded not guilty and got off. It may be how the legal system works but it sure isn’t justice.
I am willing to bet the CPS will not prosecute the Egyptian bloke despite prima facie evidence he is yet another violent, evil, roper nutjob.
That’s why they’re abolishing trial by jury. They control all the judges who can be relied upon to bang up people they don’t like…
It’s the same way TV Licensing still manages to prosecute about 30 women a year (it’s nearly always women). They send their minions to try to bully frightened middle aged and elderly women into signing a confession.
Never admit to anything and never speak to coppers without your solicitor present. Even if you think they’ve got you bang to rights, make the fuckers prove it. Lots can happen to your benefit, but only if you don’t make it easy for the authorities by admitting guilt.
The old LBC (late 80’s early ’90s) used to have a lawyer on once a week taking calls and giving advice. He always stressed, never, ever, talk to the police without a solicitor present and that was 30+ years ago so it’s doubly so now.
Another piece of advice I heard – never ever trust a Duty Solicitor – They are always at the nick and probably on matey terms with plod…..
And shit. The government is paying for the cheapest people. You aren’t going to get Johnny Cochran.
Indeed. He may have made that point as well.
The only time you should admit it is when you know they can easily prove it and there’s no way out, and you might get easier treatment. Like I once took a right-turn where it wasn’t allowed and a copper pulled me over. There was no getting out of that. Fessing up got me a small fine and no hassle.
Something that occurred to me about women is that nowadays, a lot of blokes don’t watch regular TV. It’s all girly craft shows, gay chat shows and whining female police officers. Other than a big football match, what is on TV that more men watch than women now?
American, oldie but Goldie, and still relevant;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
When racists shout ‘Go home’, and you come from 15 places, what to do?
I’m sure the writer, along with 99%* of his readers, believes those nasty Jews should be forced out of Israel and sent home to wherever that is.
* The other 1% would simply have them killed to simply the matter (although I may have underestimated this particular cohort).
But we’re the racists.
If you come from 15 places and happen to be here it shows you have a choice, so here must be pretty good. As such it’s pretty selfish to be criticizing the cultural norms that formed this “better” place. If fitting in here is that much of a problem to you please consider one of the other 14 or 15.
I just want him to fuck off and I don’t care where to.
“So when a lieutenant of Nigel Farage, admittedly no fan of Lammy’s, suggests, without notable contradiction or condemnation from Reform, that Lammy “should go home to the Caribbean”, one is tempted to look at that askance.”
When you drill into this, the full quote includes the words “where his loyalties lie” at the end, and it was in context of how Lammy has called for slavery reparations.
Standard bbc-style editing then.
Good point, WB.
Since Tottenham seems to be a Guyanan feifdom, seems to be a fair comment. King Bernie, Lammy’s predecessor in the seat, was from the same origins.
Coincidence? Do me a favour. Guyana’s so small, even my Brasilians who’s country shares a border with it have never heard of it.
Rule One: NEVER apologise.
People do silly things when they are teenagers. I did, Nigel did, everyone did.
Except Guardian writers and members of the Labour party, though. For some reason, nothing they did in their teenage years counts as silly or weird.
Forget the ‘teenage years’ argument, for members of the Labour party nothing they have ever done is silly, weird or due an apology for.
Socialists never fully grow up: socialism is a form of retardation.
Paul Nuttall ithe Reform Deputy Chairman. s alleged to have wrote horrific stuff about Jews and the Holocaust. That was alleged to be when he was a adult.
“[farage] hurt people as a racist school bully “
Dangerously skirting libel law there…. No proof other than hearsay from third parties, no proof of actual harm, and no proof of actual bullying..
Isn’t even “opinion” , this is a clearly stated accusation…
They are pretty safe. In court it would be one persons unprovable distant memories contradicting another’s, and might lead to other people suddenly “remembering” things thanks to the prospect of 15 minutes fame.
The result would be a political mud slinging exercise with no upside for Farage even if he “won”.
Exactly!
tl;dr: ” Identity politics for me but not for thee…”
Very generous of the Guardian to print that article. Could push Reform up a whole point in the polls if it’s disseminated widely enough. Send a link to anyone you know wavering.
“dog-whistling”: is that a sly allusion to the despicable Deputy Leader of the Labour Party and her description of people who object to the rapist gangs? No, probably not. It’s probably just evidence of the stupidity of the writer.
The Deputy Chairman of Reform Paul Nuttall is alleged to have written far worse stuff about Jews and the Holocaust.
When racists shout ‘Go home’, and you come from 15 places, what to do?
Run.
How does somebody come from 15 different places? Humans occupy a single body that is born once. Is he some gestalt entity, a fusion of 15 different people?
His Mum had a tattoo saying “All Aboard”?
You only have to go back as far as great-grandparents to be a fusion of 14 different people.
“The very public claims that Farage…… hurt people as a racist school bully”
Stop it, you’re making me want to vote for him more…..
Make Bullying Great Again
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OM_FZh1wDco
Or more succinctly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZcErcE9ai0
You are a creepy, warped, depraved woman with an attraction to bad boys and bullies. Pure evil. Vile.
Only warped, depraved, sadistic creeps support racism, and bullying.
If Farage was a racist bully he should be kept out of power.
“Only warped, depraved, sadistic creeps support racism,”
Thats no way to talk about Diane Abbott.
Young Nigel Farage prepares to welcome racially and gender diverse first formers (colourised, 1977)
For full effect, the waistcoat should really be double-breasted.
Why are you posting a photo of a young school boy?
That is creepy of you.
Why are you posting under two monikers – are you trying to imply there are multiple people posting the same gibberish?
You come from Gibberland. Your 1st language is Gibberish.
Have you ever considered an alternative career – as trolls go you really aren’t any cop- I’ve seen amoebas capable of doing a better job.
You ha e less brain cells than an amoeba.
The repetitive nature of his strangely worded non-allegation shouts
BOT!
“The very public *claims*…”
How complicated is it to translate “go home” to a more simple “get out”?
If the allegations are true that Farage bullied Jewish kids over the Holocaust then. He should never be PM..
The allegations place him above the age of criminal responsibility at the time..
It is a huge red flag to mock Jews over the Holocaust.
Plus Paul Nuttal the Reform Deputy Chairman is alleged to have suggested horrific stuff about Jews and the Holocaust.
There are a couple of billions anti-semites in the world who celebrate anything done to hurt Jews anywhere. They use guns, bombs, knives and trucks. Are not they a little bit more worrying than silly stories from the Guardian?
Farage could be PM of this country. It is very important t what his values could be.
“The allegations place him above the age of criminal responsibility at the time..”
And what crime would you think was committed? Anti-semitism is not a crime now, nor was it at the time of the alleged comments.
Don’t put the guy down, rhoda. Not when he’s doing so much to get Reform elected. And he’s not even getting paid for it. He’s doing it simply out of the goodness of his heart.
And there’s me thinking he’s a twat. How wrong can you be?
You are projecting. Look in the mirror and you see you are a t*a*.
Hoist by your own.
But some people suggest what you do as a 13 year old does not matter. I am pointing out the law sees 12 as the age of criminal responsibility.
So it does matter if someone does bad stuff at13.
So what are we to make of your activities, which I have hard evidence of:
I am presuming you are older than 13?
That’s Physical, rather than mental age?
Commies push out a strawman, stuffed with pity, and demand Farage respond. Ignoring the shits is a good plan.
Commies don’t debate, they dictate. ‘A conversation’ means they’ll tell you what you are allowed to believe. What you have to say is irrelevant to them.
The largest racial crime carried out on UK soil is the mass raope of girls by Pakistani males. The left do all they can to deny it.
Call someone a name 40 years ago and they cannot stop themselves going on about it…….