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What I want seems to me to be one of those simple things. I am clearly simpler than that thing.

What I want is to get one of the Epstein emails into an Open Office file. Now, yes, that’s simple enough that even I can do that.

But what I want is to get it in the format of the Epstein emails. And that I cannot do. I want the fonts, the font sizes, the way it’s laid out, in my Open Office file. For, what I want to write is a few spoofs of such emails. From: Vo**@***********************ir.su apologising for proffering a bird who gave someone the clap. Say, and as an example. Hey, the amusements of your host, eh?

If I have just the one file of that layout then I’m sure that I can use it, save under a different file name and use the layout again. Further, cut and paste should allow me to extend the conversation if that’s what I desire to do at any time.

But. Here’s a .pdf of one such file.

Or: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01740165.pdf

Which, in .pdf, looks like this:

That’s what I want my Open Office file to look like. But when I cut and paste from the .pdf file to Open Office I get this:

Which isn’t what I want at all. So, how do I get what I want? How do I get a template file, which I can then adjust as to text, that looks like the Epstein emails?

As you all know, I’m so inept that I don’t even know whether this is possible, let alone simple. But how do I get there? If I do?

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Tractor Gent
Tractor Gent
3 months ago

Google PDF to ODT. You’ll get lots of online converters. Try one then open the resulting odt file. Hopefully it will have retained some or all of the pdf formatting.

jc
jc
3 months ago
Reply to  Tractor Gent

For PDF to ODT

You need to have the PDF in text format not a an image.

Easist way is to use ABBY PDF, open – convert to searchable (ie text)- save to ODT.

However it’s windows only so dual boot or virtual machine.

Hint older versions of windows work faster I use W7 as it’s the oldest that qemu/vmm is happy with (with the network card removed) and transfer via USB flashcard). Good for converting PDF books to EPUB

Grikath
Grikath
3 months ago

*looks innocent* How *accurate* would you like the spoofs to look?

There’s a couple of tricks to it due to the way they’ve done the PDF’s so it’s not straight-up converting..
Needs a couple of steps to get it *just* right, but not too difficult.
All pretty standard, though.

Grikath
Grikath
3 months ago
Reply to  Tim Worstall

yeah… That’s a matter of leaving in just enough differences/subtle hints compared to the original, and there’s a lot you can do with the document ID…. 😉

andyf
andyf
3 months ago

This is a perfect use of AI. Tell the AI that you want it in the same format and font as Epstein emails. It took me under a minute with one revision to get it right with Grok. It even hints on phrasing style.

Richard Brown
Richard Brown
3 months ago

If all else fails AI probably is the quickest way. eg https://claude.ai/share/dc117129-68ad-4cde-9793-eac1cf7b799b (there’s an attempt there you can download). Not perfect But you can probably get it to iterate

Simon Jester
Simon Jester
3 months ago

It’s relatively straight-forward to manually add in any missing characters (line feeds, tabs, etc.) and set a tab stop to line up the From/To/Subject/Sent entries at the top.

Matching the font is a problem: the font in the pdf is Helvetica, which isn’t included in Libre Office. The closest match appears to be Nimbus Sans, which isn’t a perfect match – see the image, attached.

Peter
bloke in spain
bloke in spain
3 months ago

If you want the font, try sending your composition to yourself as an e-mail. Then open the e-mail & select text only display rather than HTM & copy from that. With my e-mail you’d have to go through replacing zeros with the stroke through with plain zeros
The e-mail you’re looking at are very old when the character set was little different from console script. Before they put al the bells & whistles into e-mail clients.

Bloke in Wales
Bloke in Wales
3 months ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

The font is whatever was used by the mail reader used by whoever printed the email to PDF. It is not necessarily the one that Epstein or Mandelcunt saw.

jc
jc
3 months ago
Reply to  Bloke in Wales

Assume it is an ms font – run through fonts-liberation2. Should be in the package list for most distros

Simon Jester
Simon Jester
3 months ago
Reply to  jc

Liberation Sans isn’t much better than Nimbus Sans, although if you’re going for something that looks reasonably similar, either could do.

Peter2
jc
jc
3 months ago
Reply to  Simon Jester

Exact fonts may be in  ttf-mscorefonts-installer for deb etc overwise search for your distro

jc
jc
3 months ago
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