We owe it to every victim of Jeffrey Epstein to better protect women and girls in Britain. And we will
Jess PhillipsI am furious that women and children have to endure a crisis like this for progress to become politically possible. But I will seize this moment
Not one mention – not even a side-eye – of the grooming gangs in this country. All eyes on that handful in the US, none on the thousands here.
But then Our Jess is the one who diverted and crippled the investigation into the grooming gangs here, isn’t she? You know, Our Jess with a 693 majority over the Muslim leaning Worker’s Party of George Galloway?
Brazen fucking hypocrisy.
What a miserable vile craven shit she is.
She is also the author of a book titles “Let’s Be Honest”. 4.2 rating on amazon.
Barf!
The Muslim Rapist demographic is vital for Labour to have any chance of winning elections. Simple as…
It’s worse than that. She’s a “working class”posh girl, fake to the core. This is layered on top of the usual obsequiousness to mozzers. She’s a mendacious gobby cow.
In 2006, 20 years ago, the Guardian was reporting the views of Muslims on Western women. It obviously didn’t affect the Left’s high opinion of them though:
Australian Muslim leader compares uncovered women to exposed meat
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/oct/26/australia.marktran
Labour-the Party of the working class!
With so many lawyers running around shouldn’t it, with the BBC, be required to change their names? Trades Description and all that…
They do like to throw the sound bite “victim” around, and in a strict legal sense 17 year old women earning money by prostitution are considered victims in the UK. The man involved is only committing a crime if it would be unreasonable for him to believe she was over 18. Given the media’s feeding frenzy on this story the men are the true victims with their faces being shown in released photos and the women’s faces being redacted.
The term “survivor” just ratchets the BS up further. The tarts “survived” being paid well, sometimes very well, to do a job. Not exactly different from most of the working population. Most people work for the money.
The problem I have is that a bloke fucking a 17 year old whore is a bit like someone flogging fake Gucci purses down the Sunday market. It’s a bad thing, and we don’t want to encourage it, but I don’t view it as an unnatural crime.
Ages of consent are really about the wishes of society, the demands of parents, and not whether it is unnatural. For 600 years, the age of consent was 12 in England. Raised to 13 in 1875. It’s now 16, and no porn or whoring until you are 18. This change is not about girls being physically or mentally mature enough, as we have not evolved that quickly. It is about people expecting girls to be more than just mothers or whores. That they have some education, have a *career*, *travel*. That they don’t get knocked up at 14. It also partly follows from more opportunities, less parental supervision with a father who will shoot anyone who comes near their daughter. “Society” acts in loco parentis.
But the thing is, some girls have “whore” as their best option. And maybe not advertising it, but I mean, they give blowjobs to the bloke next door and he does things like takes them shopping, treats them to gig tickets. A 16 year old from a council estate is probably going to get more from doing that than what she gets from school. Does anyone think Samantha Fox would have been solving Fermat’s Last Theorem if she hadn’t been getting her tits out in The Sun?
Thing is, that view is similar to the justifications given by our authorities and establishment for ignoring the rape gangs – these are all just slaggy girls and their interactions with our new communities are unfortunate but not surprising or “unnatural”.
I’ve never established if this is slaggy underage girls, or girls being forcibly raped. Both are technically rape in law. But I take a different view of the two things.
150 years ago, forcibly penetrating a 14 year old was still rape, but a roll in the hay wasn’t.
WB, have a read of some of the testimony these girls have given (and Kudos to Katie Lam MP for repeating some of it in the HoC).
I think the threat of having your tongue nailed to a table if you told anyone of what those moslem men did to an underage girl would establish pretty fucking quickly it wasn’t in any way ‘consensual’.
OT, but there are subtler forms of child abuse….Seen today in Guildford Library:-
And…
Abuse, certainly.
The whole question of “non-binary” is itself an absurdity. What is this additional axis required to produce a position in 3D space which is not on the axis of male to female? Cat? Chair? Narcissistic cunt?
Whatever was the matter with simple “androgynous”? (Rhetorical question.)
OBSCENE! No apostrophe.
Move it. Put it somewhere really boring that no kids will find it, like behind the Barbara Cartlands.
One could argue that in whoring, girls are simply making the best use of their assets available to them at the time, which is where I agree with WB. There is an argument, not without merit, that that is precisely what Melania did. It’s essentially what any trophy wife does.
It’s transactional, and like any legal transaction there’s nothing wrong with it if both parties are better off as a result. The only problem with whoring is the myth about virginity, the problem of emotional betrayal, and issues with unwanted issue.
Well, if we want to get all intellectual and nuanced about it you could say that’s what any wife does; indeed that any human female offering themselves sexually is doing so as part of a business arrangement, be it for biological, material or emotional reward. And it’s all fun and games in a gentlemen’s discussion about anthropology. But sitting around and saying that basically all women are slags rather pulls the rug out from under another argument. This one:
Labour is the party of Muslim Gang Rape
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Brevitas est.
Oooh, no-one is saying all women are slags, PJF. Furthermore there’s no practical difference between a trophy wife and an arranged marriage. Both are primarily transactional, and that to me is the point: is the arrangement primarily transactional? Plenty of cultures insist it should be. Those which value Romantic Love don’t. Some, like contemporary Japan, are moving from one to the other.
Labour is most certainly the party of Muslim Gang Rape. Unfortunately it’s not the only one.
For every woman, it’s a mix of things, like it is for men. Guys who earn nothing struggle, even if they’re hung like a donkey.
Same as men have the crazy/hot matrix. You see these hot women, and they keep getting dumped, there’s a reason for that. They can look like Margot Robbie, but if they’re mad as a box of frogs men will dump them.
But the thing is, some girls have “whore” as their best option.
Hey Siri, what is Only Fans?
“This change is not about girls being physically or mentally mature enough, as we have not evolved that quickly”
True, but I think there is also a social / personal development aspect to it.
Age of consent I think becomes self-reinforcing. Society no longer expects people under that age to be able to make rational decisions for themselves, indeed no longer allows them to make rational decisions for themselves, and so it doesn’t take long before people below that age actually are incapable of making rational decisions for themselves.
Hold on, children are capable of making rational decisions in the voting booth.
There’s a lot of truth in that. Childhood used to be quite a brief period. The 1833 factory act raised the age of factory workers to 9. Before then, children as young as 5 did useful things.
The more that we push for formal education to be extended, the further people are from life experience. You learn how to write an essay in French, that you’ll never use again, instead of gaining real life experience. Most kids should leave school at 14 as that’s when general education ends. A few kids are going to go on to be doctors, chemists etc, so more study is good for them, but kids going onto call centres or hairdressing would gain more from going to work, doing apprenticeships.
Of course, the whole thing of All Women Shall Work (doing jobs we don’t need much of the time) has then led to the extension of school as a form of babysitting.
Only to be expected from this miserable imitation of a political party.
It ought to be astonishing, but actually it’s completely predictable. The woman is vile.
I think I blame Blair’s abolition of the convention* whereby parliament did not sit before lunch, so as to give MPs with work – which, pejoratively became known as ‘outside interests’ – a chance to do a bit of work before coming in to the House. That convention had a chance of keeping them plugged into the normal rhythms of life, spending time around normal people. Now, they spend all day whispering, sniggering and texting in corridors and nooks and just agitating and politicking. They think that’s normal and that it is work. In reality, they inhabit a poisonous dormitory in which they behave like adult four year olds, and they have no idea just how they seem to most people.
*there were so many.
The afternoon/evening sittings weren’t about backbenchers being able to go out and work. When this subject started getting raised because of women entering parliament and wanting a family life Michael Heseltine pointed out on QT, a very long time ago, it was about Ministers being able to do their ministerial work in the morning and then being able to attend parliament in the afternoon and evening take part in debates and be held to account.
It would be interesting to see how much Tim ministers spend in the house now compared to Hesletine’s day.
Yes, well another thing to bring back would be PMQs twice a week. Make it clear to whoever is in No 10 that that he is just another MP.
Labour is the party of Muslim Gang Rape
Not exclusively. There are several parties who have collectively sold whatever souls they once had in return for the promise of postal votes and others who are more concerned with children in Mirpur and Gaza than Rotherham and Rochdale.
Mo charaid, this is not about votes.
Would that it were something so simple and rational.
‘And children.’ Appeal to pity, and ‘women’ just isn’t enough to raise pity.
British humour.
Conspicuously absent is any mention of their real problem: men. There is nothing stopping the wimmins from fixing their own damn problems. This is the commies in-bred personality disorder: all their problems are being caused by someone else – men. They are powerless to fix it. But they are equal. Phillip’s retarded tome NEVER says what the solution is, but says that institutions can provide it. Women will be just fine if institutions do the right thing.
Societies are created by women. She thinks British society is broken. Well, y’all created it. What is YOUR solution? Is she waiting for MEN to fix it? Like most feminazi proclamations, it is a declaration of dependence on men.
Watch out, Jess, don’t get stomped by the elephant in the room.
I knew the Epstein thing was utter fucking bollocks as soon as leftist creeps on both sides of the Atlantic decided it was safe to flap their big stupid mouths about it – which only came about six years after Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself.
He’s Emmanuel Epstein now, a safe, officially designated target for Hate. A big Jew did it, and ran away, eh? Absolute nonsense, but very reminiscent of the postmortem treatment of Jimmy Savile, who was similarly seized on, in the way a drowning man will clutch at reeds, to change the subject from the industrial scale rape of Britain’s children by Muslims and the British government’s role as the ever-reliable Ghislaine to the grooming gangs.
“the British government’s role as the ever-reliable Ghislaine to the grooming gangs.” Well put. In fact very well put.
“He’s Emmanuel Epstein now, a safe, officially designated target for Hate. A big Jew did it, and ran away, eh? ” brilliant Steve, great writing.
GC, “Conspicuously absent is any mention of their real problem: men”.
As far as I understand it there have been ‘men’ in the UK for a good few years now, yet the industrial scale rape, sexual torture, forced drug taking, forced consumption of alcohol and forced participation in acts of real depravity against young white girls wasn’t part of the landscape. I wonder why? What changed?
moslems arrived.
The real problem is islam and those who submit to it, and following on from that is the fear of non moslems being labelled racist for calling out moslems.
Untless someone has the balls to deal with islam it will get worse, and white people will be eliminated.
My perspective is from SE USA. The Muslim Problem hasn’t made it to my area yet. I am just talking about the feminazis and the irony of their total dependence on men.
Maybe I’m a rotten cynic, but I’m afraid that I am having a very hard time discerning any credible ‘victims’ in the whole Epstein mess. Lots of reprehensible and more-or-less disgusting behaviour, to be sure, but very few actual ‘victims’.
I see parades of tearful women in their 40’s, who like to present their situations as being analogous to dewy-eyed innocents snatched from the village green by roving Barbary corsairs and held in chains in the bilges of a three-row galley on their way to ‘a fate worse than death’. But then we learn that many/most of them were more-or-less adult women when they were involved with Epstein, who freely chose to engage with him and his cronies. There was no force, no compulsion, no violence, and indeed, may of them enjoyed a life of more-or-less leisure in luxurious surroundings at no greater cost than their virtue – a bargain which, it would seem, many of them chose to make. That they now regret it, and/or see their past choices as a route to present-day victimhood and potential gain, is hard to sympathise with.
There’s rather a good scene in the TV series ‘Landman’ which sums up the situations of most of these ladies in about 20 seconds.
https://youtube.com/shorts/l8ucOd85weA?si=04NeaLe7E7xzbQQM
When I was a young man, in the days of gas light and horsedrawn carriages, there was a certain subset of ladies who perfectly-well understood the acronym ‘NCNR’ and were perfectly-happy to go along with the deal. These ladies seem to me, for the most part, to share the same values.
llater,
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Well put.
You do remind me of the wails of Weinsteins’ women. I didn’t notice a peep from them until he was jailed. Then it was all ‘we wuz raped!!!’
The Starmerfuhrer made an appearance on the Radio Two Jeremy Vine show an hour ago to bang the drum for his fight against VPNs, he sounded utterly clueless and a remarkable poor speaker for an ex lawyer.- Vine rang rings round him.
To adapt Mr Kunstler’s wise words about the USA: having lost its 20th century base of factory workers, the Labour Party has had to work the extreme margins of British life to build a coalition of the feckless, the reckless, the brainless, and the shameless. They have become the Party’s wards in a reimagined patronage system
Pip CL, thank you for that, I hope you don’t mind if I steal the middle sentence.
I stole it from Kunstler, so why not?
O/T but the alleged frog poison which so conveniently dominated the weekend headlines and allowed Mrs balls a few moments to bask in the spotlight has predictably disappeared without trace.
When I heard that Whitehall and the Daily Telegraph were fretting about a regime opponent dying in prison I assumed for a moment they meant Peter Lynch.
John, how did Porton Down deduce it was a South American tree frog as the source of the poison? Did Vlad send over a blood sample? I would’ve thought that after his death Mr. Navalny would’ve been cremated pronto but it appears not, so has someone dug up his remains and shipped them over?
If memory serves (it’s a long time since I read it) T E Lawrence pointed out that the extremely low population density of Arabia would have condemned the population to extinction through inbreeding, unless…
Hence the raiding, rustling, raping and kidnapping was a means to preserve a healthy population.
So the tribesmen of Boko Haram and Bradford are just continuing an ancient tradition.