Skip to content

Anti-semitism in Ely

We now know from reliable sources that some claims already made, including that Iran launched a drone strike against the UK base on Cyprus, were false. This raises questions about where the drone in question was launched from, with the possibility that this was a false flag operation by Israel clearly being left hanging as a result.

The Jooos are just so cunning, eh?

Real tin foil hat stuff:

What we do know is that Trump began this believing that his success in Venezuela made him invincible, and that his need for a war to distract from the Epstein files was overwhelming.

And this?

And if people realise that leaders who are only concerned with their personal well-being should not be trusted, we might get a shift in politics.

There are, however, a great many maybes and straightforward doubts in those three statements. The simple fact is that war rarely produces good outcomes.

The question is when we will realise that, and when will our armed forces actually begin to doubt whether what they are asked to do is legal, beneficial, or appropriate to follow.

When that happens, we might get a total reappraisal of what defence means.

Sel-interest among politicians means the military should mutiny? There’s a reason that will never go away, eh?

0 0 votes
Article Rating
Subscribe
Notify of
guest

64 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Stonyground
Stonyground
1 month ago

“And if people realise that leaders who are only concerned with their personal well-being should not be trusted, we might get a shift in politics.”

Most of us realised this decades ago and he’s only just worked it out?

Bloke in South Dorset
Bloke in South Dorset
1 month ago
Reply to  Stonyground

Which is part of why most of us think governments should do less. But Murphy?

Interested
Interested
1 month ago

The question is when… will our armed forces actually begin to doubt whether what they are asked to do is legal, beneficial, or appropriate to follow.

Just off to send this to the Royal Navy, back in a mo.

PiP Supreme Leader
PiP Supreme Leader
1 month ago

Given the affair of the USS Liberty it would be absurdly stupid not to wonder whether Israel has been making false flag attacks. How to get conclusive evidence either way is a bit of a prob though.

Interested
Interested
1 month ago

Well, up to a point.

That was in 1967 and I think probably a genuine error – I know some people claim it as a false flag, but it’s a pretty shit false flag when you precede the firing of the torpedo with a strafing attack by your identifiable aircraft and the boat from which you fire the torpedo is also very easily identifiably Israeli, to the point where it is flying its flag in full view of the target, and you admit it all virtually immediately.

It is pretty hard to fire missiles or launch drones in what is currently the most heavily overwatched areas in the world that are not trackable back to something like their point of origin.

PiP Supreme Leader
PiP Supreme Leader
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

What about the Lavon Affair? False flag terror bombs being placed in Egypt in 1954; after half a century of denial Israel eventually owned up.

I repeat, in case of doubt: it is moronic to assume that any country would never use false flag attacks. That’s especially true if the country has a secret service with a record of using them.

Interested
Interested
1 month ago

I suppose one should never assume anything, and I wouldn’t put much past any government, but as I say they can (usually, and to a point) see roughly where they’re being fired from.

Plus why would Israel need to do this? The war has begun, and was begun by the US. If the Israelis wanted to run a false flag I would have thought it would have been designed to bring the US in, not us, and it would have been done before it began, not after.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago

absurdly stupid…??

PiP Supreme Leader
PiP Supreme Leader
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

Yup. Any statement that boils down to “It is inconceivable that the government of the Republic of Somewhereorother would tell a lie” is daft. Surely nobody would say it about our government, or the US’s, or France’s. So why say it about (any) Middle Eastern government?

Interested
Interested
1 month ago

I don’t think anyone is saying that, are they?

In fact, if anything, we’re suggesting that there probably are governmental liars working here, but that while – yes – the Israelis might lie, and so might we and the Septics, the government of Iran and its apologists are more likely to be the liars in this scenario.

Longrider
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

Occam’s razor suggests Iran is the most likely culprit. Withugh contrary evidence, that’s what I’d go with.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago

It would not be “absurdly stupid not to wonder whether Israel has been making false flag attacks”. Arguably, it might be short-sighted or imprudent or unimaginative etc not to consider the possibility, but it is not “absurdly stupid” to ignore an evidence-free hypothesis.

Ironman
Ironman
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

No , but to entertain that notion, on the absence of any supporting evidence, does make Murphy and anyone on this site following his suggestion an anti-Semite.
That is, a vile, racist, lying scumbag.

Agammamon
Agammamon
1 month ago

Jesus fucking Christ. 60 fucking years and that is all you anti-semites have – one incident.

WHICH WAS NOT A FALSE FLAG!

A false flag attack is when you pretend to be a different nation than you are to get people to blame them. You don’t do a false flag with your own ships and aircraft flying your own colors.

You don’t harp on the fucking Japanese now do you? How many ships did they *deliberately* sink? Ze Germans?

‘Oh, but that was a long time ago and we’re friends with them now’ – fuuuuuck you.

Jason Lynch
Jason Lynch
1 month ago
Reply to  Agammamon

The greatest and best false flag of all time was when the Royal Navy bombed Pearl Harbor.

PJF
PJF
1 month ago
Reply to  Jason Lynch

And there’s nothing false about the glorious Hawaii state flag.

Interested
Interested
1 month ago

We now know from reliable sources that some claims already made, including that Iran launched a drone strike against the UK base on Cyprus, were false.

I’d love to know who his reliable sources are – I suspect it’s Iranian state media.

Though Murphy might be correct – it is possible that it might have been Hezbollah, firing an Iranian drone, under Iranian orders, paid by Iran, so definitely not Iran.

Raffles
Raffles
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

I think I read that it was Hezbollah firing from Lebanon.
Maybe just an unsubstantiated rumor…

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
1 month ago
Reply to  Raffles

Raffles

As a Gentleman you should know not to spread ‘unsubstantiated rumors’

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

I have found his reliable sources – SNP Propaganda mouthpiece ‘The national’ quotes the MOD as saying the drone was not launched from Iran.

I would genuinely put the KCNA feed (National News Agency of North Korea) above the SNP in terms of reliability. Whenever I see John Swinney I’m reminded of the words of an old work colleague’s aphorism:

‘I know you’re lying, your lips are moving’

Philip Scott Thomas
Philip Scott Thomas
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

The MoD said on X that the drone didn’t originate in Iran. The general reporting is that is was Hezbollah in Beirut.

Interested
Interested
1 month ago

Yes, as I said. The point is that Murphy and his fellow travellers are trying to imply that Iran had nothing to do with it, when their proxies don’t so much as wipe their noses without instructions from Teheran. Though such instructions are presumably getting harder to receive and riskier to follow.

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

The pagers are presumably out of action….

Interested
Interested
1 month ago
Reply to  Van_Patten

You can only blow them up once…

Anon
Anon
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

Hezbollah in particular have a lot of IRGC commanders embedded, so are kept on a tight leash. Some of Iran’s other proxies are more autonomous. Hamas leaders regularly have meetings with IRGC leadership in Lebanon, Iran and (until the fall of Assad) in Syria, so they are supervised. But there aren’t lots of Iranian placemen inside Gaza or the West Bank like there are in Lebanon, the Iraqi Shia militias, and even inside the more distant and geographically isolated Houthis. Obviously Hamas are also unusual among Iranian proxies for their origins in the Muslim Brotherhood, a Sunni strand of political islamism, which is why they have other sponsors like Qatar and Erdogan’s Turkey. That likely gives them a bit more operational flexibility.

The fact Hamas seemed surprised that October 7 wasn’t immediately followed by Hezbollah opening a front in the north is quite revealing – though the conflict eventually became multi-front, it happened in a piecemeal way. Taking that at face value it seems the IRGC wasn’t fully informed about the plan, let alone directing it centrally, since proper coordination early in the conflict would have put Israel in a much tougher position. But there had been a top-level IRGC/Hezbollah/Hamas meeting in Beirut shortly before, which muddies the waters – many commentators assume Hamas’s plan must have been at least discussed.

One theory is that the IRGC liked the general thrust of the Hamas strategy, which had been building for years and was surely well-known to the Iranians, but disapproved of Hamas striking prematurely. It wasn’t ideal while Hezbollah and the IRGC were heavily engaged supporting Assad in Syria. Naturally the Israelis have good enough reasons to strike the Islamic Republic regardless of whether it did or didn’t dictate or authorise the Simchat Torah pogrom. The regime certainly funded, armed and applauded it. But if there’s a revolution and the IRGC archives get released, a lot of interested parties will want to find out who knew or directed what. Very likely it would also shed light on Iranian operations in the West – there have apparently been many foiled attacks that intelligence agencies and governments have preferred to keep hushed up.

Interested
Interested
1 month ago
Reply to  Anon

Yes I have mates who were out there within 12 hours of it happening, in an advisory capacity. The feeling is that if Hezbollah had gone for it the outcome would have been far, far worse.

Well, anon-ish.
Well, anon-ish.
1 month ago
Reply to  Anon

<blockquote>Hezbollah in particular have a lot of IRGC commanders embedded, so are kept on a tight leash.</blockquote>
Reportedly, considerably fewer since yesterday evening.

Jason Lynch
Jason Lynch
1 month ago

It gets forgotten that nearly twenty years ago, Hezbollah were such close Iranian proxies that they claimed credit for a missile attack on an Israeli frigate (that was actually conducted by the IRGC who sneaked the fire units in, volleyed off the missiles, slightly damaged the frigate Hanit and sank an unfortunate merchant ship, the MV Moonlight, that was downrange)

Hezbollah are basically Iranian glove puppets – if Hezbollah lobbed a strike drone at Cyprus it was because the Iranians told them to.

Ironman
Ironman
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

Press TV is a reliable source for Murphy.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
1 month ago

and that his need for a war to distract from the Epstein files was overwhelming.

This got raised amongst some of the more conspiracy theory members of our gold group yesterday. They looked at me blankly when I pointed out that if it was personal for Trump it was more likely because the Iranian regime tried to assassinate him.

John
John
1 month ago

Until someone tells me why the Biden administration and the virulently anti-Trump deep state sat on incriminating evidence for the entire 4 years, not even releasing it (assuming there is an “it”) in order to influence elections, is simply inconceivable.

Ergo there is nothing incriminating.

PiP Supreme Leader
PiP Supreme Leader
1 month ago
Reply to  John

Yep, that’s my guess too. I’m even cynical enough to wonder whether the release of more stuff that the Dems have been pressing for will contain more stories of misbehaviour by Dems and their supporters. That would be why the release has been delayed – to ensure more publicity for this next batch.

John
John
1 month ago

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2026/03/04/congress/nancy-mace-sexual-harassment-disclosure-00812773

Meanwhile the congressmen and women so anxious to release the Epstein files have closed ranks around their colleagues.

One rule for thee, another for me.,

bobby b
bobby b
1 month ago
Reply to  John

Someone raising the Trump/Epstein topic is enough for me to understand the lack of seriousness in that person, and the pointlessness of further discussions with them. That’s walk-away-and-laugh time. Trump hid what Biden knew and suppressed? I think not.

Steve
Steve
1 month ago

It’s equally as retarded as when they were pretending to believe he’s a KGB agent controlled by V. Putin.

Trump is a wonderful clarifier – you can tell very quickly by someone’s attitude towards the Golden Don if they’re a serious person or just another bullshitter making pointless mouth noises because it was their turn to speak. Thatcher had a similar effect, but with Trump it’s turned up to 11.

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
1 month ago
Reply to  Steve

People like Thatcher, Trump, Hitler, Saddam Hussein are the comic book villains of people’s imaginations.

PiP Supreme Leader
PiP Supreme Leader
1 month ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

The most villainous US Prez of my lifetime must, I think, be LBJ.

Of La Thatch: the longer she’s been gone, the more highly I think of her.

Hitler: being Green and a vegetarian presumably means that nowadays he’d support Hypnotits. Mind you, having one ball might rule him out from being a tranny.

Interested
Interested
1 month ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

Hitler was pretty villainous, even if you can sort of understand why he came to power (I’m just re-reading Fergusson’s The Death of Money, which goes a long way to explaining it). Saddam used nerve gas on kids and ran torture factories (true story).

Agree re Thatcher and Trump though, and not just because I’m sympathetic to their political views and actions.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

Saddam used nerve gas on kids and ran torture factories (true story).

I haven’t listened to the Jocko Willink podcast for some time but I remember him talking about the purpose built torture chasers built in to the palaces Saddam and his son built that they found as the liberated the country.

He also talked about how Saddam’s eldest son would turn up at weddings and rape the bride to be.

Nice family.

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

Saddam Hussein did the sorts of things that medieval monarchs of Europe did. Obviously, they didn’t have nerve gas. Everyone in the middle east is fighting at that level. If you don’t let the other guys know what you’re prepared to do they’ll come for you.

But the point is more that there’s what someone actually did (in truth) and what people imagine.

Interested
Interested
1 month ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

That’s not entirely true but anyway I was responding to the suggestion that they were comic book villains – as I say, I think Hitler and Saddam were genuine. I know blokes who were in Baghdad immediately after the Iraqi army capitulated, and were then part of the hunt for Saddam. They tell some quite hair raising stories about what they found. (One of my mates has a chrome plated and obviously deactivated AK47 and a gilded chair liberated from Saddam’s main palace – his taste was also execrable.)

Bloke in Wales
Bloke in Wales
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdeNnroG_7I

Royal Armouries, “The Golden Kalashnikov out of Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, with firearms expert Jonathan Ferguson”

Jason Lynch
Jason Lynch
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

Having wandered around one of Saddam’s palaces at Baghdad Airport, I can confirm that his taste was utterly atrocious, but also that his builders and decorators saw him coming and saw him off in a huge way – not only was the place hideous, but the quality was awful.

Steve
Steve
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

Hitler was not personally villainous, if you didn’t get him started on the Jews.

Marius
Marius
1 month ago
Reply to  Steve

It’s equally as retarded as when they were pretending to believe he’s a KGB agent controlled by V. Putin.

Many of them still do. I think some actually believe it…..

Spiro Ozer
Spiro Ozer
1 month ago
Reply to  Marius

It is amazing what some people will believe if they want to enough, isn’t it.

“Saddam’s eldest son would turn up at weddings and rape the bride to be”. And then there were the people fed into plastic shrdders.

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
1 month ago

‘The UK has been compromised as a consequence, not least by reinforcing that base for what might be false reasons’

His expertise extends to military tactics – which given he decries all military spending as ‘bad’ is probably an error. Given the proximity of Cyprus to the Middle East I would say reinforcing personnel based there is probably prudent. Certainly beats squandering materiel in the Russian theatre.

‘A few states have had the sense to criticise the USA. Spain has stood out for doing so.’

The Spanish government hopes to capitalize on the Trump Derangement syndrome which exists across the EU to bolster its failing domestic position. It’s also been consistently anti-semitic and pro ISIS since the Hamas invasion of October 7th. When the balloon goes up and we get multiple equivalents to the Madrid bombing across the country and ISIS (Which has a keen interest in Spain as it was part of what they perceive as ‘the original caliphate’ historically) takes control my guess is Sanchez and his dismal acolytes will be the first to be decapitated.

Gamecock
Gamecock
1 month ago

The problem is Iran and the activities of the Mullahs threatening the world. How does commie dick Murphy address that?

He doesn’t. It’s from the Saul Alinsky playbook. Distract with claims that Western leaders are not living up to Western mores.

Calling Trump names never stopped a suicide bomber.

Addolff
Addolff
1 month ago

I wonder if Spud has considered that if there are no mullahs in Tehran, they’ll be no hesbollah terrorists in Lebanon, no Houthi terrorists in Yemen and no Hamas terrorists in Gaza, no threat to international shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, no Iranian made drones in Ukraine, no Iranian oil going to China (on top of the no Venezuelan oil going to China).
Plus assorted Shia militias throughout the Middle East…….

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
1 month ago
Reply to  Addolff

I wonder if Spud has considered …..

Hahahaha

Spud doesn’t do first order effects let alone 2nd or higher order ones.

His output is a sort of Tourette’s Syndrome, he spouts stuff to get noticed not to add to the general debate.

Anon
Anon
1 month ago
Reply to  Addolff

Unfortunately Hamas has other sponsors including its own financial networks (channeling ‘charity’ money from the diaspora and the gullible) as well as Qatar and Turkey’s Erdogan, who are more ideologically in tune with its Muslim Brotherhood (a strand of Sunni political islamism) origins than the Shias in Tehran were. They won’t go away any time soon. Getting rid of their largest sponsor, and the only one able to use other proxies like the Houthis, Hezbollah and Iraqi Shia militias as additional leverage, would be a very good start though.

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
1 month ago
Reply to  Addolff

The BiND has it.

I often call the late Lord Bauer, who was right on almost every issue of consequence the ‘Anti-Murphy’ but it could equally be applied to the Great Frederic Bastiat, who was a master at analyzing second or even third order consequences.

As he says, Murphy doesn’t even do first order so the likelihood of him considering that is as close to zero as is statistically possible to get.

Martin Near The M25
Martin Near The M25
1 month ago

Is he after a job as an Ayatollah now?

John
John
1 month ago

One step at a time.

Start off as a Green Party candidate.

andyf
andyf
1 month ago

Not good prospects for grift there. In the near future people will only briefly hold that role.

John
John
1 month ago

Whenever I read the words “reliable sources” I am reminded of this personal favourite:-

Well I rang up Pantucci
Spoke to Luchi, I gave them all
They needed to know
If affairs are proceeding
As we’re expecting, soon enough
The weak spots will show
I assume you understand that we have options on your time
And will ditch you in the harbour if we must:
But if it all works out nicely
You’ll get the bonus you deserve
From doctors we trust

Mr Womby
Mr Womby
1 month ago
Reply to  John

Ooh, an Eno reference!

Steve
Steve
1 month ago

his need for a war to distract from the Epstein files was overwhelming.

You’ll never catch them explaining what it is exactly Trump is supposed to be “distracting” from, (the legal troubles of Andrew and Mandrew?) but that’s the point of the smear.

“Huhhuhhuh, BLUMPF just needed to distract from those files he ordered to be released huhuhuh wonder what else he’s hiding *smirk*”

Lefties want you to think they’re smart, but most of them are sniggering thickos. Behind the thin pretense of knowledge and the (poorly simulated) performative demonstrations of “caring”, it’s the same old bitter losers, seething about people who can afford narrowboats.

Bloke in South Dorset
Bloke in South Dorset
1 month ago
Reply to  Steve

Is he annoyed that people can afford narrowboats, or is it the sense of freedom that boats tend to give off that he hates?

The Original Jim
The Original Jim
1 month ago

Probably both, but particularly the former, as he had a right old rant about people spending their hard earned (and taxed) money on fripperies like canal boats a while back.

andyf
andyf
1 month ago
Reply to  Steve

They trying to dig up events 30 years ago. How can anyone remember what they did and with who 30 years ago, let alone give reliable testimony.

Ed P
Ed P
1 month ago

Remember potato guns? They fired a slug of raw potato – the sort of thing this twat might actually know about, instead of his usual imagined stuff that he’s ignorant about- and they were jolly good fun.
I can think of nothing better for Spud but to use him up with a thousand cuts as potato gun pellets. He might have found his true vocation.

Longrider
1 month ago

He makes the 9/11 troofers look almost sane.

64
0
Would love your thoughts, please comment.x
()
x