A California jury found Bill Cosby guilty of sexual assault in a civil trial on Monday, awarding Donna Motsinger $59.25m in damages. Motsinger alleged in the case that while working as a restaurant server in 1972, she was drugged and raped by Cosby after he gave her a glass of wine in his limousine.
Motsinger sued Cosby after California amended its laws to change the statutes of limitations on when accusers can file sexual assault cases.
The statute of limitations is there for a reason. Even, a number of them. One of which is what evidence was there here which could be tested? Personal statements from more than 50 years back? No, obviously I don’t know but there’s no real way that anyone else can either….
I woke up in my underwear at home this morning. Should I assume I have been raped?
An Aspirin? Why? Did she have a headache?
It’s a contraceptive. You put one in your shoe and it makes you limp.
I thought they were supposed to be held between the knees?
Open season on the old lecher. He was spared gaol thanks to a plea bargain from a previous dodgy DA.
If I get my magnifying glass, I might find my violin.
I do have trouble with statutes of limitations, though. I can see their advantages, but all it takes is a patient criminal to get away with a heinous crime.
As with Trump and the mad E. Jean Carroll, who couldn’t remember the day, the date, the week or the month he allegedly assaulted her, and was supposedly wearing a designer trouser suit which the designer herself stated wasn’t on sale in the year the alleged incident took place, all that matters is that the woman says it happened.
I fear that after the mid-terms, on the near certain assumption that despite a majority in both houses the Republicans will fail to pass the SAVE Act, the last two years of Trump 47 will be stymied by endless impeachments and lawfare including the return of E Jean Carroll and all the corrupt judges, prosecutors and new York jurors who don’t care about facts and evidence (or more accurately the complete absence thereof).
In fact I’m sure that’s exactly what a number of RINOs are counting on.
I don’t have any problems with people being sued for things that happened in the past if there is evidence – but just her word is not enough.
Although it wouldn’t be enough if it happened a week ago to be honest.
That is the problem with the ‘he said, she said’ stuff.
There seems no doubt Epstein was a pimp, but whether the girls consented or not at the time is really unknowable.
They were all street girls. Girls from broken homes that had got out and were living on the streets fucking for cash. The Epstein offer was better. Nicer house, more cash.
Teenage girls 14+ will shag blokes. The blokes shouldn’t shag them, but whether it’s that they like shagging, gifts, combination of the two, they see it as being to their advantage. I’ll bet if I went around the worst estates here and offered 16 year old girls hanging around the shops £1000 for a shag (which is what Virginia Guiffre got) I’d get takers. What are they getting from Darren at school? Trip to Burger King?
Rape in the situation of “woman gets into car” is almost impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt. It’s not like woman is walking across field and a man she had no connection with had sex with her and there is evidence of physical violence.
Particularly when a lot of alcohol is involved. Drunk women do all the crazy shit that their inhibitions stop them doing. And the next day, the sober woman might 100% believe that she wasn’t the willing participant in a spitroast. Memories get hazy when you’re really drunk. Because sober she absolutely wouldn’t. She might read some smut and enjoy the fantasy but wouldn’t for real. She’d pass a lie detector test on it, too.
There was a study into the whole rohypnol spiking thing which found no evidence of it in reported rape. It didn’t appear in blood tests. But there was lots of alcohol.
One of the known physical effects of alcohol is it buggers up the brains ability to make short term memories and this kicks in quite quickly. I recall nights out with mates who would routinely ask girls the same question they had asked 5 minutes earlier. It’s why you so often wake up with little idea of what you’ve done the night before, even when to those around you say you didn’t seem “that drunk” at the time. I’m amazed this known fact isn’t brought up more often by defence lawyers in those ‘date rape’ he says/she says cases.
There’s a bit of a Chesterton’s Fence thing about the old rules of dating, I think. You want to take a girl on a date, her family come along. You do that for a bit, ask for her hand in marriage and both parties, before the whole community say “I do”. Which is roughly “I am perfectly happy for this man to bone me”.
Variations of this were things like engagement=start boning, depending on the culture (For a time, you got married when you got pregnant, as it meant that it was all working).
If you’d got into some man’s carriage and he gave you something to knock you out, everyone would have probably shrugged at your foolishness and pointed at the structure that existed.
That’s a positive invitation to play this lovely old thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvBFL4UA36k
“And Her Mother Came Too.”
A threesome, then.
Didn’t Alan Clark bring the sister as well?
I’ve seen (or heard of) a few things on tour, BiSD. Peas in a pod come to mind.
Which is roughly “I am perfectly happy for this man to bone me”.
I must remember that one.