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We’re fucked lads, completely fucked

.…because Miliband is the cabinet’s resident deep thinker at a time when big ideas are suddenly back.

Given what he says about renewables etc we’re wholly fucked, tight?

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Michael van der Riet
Michael van der Riet
1 month ago

“I hope if dogs ever take over the world, and they chose a king, they don’t just go by size, because I bet there are some Chihuahuas with some good ideas.” ~ Deep Thoughts By Jack Handey.

John
John
1 month ago

Let’s be honest compared to Rayner and Lammy he is an intellectual deep thinker (so is my cat though).

A misguided egocentric little git admittedly (not my cat) but with an undeniable tenacity at pushing through his deeply destructive agenda.

I can understand why that would be appealing to many Labourites in stark comparison to TTK who believes in nothing except the need for obsequious deferral to the EU and particularly the ECHR.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
1 month ago
Reply to  John

And Islam. And China. And ‘International Law.’

decnine
decnine
1 month ago
Reply to  rhoda klapp

And ‘process’.

Norman
Norman
1 month ago
Reply to  decnine

And an unshakable faith in his own rectitude.

Interested
Interested
1 month ago
Reply to  Norman

This may be the biggest problem we have with these cunts. Their lack of self-doubt leads them to unreflection and is driving us into the abyss.

Penseivat
Penseivat
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

Please don’t refer to these numpties as cunts. Cunts are lovely, and warm, and flexible, and accommodating, and desired by both males and females. Nothing like the morons being discussed.

johnthebridge
johnthebridge
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

Yep.
None of them appear to have the slightest idea of what the man on the Clapham omnibus actually wants from life.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago
Reply to  Norman

Yes. I fear Miliband sees himself as a Man of Destiny, a self-appointed agent of socialist progress, who will save the world from the (mythical) Climate Emergency caused by capitalism…

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
1 month ago
Reply to  Norman

Rectitude? The property of being a rectum?

Norman
Norman
1 month ago
Reply to  rhoda klapp

Alli oop.

andyf
andyf
1 month ago
Reply to  John

The EU was always a great source of second careers for failed politicians so it’s not surprising that TTK wants the EU back. Continued deference to the ECHR is also a career builder as gives lawyers a second bite of the cherry.

JuliaM
JuliaM
1 month ago

A big fish in a particularly shallow and minnow-filled pond

Grist
Grist
1 month ago
Reply to  JuliaM

More like a damp patch, Julia…

Michael van der Riet
Michael van der Riet
1 month ago
Reply to  JuliaM

I was thinking more of a toad in a ditch.

Martin Near The M25
Martin Near The M25
1 month ago

Article is self mocking, which saved me time on a busy morning. I wonder what reason they have for publishing it a month before the worst prime minister ever probably gets the worst local election results ever.

Ottokring
Ottokring
1 month ago

Yet another half witted blather from Gaby

“In fairness to Starmer, the last election came arguably too early for him, catching Labour only halfway through its cycle of political renewal”

What sort of crap is this ? Spanner had 4 years to prepare . From 2022 it was a dead certainty that Labour would win the next election. Sunak, being a twat, thought he could wrong foot everyone by calling an election in July instead of September 2024, that was the only ‘too early’.

As John says, Spanner believes in nothing. He had no Grand Strategy because he realised that all he had to do was not make an arse of himself and the election would fall into his lap.

Two Kitchens Milliwatt studied Al Gore and realised that this grift was going to keep him relevant when his brother became leader of the party.

The fact that he is the intellectual Titan amongst the cabinet really is terrifying.

PiP Community Leader
PiP Community Leader
1 month ago
Reply to  Ottokring

Later on The Times revealed that he was really Three Kitchens Miliband. (And presumably he has more at his constituency house.)

John B
John B
1 month ago

Deep thinker… the new term for psychopath?

Grist
Grist
1 month ago

I’m not sure that’s right.

I’ve never heard him say “42”…

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
1 month ago

“Still, why Miliband, rather than someone from the party’s formerly dominant right? The answer is partly that the Greens’ victory in Gorton and Denton, combined with the downfall of McSweeney and his mentor Peter Mandelson, is pulling Labour’s centre of gravity inexorably to the left.”

Jesus Christ. By-elections are weird results. It’s in a pretty solid lefty area. And the local Muslims aligned with the Greens this time.

I’m not a fan of Starmer, but in terms of winning an election, it’s him, Hilary Benn or Yvette Cooper. I’m not saying they’re good, but at least get over the low bar of passing a Voight-Kampff test.

Miliband always strikes me as the classic wonk. Has lots of ideas, but doesn’t know the street reality of them. Like renewables. Sound good on the surface, and who doesn’t want cheap, clean energy? But they don’t work because they’re intermittent. And options like batteries are insanely expensive. The wind/solar electrolysis thing might, but lots of people don’t want that because there’s this mad idea about creating lots of jobs from renewables in the UK and wind/solar electrolysis means putting the capacity in windy/sunny places where the land is utterly useless (like southern Spain, Arizona, Tierra del Fuego) and not NHS hospitals on Orkney.

Addolff
Addolff
1 month ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

“Miliband always strikes me as the classic wonk”.
Born again religious zealot more like – ‘Fuck all the evidence that what I believe is a complete load of bollocks, I have faith and will never consider that what I believe is wrong’.

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
1 month ago
Reply to  Addolff

People give politicians and their lackeys far too much credit. Yes Minister, House of Cards.

I’ve met quite a lot of MPs, and I believe most of them are good-hearted people, who believe they are helping the country. But they’re not very bright, not very hard-working and generally only there because of family wealth or unions paying for them to be there.

They do what they think is “hard work” like going and visiting a school to talk about their work, or travelling half way across the country to do a photo op in a hard hat, but I doubt any of them got the solar people in and said “OK, so what happens when the sun doesn’t shine” and went over that in detail.

Chris Miller
Chris Miller
1 month ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

Since they almost all have Law or PPE degrees, they wouldn’t be able to understand the answer.

Mark
Mark
1 month ago

Well damn, we’re in really deep thinker here!

Longrider
Longrider
1 month ago

As mentioned over at my place – if Milliband is your answer, you are asking the wrong question.

Charlie Suet
Charlie Suet
1 month ago

There was really nothing wrong with that old Mail story about Ralph Miliband hating Britain. As a rabid Marxist he very much did. And his idiot son kept trying to hold the old fool up as a symbol of his intellectual credentials, so he was fair game. The image Labour was trying to push was that he was raised in some sort of hot house, but you weren’t allowed to interrogate that.

Then there’s way the lefty media used to try and tell us how clever Miliband was because he was reading lefty books that he already agreed with.

It’s amazing how they push these little pets of theirs: Miliband, Robin Cook, Gordon Brown etc etc. If they had any real background in history or economics they wouldn’t have joined the Labour Party,

Norman
Norman
1 month ago
Reply to  Charlie Suet

Torsten Fucking Bell.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
1 month ago
Reply to  Norman

He doesn’t use his middle name.

dearieme
dearieme
1 month ago
Reply to  Charlie Suet

My Robin Cook story: when I was fresher a new pal said “I’ve just met a bloke I’ve not seen since primary school.” I asked “Has he changed much?”
“Oh no, he’s still a shit.”

Ottokring
Ottokring
1 month ago
Reply to  dearieme

Huh, disgraceful

As Mr Cook would say “Eeeugannahoopinyanninfulm.”

Hope that clears it up once and for all.

Bloke in South Dorset
Bloke in South Dorset
1 month ago

As the great Stephen Potter said, “you call that a thought?”

philip
philip
1 month ago

Big ideas are back?!
Why wasn’t I told?

The Original Jim
The Original Jim
1 month ago

For some reason this came to mind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLT6Myy-_UA

Chris Miller
Chris Miller
1 month ago

There’s a very serious chance (increasing every winter) that Miliband’s monomaniacal pursuit of Net Zero will leave us all shivering in the cold and dark. If that happens there’s no way back for his political career as his fingerprints will be all over it.

Norman
Norman
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris Miller

We hope, and one would expect, but it hasn’t happened yet. The twat keeps getting away with it. When do we reach the critical windmill mass that an ordinary doldrums will overcome? Or will it be that day with little white puffy Teletubby clouds that trips the solar farms?

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris Miller

The thing with all this stuff is that most of the public are too lazy to get into the details of it. They’re surrounded by media, politicians and so forth all telling them it’s possible.

Once a narrative forms, a lot of people don’t go looking behind the curtain. I know people who say “we should use more renewables” but when you say “that would be great but what happens if the sun doesn’t shine” they don’t know. Most people don’t know how much conventional backup there is.

It’s why you get bubble bursts, shocks. You can keep throwing money at propping something up but eventually, you run out of money. At that point, the fraud is revealed. And everyone who believed it bails out overnight.

Norman
Norman
1 month ago

OT: McSweeney’s “lost” phone (sounds to me like he threw it away. Or his dog ate it). I don’t know about Androids but if it was an iPhone, and signed into an iCloud account (almost certain) then it would have been backed up to iCloud by default, unless this was deliberately switched off. In which case, those messages would miraculously reappear on its replacement, if set up from the iCloud backup, which is what you’d do.

If it was not signed into iCloud, but instead had a load of government woo-woo security on it, this ought to have included a backup. No?

If these messages were in WhatsApp then all McSweeney has to do is sign another device into the account, and voilà.

So why is everyone blathering that these messages have been “lost” when they almost certainly haven’t?

Last edited 1 month ago by Norman
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