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A toad is a perfect tenner’: experts recommend wild candidates for new banknotes

We have experts in what should be on banknotes now?

Tony Juniper…Chris Packham….Lucy Lapwing….Isabella Tree….Hannah Bourne-Taylor….

The Guardian’s continued linguistic degradation. “Expert” now means “Nutter we like”.

Anyway, the Wren:

For the £50 note, as that’s what it’s worth after 80 years of fiat money and MMT.

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Grist
Grist
1 month ago

Packham should be in a padded cell. He’s an ideal BBC man, which is reason enough. His hypocrisy is off the scale. A true climate change/gerbil warping zealot and a socialist to the core, he runs a very exclusive and very expensive tour company that will fly you round the world in luxury to places that Paki likes to go for only tens of thousands of pounds…
I’ve not heard of the other a-holes, but then I’m a far right, free market, capitalist loving bastard. Thank God…

jgh
jgh
1 month ago

Yep, bring back the Wren.

Addolff
Addolff
1 month ago

I mentioned this elsewhere – why don’t they cut to the chase and do what they really want to do and put a picture of a mosque on the notes…….

Interested
Interested
1 month ago
Reply to  Addolff

Or Mohammed.

Addolff
Addolff
1 month ago
Reply to  Interested

I thought about Mo but know the ropers won’t wear it, so suggested the next best thing.
I do wonder why there is just so much pandering to the ropers? They are around 6% of the population with about one third of that under the age of 18, and dominant in some areas but vastly outnumbered in the country as a whole.

John
John
1 month ago
Reply to  Addolff

The precise reason might be open to dispute but no-one can deny they have the power of the state behind them.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago
Reply to  Addolff

Probably more like 8% now.

As for the pandering, the RoPers are a noisy minority with a strong sense of victimhood, and leftoids see RoPers as a locus of resistance to the West.

John
John
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

Following on from the Trafalgar Square takeover we then had 30,000 bringing their towels along to a Birmingham park for a display of religious domination. Whoever is directing the psyops is doing a bang-up job.

Norman
Norman
1 month ago
Reply to  Addolff

It’s time to revisit Kosovo. Serbs clearing out mozzers. Perhaps Milošević knew a thing or two. Notable how the real underlying dynamic was carefully hidden from us.

Addolff
Addolff
1 month ago
Reply to  Norman

Spot on Norman. He saw that the ropers were coming out of the ‘safe haven’ of Srebrenica protected by UN (Dutch) ‘peacekeepers, slaughtering non moslems, and then fleeing back into the safe haven.

M
M
1 month ago
Reply to  Addolff

Weren’t there some UN Dutch peacekeepers charged with rape and trafficking some time after that due to actions in Africa?
Or perhaps they were “Dutch”.

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bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 month ago
Reply to  Norman

I didn’t have any problems with Milošević. On the other hand, I don’t have much problem with Anders Breivik. Maybe that’s because I tilt very mildly to the right. And believe in doing unto others what they’re doing to me. Preferably pre-emptively.

(WTF’s happening with this comment field? I just tried to copy/paste something & every word I’d typed before.got the first letter retrospectively capitalised in the unchanged font. Quite odd. What could make it do that?)

Bloke in South Dorset
Bloke in South Dorset
1 month ago
Reply to  Norman

Yes, I was never convinced that we should have got involved in that conflict.

Chris Miller
Chris Miller
1 month ago
Reply to  Addolff

Those are the official numbers. We know that there are millions of people living in Britain who aren’t recorded by the census, I doubt that their religions faithfully mirror those who are ‘on the books’.

Tractor Gent
Tractor Gent
1 month ago
Reply to  Addolff

The golden dome in Qom…

Ottokring
Ottokring
1 month ago

How about Famous British Traitors :

Casement, William Joyce, Burgess, McLean, Philby, Harold Wilson… The list is endless…

John
John
1 month ago
Reply to  Ottokring

Can anyone break up a Cameron for something smaller? Two Mays would be fine.

Norman
Norman
1 month ago

It’s all so obvious, isn’t it?

Why stop at animals? How about a picture of 3,000 mozzers praying in Trafalgar Square?

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago
Reply to  Norman

Yes, on toilet paper.

Michael van der Riet
Michael van der Riet
1 month ago

A toad is suggested by someone who never outgrew The Wind in the Willows.

PS why do you hate me so much that I’m not even allowed to upvote the comments of others?

Last edited 1 month ago by Michael van der Riet
Ltw
Ltw
1 month ago

I can’t either Michael. I’m sure it’s being worked on.

Me
Me
1 month ago

It’s probably because your are a cunt

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago

A nation-state is defined by its history, not its wildlife. Wildlife on banknotes – rather than Churchill, Wellington, Nelson, Newton, Darwin, Shakespeare, et al – is cultural erasure in the (unspoken) name of ‘social cohesion’ – ie not ‘offending’ anti-Westerners and left-liberal drips with post-colonial guilt.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

Or try Samuel Coleridge-Taylor, Dido Belle, Trevor Philips and Frank Bruno. Did we already have Mary Seacole?

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago
Reply to  rhoda klapp

I raise you Richard the Lionheart – as a fine crusader. And the Royal Navy’s West Africa Squadron – which freed 150,000 black slaves at huge financial cost and 1500+ sailors’ lives.

Nautical Nick
Nautical Nick
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

I was about to suggest Richard I myself!

Me
Me
1 month ago
Reply to  Nautical Nick

A shirtlifting cunt of the first order. Couldn’t speak English and spent about 6 months in England as its King. A total waster.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago
Reply to  Me

Hard to say at this distance whether Dickie the Muslim-slayer was a shirt-lifter…

Me
Me
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

Not hard to say at all. I just said it. Quite easy.

jgh
jgh
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

Well, before 1960 we had a lion, Before that just writing and squiggles.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago
Reply to  jgh

Images make forgery harder…

Bloke in South Dorset
Bloke in South Dorset
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

I’m surprised it’s still worth forging sterling.

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

This is why it’s happened. There isn’t really anyone “great” and “dead” who is brown and everyone is scared of being called a racist. Or, that if they put Mary Seacole on, everyone will else will criticise them of being tokenists.

Lots of brown people don’t care. There’s a noisy activist wanker segment of brown Britons that will put on a kente hat and call their kid Akosua and pretend to be African, bang on about black culture, even though they were born here, called Robert and grew up watching Blue Peter, but lots of brown people are quietly getting on with life and enjoying whatever is good.

Do we refuse to watch Idris Elba movies, not eat curries, not buy Daley Thompson’s Decathlon? No. So why do people assume that brown people are any different? That they won’t watch Emily Blunt, play games with Italian plumbers and enjoy trifle because that’s honky stuff? Can I respect the bravery of Johnson Beharry for his VC? So why can’t non-white people respect the Cockleshell Heroes?

White people who follow this narrative are basically saying that non-white people are racist. That they can’t be impressed with Brunel, Agatha Christie, Francis Crick and Lord Nelson. And it’s just not my experience at all.

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Marius
Marius
1 month ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

Very true. The social group “White people who follow this narrative” is basically the same cunts responsible for everything that is wrong with the country,

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
1 month ago

Can you get a beaver for £20? Maybe in some rough places up north, I suppose.

We should try and ballot stuff all the fnarr fnarr ones. Beaver, Goose, Cock, Clam.

JuliaM
JuliaM
1 month ago

If it was left up to the ‘Guardian’ we’d probably only have invasive foreign species on the notes.

Addolff
Addolff
1 month ago
Reply to  JuliaM

Yeah, moslems.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago
Reply to  Addolff

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PiP Supreme Leader (not defunct)
PiP Supreme Leader (not defunct)
1 month ago

Could we have an oak, a Scots pine, a shamrock, and something for Wales?

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago

For Wales, a tethered sheep?

PiP Supreme Leader (not defunct)
PiP Supreme Leader (not defunct)
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

I was thinking more of a daffodil.

Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

No no theo, thats far too much temptation for the Mooohamedans

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

Muslims prefer goats. In Wales, a tethered sheep is a leisure centre.

Bloke in Callao
Bloke in Callao
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

In wellies?

John
John
1 month ago

I’m only surprised the ubiquitous Paddington Bear hasn’t already clinched the gig, holding a pride flag.

PJF
PJF
1 month ago

That’s true national confidence to put bird shit on your currency. Or maybe it’s an early islamic squiggle. Shit either way.

I think we should bring back the charming old money with its delightful denominations.
And heads on pikes on bridges for treason. All so lovely.

Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
1 month ago

Not a serious suggestion

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bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 month ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

That’s about the going rate for an import child bride, isn’t it?

PJF
PJF
1 month ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

One of the rare exports that one. Terror slag.

dcardno
dcardno
1 month ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

John deLancie?

PJF
PJF
1 month ago
Reply to  dcardno

Que?

Swannypol
Swannypol
1 month ago

Apparently there was a “public consultation”. So anyone expressing a negative opinion is a (right wing) extremist.
So far I haven’t found a single person who even knew about it, let alone worked out how to express their opinion.

But mostly i speak to ordinary people. You can get a vote in favour of whatever you want if you keep it secret and only ask the “correct” people. there were 40k votes all together.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago
Reply to  Swannypol

.

Marius
Marius
1 month ago
Reply to  Swannypol

See also: every other ‘public consultation’ in history.

dcardno
dcardno
1 month ago

I’d think more like the tenner, Tim, but I take your point.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 month ago

For the £50 note, as that’s what it’s worth after 80 years of fiat money and MMT.
A bit of an exaggeration. But.
UK Pound Purchasing Power (1945-2025)

  • Cumulative Price Change: 5,450.52%.
  • Average Inflation Rate: 5.15% per year.
  • Equivalent Value: £100 in 1945 is equivalent in purchasing power to about £5,550.52 in 2025.
  • It is effin horrific, isn’t it. What you’ve got from having an almost complete run of Oxbridge graduate PMs & their hangers on. The point I’ve trying to make. The conventional marker for intelligence isn’t smart. These people haven’t been & aren’t now smart. Even St Margaret barely qualified.
Chris Miller
Chris Miller
1 month ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

So a farthing is worth about 6p. When I bought my first pint in the late 60s, it was under 2/- (probably a bit over in London). Now I struggle to find one under £5.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris Miller

The time preference rate of money is reckoned to be about 5%. So real interest rates over that period should have been at least 10% p/a. A war widow who in 1945 invested her £100 mite in War 3½% bonds would have seen them at around £22 in the 70’s & was it Brown who redeemed them at par? Or Gideon?

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 month ago
Reply to  Tim Worstall

That’s about when Mum died. If her brother, who failed to return in his Wellington over the Western Desert had married, that could have been his widow. They are a despicable ….breed these politicians, aren’t they? At least criminals have some sort of honour & principles. You’d have done better to have had the Cray brothers running the country.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 month ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

Back when her brother was running the Unit Trust business he created & it did the “War Loan Offer” – which exchanged the bonds for income fund units ( which scaled near the top of performance charts) I used to deal with the incomings. Some of the application forms came in with a hand written letter telling how disappointed they’d been with their patriotic “investments”. They were mostly small sums as well. But they weren’t when they bought the bonds, were they?

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 month ago
Reply to  Tim Worstall

Tim. They got skinned. The bonds were dated ’52 & after. People took that as the minimum period they would get the income. I think most of them had been under the impression if they needed their money they could cash them in with the government at par. Regrettably people like that don’t understand the small print. It’s the government. They trusted. In those days people were willing to lay down their lives for their government. Literally..

Chromatistes
Chromatistes
1 month ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

In my early career, I once bought a large chunk (c. £15m nominal) of ‘Old Consols’ at a price of under 15. Gideon redeemed them at par (100). Worse trades have occurred …

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 month ago
Reply to  Chromatistes

That means some poor sod sold them at 15, doesn’t it?

Steve
Steve
1 month ago

OT but remember you used to get called all the names under the sun and immediately blocked from social media at the behest of “experts” if you expressed any doubts about the novel injections they tried to force on everyone?

Now they’re admitting they gave children heart inflammation:

The peer-reviewed study — conducted by researchers at the University of Oxford, the University of Bristol, and the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and published in January in the scientific journal Epidemiology — looked at the safety and effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech BNT162b2 COVID-19 vaccine in healthy children ages 5-15 following the rollout that began in late 2021.

Using data from the OpenSAFELY-TPP database with the blessing of NHS England, the researchers compared the “effectiveness and safety of: (1) the first vaccine dose versus no vaccination and (2) a second dose versus a single dose only.”

Specifically, they compared 141,711 children ages 5-11 and 410,463 adolescents ages 12-15 who were given a first dose of the vaccine with equal numbers of unvaccinated children from the same age groups.

The researchers found that the vaccination provided some benefits, including an “initial protective effect” that waned by 14 weeks as well as a lower incidence of emergency room visits than recorded among the unvaccinated cohort.

They noted, however, that “myocarditis and pericarditis were documented only in the vaccinated groups, with rates of 27 and 10 cases/million after the first and second doses, respectively.”

M
M
1 month ago
Reply to  Steve

That’s an odd finding. It’s almost as if the second dose removed some of the risk of myocarditis and pericarditis.

Though that could be an artifact of small numbers – the actual cases in the study were probably 13 or 14 for one dose and 5 for the second, since there was about 550k children and adolescents combined in the study, i.e. less than one million.

[edit]The actual cases of heart problems would be fewer since it sounds like they had 550k with either one or two doses as against 550k with zero.

Last edited 1 month ago by M
Hallowed Be
Hallowed Be
1 month ago

next time around i expect they will insist it be muntjac deer, grey squirrels, parakeets and yellow legged hornets.

dearieme
dearieme
1 month ago
Reply to  Hallowed Be

muntjac deer, grey squirrels, parakeets”

Oi, you lifted that from A K Haart’s blog. Naughty boy. Plagiarism.

But if you happen to be a black girl it would qualify you to be President of Harvard.

Hallowed Be
Hallowed Be
1 month ago
Reply to  dearieme

looked up to check my spelling of muntjac (i missed the t) but otherwise no. I intially thought of muntjac because i am currently making my way through a haunch of it, and very good it is too Assuming great minds etc will take a look at Haart’s blog.

Last edited 1 month ago by Hallowed Be
Chris Miller
Chris Miller
1 month ago
Reply to  Hallowed Be

Very good eating, HB (as are Roe and Fallow), but unlike a red Deer, a Muntjac haunch won’t provide Sunday lunch for a family of 8.

dearieme
dearieme
1 month ago
Reply to  Hallowed Be

No presidency of Harvard for you, then. It’s a good gig; the plagiarist was reduced back to being a professor and, it is said, still gets paid a million bucks a year.

John
John
1 month ago

Does anyone remember the Brazilian lady who received a gong from pigfucker due to her campaign for more women on British banknotes?

I wonder how she feels about her hard-won gains being discarded in favour of the depiction of a creature with short legs, leathery skin covered in warts and a penchant for eating flies.

Bongo
Bongo
1 month ago

Most of those experts are in fact pundits.

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