….while at the same time one third of the MPs in the cabinet and one quarter of MP’s altogether receive funding from organisations sympathetic to Israel.
There is a massive problem with the purchase of influence within the UK government, but it does not come from Iran. The problem is with Israel, which can now be quite reasonably described as the biggest rogue state on earth, and is undoubtedly a greater threat to UK security given the current consequences of its actions in the Middle East.
Sigh.
Clearly, Iran is a worse country, but I don’t like MPs being funded by other countries. They’re going to work for who pays them.
If they do it as well as they do it for us, there’s little to concern you.
Indeed.
The British government has recognised a non-existent Palestinian state, allows the IRGC to operate, allows weekly hate marches which call for the destruction of Israel and Jewish genocide, does nothing to protect Jewish citizens from rising violent anti-semitism and has been zero help to Israel or the US against Iran.
Maybe da Joos aren’t as clever with their money as people make out? Either that or talk of undue Israeli influence in British politics is anti-Semitic bullshit.
Exactly…
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Having smelt parts of Tehran in the past this is right on the money.
Don’t mention the Chinky-chonks. Or, back in the day, the Soviets.
True… The only reason that Iran hasn’t bought itself influence in the UK government is that the Chinese have cornered the market already.
What defines an organisation as being “sympathetic to Israel”? Does he include M&S and Tesco in his list?
I sympathise with Israelis who face a continuous threat of genocide from assorted extremists while disagreeing with Netanyahu.
Any firm where the CEO once ate an Israeli orange etc… No doubt Spud pulled this data from the ‘research’ of some hate-addled pressure group.
john77, that would be defined as any organisation that doesn’t wholeheartly and publicly support BDS.
Matthew 6.24 :
” No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.”
What’s a mammon?
wealth
A kind of hairy elephant.
A French mother
I thought it was a French supermarket.
A gammon with a speech impediment.
Yes, clearly much worse then a Prime Minister paid-oops sorry, has specs ‘n suits donated to him- and a deputy PM/Justice Minister/Whatever he is now who presses for trillions of pounds in reparations to his spiriual brothers for us ending the slave trade-oops, sorry-starting the slave trade in 40BC just after the Industrial Revolution where we started Climate Change/Global Warming/Whatever the Doom Goblin is campaigning against now…
“the biggest rogue state on earth”
Bigger than Uncle Vlad’s Russia? Who we are told is about to invade Western Europe? Bigger than the US who has just attacked several sovereign states without declaring war and killed or kidnapped their leaders? Bigger than the military junta in charge of Sudan who just killed tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of people in a mass genocide?
Nope, got to be the Jews for having the temerity to exist, and to fight back when attacked. Jesus people like Spud make me sick.
Don’t forget the ‘genocide’ they have been committing in Gaza for the last couple of years Jim. Far, far worse than the proper genocide carried out by the Hutu’s in Rwanda – up to a million killed in 100 days.
Cet animal est très méchant; quand on l’attaque, il se défend.
‘The Jews control everything from the shadows’ is one of the oldest antisemitic tropes.
Murphy really is an evil cunt.
‘The Jews control everything from the shadows’ is one of the oldest antisemitic tropes.
Murphy really is an evil cunt.
Perhaps it’s time for the wet ops team from Mossad to take a trip to Ely to see the Cathedral which in its own way is just as impressive as Salisbury.
Just tell them to be a bit more careful than Uncle Vlads goons, my aunt lives in Ely. I wouldn’t want her to be Novichok’d. Though I suspect Mossad deal more in 9mm solutions administered at close range, so she should be safe enough.
You’re right. He should keep his eyes peeled for parked Volvos with dark tints round his estate.
Though the car might contain Van_Patten of this parish…
I expect that went right past you, Theo. It references the partiality Yids of a certain stamp used to have for Volvo estates. One saw a battered 240 round north London one could virtually guarantee a black hatted occupant. I think they go in for Oriental metal in the people carrier flavour now. One thing you can guarantee is it won’t be German or Brit. The abhorrence of Kraut is obvious but what did we do to upset them?
I live on the Hasidic superhighway between Stamford Hill and Golders Green. Yes, ancient Japanese people carriers, driven at speed and giving no quarter, drivers on the phone or texting, is still the favoured mode of transport. The old Volvo estates have all died now.
Spud is apoplectic because Israel is an effective barrier to global communism.
Why isn’t funding from the pro-Israel lobby being treated in the same way as that from Iran? Both are neofascist, theocratic states undertaking actions deeply repugnant to those committed to human rights, democracy and justice. That one is apparently favoured, despite that fact is profoundly worrying.
Why don’t we treat our friends like enemies? Candidly this is profoundly worrying to stupid people who tell lies about Israel.
Anyway, it’s undeniably true Aunty Semitism is the hot new craze on the left. They’re open about it now, the same public sector goodthinkers who were previously putting gender pronouns in their email signatures and triple masked and vaxxed are now telling me over dinner that the BBC is Zionist propaganda. Hmm.
The Gaza war had a herding effect on the Left, similar to how the murders by Axel Rutabaga were an emotional tipping point for much of the long suffering British population. Or the cultural revolution of 2020 that preceded it, IYKWIM? The 21st century is one of constant social crisis, no? A struggle session. But you catch your breath when people who were previously talking about how great Net Zero, LGBTQ and “refugees” are start telling you about “the Jews”. And not as in “the Jews are funny”. The socialism of fools is back, baby, and now it’s on Tik Tok.
Did you ask them *when* the BBC became Zionist propaganda?
I find it hilarious to ask that sort of question – over here the FBI and the DOJ are horrible, racist institutions subverting the rule of law . . . all of a sudden come Jan 2025;)
In Dec of 2024 they were fine upstanding people protecting America from domestic enemies.
How many of them receive funding from organizations sympathetic to the EU?
It would be nice if someone would fund MPs to be sympathetic to the UK.
Well, I can dream, can’t I?
I am delighted to reassure you that MPs are already so funded. They get a salary of about £93,904
But they get their salary whether pro or anti UK. The SNP MPs will miss their salary if they get indy I suppose, but the point of outside funding of the type being discussed is that it has some conditionality attached to it, at least implicitly.
He’s playing up to the Greens, isn’t he?
Somebody explain to me why any MP should be getting financial support from anyone, let alone organisations with an agenda.
It’s why they took the job.
Yes, this is why Muslims are persecuted and Jews are not in the grate state of UK.
/sarc
Can anyone explain why any critic of actions of the Israeli government must be antisemitic?
Antisemitism is a euphemism for Jew-hating and Jew-bating. I can see that it’s likely that such people will express a dim view of the Israeli government. But such a dim view can also be taken by people with no animus against Jews.
I’m damned if I can see any justification for the claim that someone who disparages the Israeli government must necessarily be a hater and bater. The claim seems to me to be at best unreflective and, almost certainly, usually dishonest.
I’ve no problem with anyone making argued criticism of the Israeli government, But someone who describes Israel as “the biggest rogue state on earth, and undoubtedly a threat to UK security” is either a moron or antisemitic. (Not necessarily exclusive options.)
It’s also antisemitism to systematically hold Jews to a higher standard than you apply to others.
This. If you want to call the Israeli state to account for its actions, which you consider beyond the pale, then you must also do likewise for all other countries that act in a similar way. Ignoring every other case of State sanctioned brutality in the world and focussing solely on the uniquely evil actions of the Israeli State would suggest your animus is with Jews themselves, not their behaviour.
“…seems to me to be at best unreflective and, almost certainly, usually dishonest.”
You do realise this comes from the Holy See of Ely, right?
The occupant is a Professional Communist, so it’s definitely “both”.
Its not ‘any critic’. But the critics always have a pattern of ignoring Israel’s actual conduct – which is cleaner than any Western military since . . . before WW1 and ignoring and downplaying the actions of Israel’s enemies.
Israel is always accused of doing things its not doing and usually the things its not doing are the things its enemies are actively doing – but its all Israel’s fault that they are doing them.
So when its always ‘Israelis wrong’ you start to think that there isn’t any actual principled criticism of the nation of Israel, but its actually just bog-standard Jew hate.
Then you have the people who think Israel should not be allowed to exist – because everyone else except Jews can have a territory?
So IMO ‘anti-zionism’ is the same as ‘anti-semitism’.
…but it’s rooted in the highly principled belief that the sectarian products of british colonial meddling should be dismantled. It’s purely a matter of cost-effective prioritisation that the Six Counties and the Zionist Entity are at the top of the list and that the Islamic Republics of Pakistan and Bangladesh are deferred for later consideration
Why would you criticize a government in existential peril?
Unless . . . .
Kick ’em while they are down is not what decent people do.
Throughout history – before Israel was formed – Jews have been targeted and wiped out. Many different excuses. The current excuse is “Israel!” Tomorrow it will be something else.
So, if you were dealing with honest and honorable people, sure, they can argue that Zionism and Jewishness are different, and that their ire is reserved for Zionism. But they’re not. Honest and honorable, I mean. Zionism is just today’s excuse.
If he genuinely thinks Israel is a greater threat to stability in the Middle East than Iran, he is not only a dangerous fool, but an evil one.
How many Brits have been killed by Israelis in the last 50 years?
How many have been killed by Iranians?
Well, it depends on what you call a “Brit”. A surprising number of people in that theatre, in all respects indistinguishable from the locals, have British citizenship.