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Opening new oil and gas fields in the North Sea would “send a shock wave around the world”, imperilling international climate targets, undermining the UK’s climate leadership and encouraging developing countries to exploit their own fossil fuel reserves, experts have warned.

Apparently we are such beacons of light and hope to hte more benighted parts of the planet that we should still be running them. Look, everyone, just do as we do.

The UK government is under stiff pressure from the oil industry, the Conservatives, Nigel Farage’s Reform UK party, some trade unions and parts of the Treasury to give the green light to new oil and gas fields, despite clear evidence that doing so would not cut prices and would have almost no effect on imports.

Two of the biggest fields remaining in the North Sea, which is more than 90% depleted and where the last pockets are increasingly costly and energy-intensive to extract, are within the licensing system. But the Rosebank and Jackdaw fields, if exploited, would displace only 1% and 2% respectively of the UK’s gas imports, research has shown.

It’s difficult to grasp the logic here, eh? They’re trivial, don;t mean much, there’s not much there. OK, I guess – but why, if they’re trivial, are you getting so pissy about it?

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Addolff
Addolff
9 days ago

You cannot argue with these lunatics Tim.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
9 days ago
Reply to  Addolff

We may not be able to argue with such loons, but we must volubly argue against their cretinous views, because, otherwise, their rampant idiocy will convince the gullible and the loons will triumph…

Ottokring
Ottokring
9 days ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

Bit late there, Theo.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
9 days ago
Reply to  Ottokring

That’s a counsel of despair.

decnine
decnine
9 days ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

Get the Pope to have a word with Ed. Leo is certain that every hard problem can be solved by negotiation.

Interested
Interested
9 days ago

In a world of plenty, people are much harder to control.

Ottokring
Ottokring
9 days ago

“Research has shown” = I asked the barmaid at the Dog and Duck.

Logic is a natural resource in very scarce supply. Greens and Socialists have not hit a vein in this material in a very long time.

Dan Souter
Dan Souter
9 days ago
Reply to  Ottokring

That was the first mistake. The barmaid at The Red Lion might not know much about climate change, but she has a much better understanding of historical glacial ice cores.

Bloke in Callao
Bloke in Callao
9 days ago
Reply to  Dan Souter

And she’s got big tits.

Dan Souter
Dan Souter
9 days ago

No. That’s the lass at the Slug and Lettuce.

Bloke in South Dorset
Bloke in South Dorset
9 days ago
Reply to  Ottokring

Barmaid? No Guardian Environment writer would listen to ‘the help’. Especially now the actual workers are going all Reformy.

What “research has shown” means is ‘my friends in north London’ or ‘my feed on BlueSky’.

Martin Near The M25
Martin Near The M25
9 days ago

Anybody would think they were shameless liars or something.

Marius
Marius
9 days ago

Nicolas Stern, a professor at the London School of Economics, said: “New drilling and decelerating climate action would be bad for growth

He lies and knows he lies. Which makes his Stern Report less valuable than bog roll.

Africa would “reject any proposal for the UK to expand oil drilling” 

I don’t think that even Traitor Hermer plans to ask spearchucking reparations grifters for their opinion on UK energy policy.

asiaseen
asiaseen
9 days ago
Reply to  Marius

“New drilling and decelerating climate action would be bad for growth…of my grifting.

FIFY

Marius
Marius
9 days ago

Funny how new oil and gas fields will, at the same time, make no difference to the British economy and create a global shock wave.

dearieme
dearieme
9 days ago
Reply to  Marius

We can now add the expression “magic fluids” to the handy “magic dirt”.

dcardno
dcardno
9 days ago
Reply to  dearieme

…and you know why, Mandrake? I deny them my magic fluids…”

Mike Finn
Mike Finn
9 days ago

All we need to do is consider what would happen if every country applied the same logic of preventing new fossil fuel exploration. We might consider how that “war on drugs” worked out, though this would likely be orders of magnitude more so.

It’s just inconsistent (not to mention intellectually dishonest) to ban something in one place because of perceived harm elsewhere, but allow it to be done everywhere else (and import it) causing the same harm anyway.

…besides which any media article including the phrase “research has shown” should be immediately flagged as propoganda and treated accordingly.

Gamecock
Gamecock
9 days ago
Reply to  Mike Finn

And ‘experts have warned.’

PJF
PJF
9 days ago

Introduction of anti-biotics will imperil witch-doctory, experts say.

Grist
Grist
9 days ago

No wonder they wanted control of education first. At the youngest Grist’s behest, I read one of his books “explaining the physics of climate change”. When I was at school 60 years ago, we realised that Isaac was right and so was Albert, just that Isaac was thinking of a very special case and Albert, despite calling his theory “special” was actually talking about something much more general as he later admitted. But this book was related to both these physicists as much as next door’s cat is related to the fairies at the bottom of my garden. Clue; the people next door don’t have a cat.
And the people at the bottom of my garden are moving in to the garden at Number 10 next week…

Norman
Norman
9 days ago
Reply to  Grist

“Travellers”, are they? They seem to be quite good a that.

Andrew C
Andrew C
9 days ago

“experts have warned” “research has shown.”

I wonder if these experts have ever researched something where the research reaches a conclusion different from the one they were anticipating.

Esteban
Esteban
9 days ago

So, this would “imperil international climate targets, undermine the UK’s climate leadership and encourage developing countries to exploit their own fossil fuel reserves”?

I’m already in favor, you don’t have to sell me.

Swannypol
Swannypol
9 days ago

2 different things concatenated to make an argument.
The last 2 with licences are difficult to get at are trivial. Elsewhere, unlicensed because “green loons” but viable, is enough to power the UK for 20-30 years. or 40-50 if we frack.

Which (ahem) would be plently long enough to see us right through the “green energy transition period” and mean that while we are building windmills and sunflower farms we dont have to import fossils from abroad with consequent risk, higher price, and environmetal cost of transportation.

So we can have lots of cheap reliable UK sourced energy, while building all the facilities for expensive unreliable restricted UK based energy.

We should obviously do that. Well definitely the first bit anyway, no hurry on the second part.

Gamecock
Gamecock
9 days ago

One senior African negotiator, speaking on condition of anonymity

Gamecock thinks that, even if we had his name, he’d still be anonymous.

Gamecock
Gamecock
9 days ago

UK’s climate leadership is their source of power. It is nonsense. But effective.

This is not about oil and gas. It’s about government power to control the industry. That’s what they fear losing. That’s why they are getting so pissy about it.

encouraging developing countries to exploit their own fossil fuel reserves

As if the world gives a shit about what UK does. British imperialism never dies.

Matt
Matt
9 days ago
Reply to  Gamecock

Funny how there’s a near 100% overlap between the “we should be ashamed of colonialism” and “UK should show climate leadership” brigades.

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
9 days ago

This is part of a general thing that (and I don’t have a better term right now) I might describe as Globalist Treachery.

We used to be an empire, we owned lots of overseas places, were a major world power. In such a position, you send lots of gunboats around, and tear people new arseholes. And you lead the world. Both of these were in our interest, but it was some enlightened self-interest.

We don’t have an empire, but there’s always this talk of “leadership”. Why should we be a huge donor to Ukraine, bigger than France, Italy, Hungary, Romania and Czechia by % GDP? Or second highest number of deaths in Afghanistan?

Is anyone bitching about Germany shutting down their nukes and burning lignite?

These people are traitors. They want to do some jolly world building at the cost to the UK.

john77
john77
9 days ago

I note that they attempt to dismiss the importance of Rosebank *oil*field by comparing its output of *gas* with UK imports of gas, making it look half the size of Jackdaw when it is, in fact, c.20% larger.

Mohave Greenie
Mohave Greenie
9 days ago

Be not dismayed! We here in the US will do the drilling, fracking and extraction for you. Britain, you be you.

Boganboy
Boganboy
9 days ago
Reply to  Mohave Greenie

Can you do it for the Taroom Trough in Queensland??

But be comforted. The Aussie government definitely disagrees with fast-tracking it.

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