Seventhly, there’s also a chance that the obvious corruption of the Orbán years might be addressed. So blatant has been the devotion of funds to his own family that it must be hoped that Orbán himself will be prosecuted. That would be an exceedingly useful precedent, not least in the message it might send to the White House.
The reason you don’t prosecute those leaving power is that if you do then those fearful of being prosecuted won’t leave power…..
No doubt terribly unfair and all that but realpolitik is a thing.
There’s also the possibility that when you leave power, your successors will also then have a go at you.
‘Build golden bridges for your enemy’
Sun Tzu?
Yep
How long until the EU decides Magyar is actually an enemy of managed democracy:
Yet EU leaders should not assume that a Magyar government would mark a clean break with Orbán-era policies. On Ukraine, Tisza’s manifesto is notably thin, beyond opposing Ukraine’s accelerated accession. Magyar has repeatedly stated that he would not reverse Hungary’s current policy of non-support. While he signals an intention to reduce dependence on Russia, his proposed timeline – by 2035 – falls well behind the EU’s 2027 target. Tisza further opposes the Commission’s proposal for the next EU multiannual financial framework (MFF), arguing that it disadvantages Hungary, and rejects the EU migration and asylum pact.
That does give me a higher opinion of him, Steve.
Magyar is as much of a populist as Orban was, he just offers a bit of a more dynamic presentation. Lets face it after 16 years any government is going to be pretty knackered and out of ideas.
Those idiots in Brussels are in for as much of a drubbing from the new guy, once he gets the frozen funds off of them.
77% turnout, apparently which is pretty impressive. Also only three parties in parliament by the looks of things.
His campaign was based on “I’m not Orban”. He’s a little more receptive to the EU, but that could well be just a ruse to get his hands on the frozen funds.
I’ve been quite surprised at how blind the western media has been. As Guido Fawkes points out he’s to the right of Orban on a number of issues, not least immigration, and he’s not a progressive by any stretch of the imagination
Politics in Hungary is weird. John Major is their “centre-left”, Thatcher is their “centre”, Nick Griffin is their “centre-right”. God knows who their far-right are.
Excellent. I am looking forward to the backpedalling from all the throbbers fawning over him.
Thank you for the quote. BBC News at 6 took until the second last sentence of their item to mention the number one issue for voters was , drum roll . . . .the economy. Where have we heard that before.
‘Seventhly?’
Does anyone actually get that far?
His fountain of verbiage goes on and on…
I think the current record is ‘nineteenthly’, one I’m sure he’s keen to break.
I trust that the Tuber is consistent in his opposition to corruption. You know, Clinton, Blair, Biden … Come to think of it, Michael Foot.
That’s progressive corruption and falls under the left’s category of the end justifies the means.
The reason you don’t prosecute those leaving power is that if you do then those fearful of being prosecuted won’t leave power…..
As SleepyJoe’s cronies are finding out
There’s lots of wibbling on about how Trump won’t leave power and what do we do then?
Yet, the people not leaving power are Obama and his pets. Yes, Biden’s era was more Obama.
It’s projection.
This was my favourite one of the ‘lys’ – number four – where the scales really fall:
‘Fourthly, Hungary’s veto on many actions within the European Union will now disappear, removing much of the neo fascist threat within it now that both Poland and Hungary have been pulled back from their fascist direction of travel.’
So he’s quite happy with totalitarianism if its supranational in nature, as with the EU? But if countries do it themselves, that’s ‘neo-fascist’?
What an absolute piece of s%^& he is.
He’s in favour of the Right People™ being in charge. Namely himself, and possibly Steve Keen, whoever the fuck that is.
Not our Steve, I’m guessing.
Keen is at least literate and able to hold a civilised discussion. He is however, the Godfather of ‘MMT’ – the ideology also advocated by Murphy which has caused such a calamity globally.
??? MMT references don’t mention Keen.
GC – probably ‘Godfather’ the wrong term but he is a prominent proponent, most notably of the idea that taxes don’t fund spending for governments.
I assume Murphy has proof to back up his allegations. Without them a liable suit could stick.
It’s OK, he can defend himself against those.
Seventhly
It is a parody. He isn’t real. This is all one big simulation.
Murphy supported Biden, whose crackhead son got millions of dollars from the state oil company of Ukraine in return for who knows what.
And that barely scratches the surface of the industrial scale fraud that has been going on for years in the US in support of Democrat candidates.
Tumbleweed from Ely’s fattest cunt.
Murphy claims to think Trump is a fascist dictator, more or less. If you send messages to fascist dictators indicating that you might arrest them as soon as they leave office (as though that isn’t the plan anyway), do they ever leave office?
Murphy doesn’t believe his own bullshit.
Slightly O/T, but I take Prospect for shit and giggles. Today’s edition has Rusbridger discussing the Donald’s mental health. Apparently US media are suppressing evidence of hid dementia, because the NYT and WaPo are such huge fans. While, of course, nothing was ever said on either side of the Atlantic about the obvious catastrophic decline in Biden. Hilarious.
Nor what a bitch Hilary is.
“So blatant has been the devotion of funds to his own family that it must be hoped that Orbán himself will be prosecuted.”
I’ll go along with that, as long as the Blair family get the same treatment……
I’m not sure how much the Bliars have lifted from the public purse, it looks like a lot of the ill-gotten gains come from sucking up to dictators across the globe (and particularly in the ‘Stans) and a bit of work on the rubber chicken circuit stateside. Now the Kinnocks OTOH …
Yes but could he show it was not the proceeds of crime, or indeed the result of money laundering? Blair seems to have far more money than a former ex-PM should have, given the salary he made as PM. I think a forensic examination of his finances (and his foundation thingy) is in order, just to be on the safe side.
And as far as I’m aware the Proceeds of Crime Act is one of those strict liability ones where you have to prove yourself innocent rather than vice versa. Given that Act was introduced by one T. Blair Esq, it would be highly amusing to see him having to fight his way out of it.
You know that the argument will be unreadable when you see the word “seventhly”