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Do we really need truncheons and pepper spray to fight off London’s ‘feral’ teenage shoplifters?
Zoe Williams

We could probably do it with an increase – a substantial one – in the number of fathers sticking around to clout their kids over the ear when they think of doing something this damn stupid.

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Bloke in Powys
Bloke in Powys
10 days ago

Try giving your kid a clout round the ear and see what happens to you; I speak from painful experience. Kids are untouchable now, and they know it.

JuliaM
10 days ago

No, the police have all the tools they need, they just need the will to use them, as we can see from the way rowdy football supporters are treated.

JuliaM
10 days ago

Oh, Zoe, no mention of the Waitrose shoplifting incident, and the possible effect of that policy on the social order?

Ottokring
Ottokring
10 days ago
Reply to  JuliaM

I do my shoplifting at Waitrose or M&S. I find I save so much more money compared to when I used to steal stuff from Aldi.

Bloke in Wales
Bloke in Wales
10 days ago

Do we really need truncheons and pepper spray to fight off London’s ‘feral’ teenage shoplifters?

Uzis would be better, and would have the additional benefit of another way for the far left to blame the Jooos!

Grist
Grist
10 days ago
Reply to  Bloke in Wales

I think Heckler and Koch is the favoured weaponry. Much more politically correct than the jooguns

Martin Near The M25
Martin Near The M25
10 days ago

Could try having a few police on the streets. Too radical?

JuliaM
10 days ago

No point in having modern police who are uniformed social workers who agree and sympathise with the shoplifters blaming capitalism for their petty theft! Send us some 70’s coppers who get stuck in!

Addolff
Addolff
9 days ago
Reply to  JuliaM

Bring back the SPG…..

Grist
Grist
10 days ago

Well, Zoe, I think the legal equivalent of truncheons and pepper spray was first used against a Pakistani shopkeeper who tried to stop a black lady from stealing some hair extensions from his shop. Perhaps the first sign the Plod had moved on from ignoring shoplifting to helping the thieves. You know, a bit like from ignoring racist hate marches to making sure the marchers weren’t annoyed by he “far right”…

Marius
Marius
10 days ago

I would love Zoe Williams to become the victim of feral robbing teenagers.

I don’t claim this is good or nice, but that’s where I am.

Interested
Interested
10 days ago
Reply to  Marius

I have long thought that I would love someone to set up a gofundme to buy the house next to one of these wankers – James O’Brien is my usual go-to – and move a load of Somalis and Syrians and Afghans in there. I would set up cameras in the street and broadcast it and make £££ that way too.

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
10 days ago
Reply to  Marius

The problem is that Britain has become a country divided into “nice places” and “awful places”. We don’t properly police. If you want to live in a low crime area, you spend more money and move to a “nice place” out of proximity of the scumbags. There aren’t feral robbing teenagers in St Albans or Ascot. They can’t afford to live there, the local authority won’t house them there (as it’s too expensive to rent).

This then leads to part of our housing troubles. Once people have spent their money to get away from the scumbags, they absolutely 100% do not want the scumbags moving near them. So will oppose any and every housing development that might bring them to the area.

If you change two things, you’d sort the problems out 1) you make living on benefits really uncomfortable. You encourage women to find good men to have children with, and start to remove chavs from the gene pool. 2) you police properly. No fucking around. Two warnings. Caution, community service, jail. Come out of jail and commit crime, you get 3 times the sentence. And we spend the money to do it, if necessary. But the thing is, it won’t take long for the deterrent effect to kick in. If you know that doing it a few times means getting gang raped in the cells, you might not even do the first one.

Last edited 10 days ago by Western Bloke
Jonathan
Jonathan
10 days ago

At this stage, mass deportations are the sensible, centrist solution.

Interested
Interested
10 days ago

I genuinely have started thinking about shoplifting.

Waitrose are sacking staff who try to stop it, the police aren’t interested, the courts aren’t interested* – it’s at the point where if you’re not doing it you’re just subsidising it.

As with everything else, it’s only once we’ve tipped over into proper societal collapse – with judges and senior cops and MPs and their kids being murdered in the streets by feral yoot – that there’s any hope of fixing this.

*Though they would love to throw the book at someone like me, I suppose.

Norman
Norman
10 days ago
Reply to  Interested

Oh, you’d get it in the neck, pal. So would I, which is why I’m scrupulous.

A few days ago I watched a shoplifter being nicked after stealing from Crouch End Waitrose. At least half a dozen coppers in three vehicles to apprehend a hideous low-end dusky cunt fully hooded up on a warm, bright day. His identical accomplice lurked. You could have clocked them for wrong ‘uns half a mile away.

I was somewhat surprised at the strength of the police presence but it seemed to take them an age to do anything. Imagine the paperwork, and the cost.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
10 days ago
Reply to  Norman

You could have clocked them for wrong ‘uns half a mile away.

Bring back full on stop and search complete with profiling, AI assisted if it helps.

(When my son was a drummer in a rock band and had dreads, he was stopped at the tube station and seeache for drugs every time he went by tube to play a gig in Brixton, he didn’t have a problem with it).

Norman
Norman
10 days ago
Ottokrng
Ottokrng
10 days ago
Reply to  Norman

I like Gareth Roberts, not just his rants about Dr Who.

This really mde me larf

Zoe is undoubtedly the stupidest of the nags in the Guardian stable

How true

Mohave Greenie
Mohave Greenie
10 days ago
Reply to  Ottokrng

There is some stiff competition there at the Guardian.

John
John
10 days ago
Reply to  Mohave Greenie

I see your Zoe Williams and raise you an Aditya Chakrabotty.

If that doesn’t make you fold I can always play my Rhiannon Lucy Coslett or even my Polly Toynbee.

All together now:-

“You got to know when to hold ‘em
Know when to fold ‘em
Know when to walk away and
Know when to run”.

Last edited 10 days ago by John
Gamecock
Gamecock
10 days ago

Welcome to broken window effect on high street.

andyf
andyf
10 days ago

If the police don’t use weapons to keep them at arms length they would have to touch them. This undoubtably would result in them being suspended whilst “claims” of sexual assault were investigated.

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