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Rightwing populism is littered with broken promises. Its opponents need to make those failures count
Andy Beckett

Of course this is trivia as compared to left wing populism. Those extravagant promises of the 1940s have left us saddled, 80 years later, with one of the worst health care services in Western Europe for example….

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Grist
Grist
15 days ago

Right wing populism is a very bad thing. In a democracy, being popular would lead to you being elected. And then where would the Lefties be?

Charles
Charles
15 days ago
Reply to  Grist

Populism is not merely being poular. It means taking positions which are superficially attractive but fundamentally flawed in the hope that you will get support from people who don’t realise the difference. For example, advocating tariffs on imports to favour local manufacture and thereby make the country much more prosperous. Or rent controls, or VAT on school fees to promote equality.

John
John
15 days ago

Howโ€™s that Right-Wing populism working out in Argentina and El Salvador? The only two countries I can immediately think of where it has been given a chance by the electorate and thankfully spared the unlawful intervention of the eu or a statist judiciary when the plebs vote the wrong way.

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Jonathan
Jonathan
15 days ago

TBH he has a point. Are Nige seems to make policy on the hoof while none of his team appear to have much grasp of the detail, or the difficulties of actual implementation. Trump is much the same but at least has a team around him who can get some things done – mass deportations for instance.

Grikath
Grikath
15 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

As opposed to the Grand Strategies of the Progressives and Socialists which intrinsically ignore reality and are pushed through regardless of first, second and third order effects?

Nige at least *can* make things up on the hoof when faced with Reality.
Your average socialist is utterly incapable of even *considering* alternatives if conditions change.

Jonathan
Jonathan
15 days ago
Reply to  Grikath

I’m not saying they’re any better but Reform need to get their act together. What if Starmer decided to resign next month and an election was called; they’d have nothing to offer except vague promises.

Grikath
Grikath
15 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

As opposed to the Serious Promises and Manifestos of the other parties which get dumped as soon as the elections are over?

yeeeaaahhhh….

John
John
15 days ago
Reply to  Grikath

Serious promises to legalise all drugs, release all prisoners, admit and pay a monthly salary to all immigrants and kill the Joos (sorry I mean facilitate the killing of the Joos)?

Because those policies are currently resonating remarkably well with voters (genuine or otherwise) in cities across the country.

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Ottokring
Ottokring
15 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

All they need to do really is list the acts that they are going to repeal.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
15 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

If Starmer went to the King and proposed a GE the Labour Party would quickly point out that as the largest party they have a right to elect a new leader and form a new government.

Thereโ€™s a lot of idiots in the Labour Party but they arenโ€™t suicidal and despite calls for a GE every time the Tories elected a new leader and therefor PM theyโ€™ve demonstrated enough times in this past 2 years they donโ€™t hold themselves to those same standards.

Jonathan
Jonathan
15 days ago

Again, I’m not saying exactly what might trigger an election, just posing a question.

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
15 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

But the public don’t want boring, sensible, thought through politics, or they’d be voting for the Libertarian Party who want to cap housing benefit and close down half the railways, and can explain in detail why. I don’t agree with everything they say, but there is at least some working out around it.

How many people are looking at solar and asking about intermittency? And when someone says batteries, asking for a breakdown of the costs of that.

I wish it weren’t so. I wish that more people reached the age of 35 and realised that government is a shit way to do things, but they don’t. I would love Reform to be BURN DOWN THE STATE to the bare minimum, but they have “procurement policies that favour British producers” (making us all poorer) and “We will ensure our young people are trained in skills that manufacturers need, providing them with fulfilling and well paid jobs” even though government is always a decade or more behind on what employers actually need. Richard Tice wants to end high speed rail, which is great, but instead to piss money away on other rail in the North, despite it all being a fucking waste of money compared to cars and buses. It wants to ban ULEZ and LTNs even though that should be an entirely local matter.

Monorail! Monorail! Monorail!

Last edited 15 days ago by Western Bloke
rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
15 days ago

Populist policies, if right-wing, are sabotaged by unpopulists who then use the failure to demonstrate how populist policies don’t work. Real populism has never been tried.

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
15 days ago

“some Reform-led councils raising rather than cutting taxes”

But when you delve into the Full Fact article, it does point out that on average, they have had lower tax rises than other parties, and actually, that’s what you give a shit about as a voter. Cuts are great, but you’ll still vote for them as “least worst”.

And as Simon Cooke and others point out, local government gets to decide almost nothing. Duties are imposed by central government and often without spending increases to match it.

Boganboy
Boganboy
15 days ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

You’re reminding me of the NDIS here in Oz.

It’s so expensive that the federal government proposes dumping it on the states, and then blaming them for the money wasted or the lack of loot to lavish on the free loaders.

Chris Miller
Chris Miller
15 days ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

Reform are discovering that councils in Britain have very little financial power. Their money comes mostly from central government (and how much they can raise from tax is strictly limited), and simultaneously the bulk of their expenditure (SEND, care homes, police pensions for 40yo Inspectors with suspiciously bad backs living on the Costa Brava) can only be reduced at the margins, if at all.

Reform could do a lot worse than lifting the boot of central government off the necks of councils, whether they will or not remains to be seen.

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
15 days ago
Reply to  Chris Miller

I’m a bag fan of localism in government. Councils collect from rates/council tax, and spend. More power to the (local) people.

wolfie
Michael van der Riet
Michael van der Riet
15 days ago
Reply to  Chris Miller

“Very little financial power.” What’s your threshold for “very little?” A hundred million per council?

Chris Miller
Chris Miller
14 days ago

Councils have lots of money, but relatively little discretion in how it is spent.

Steve
Steve
15 days ago

With some people, you can instantly tell they’re a twat just by looking at them

Andy_Beckett
Paulie
Paulie
15 days ago
Reply to  Steve

Whenever I see that face in the article strap line I think – โ€œcheck his hard driveโ€

John
John
15 days ago
Reply to  Steve

I am the (White) captain now.

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
15 days ago
Reply to  Steve

He reminds me of Mr Mackey in South Park (mmmkay…)

Norman
Norman
13 days ago
Reply to  Steve

Incel.

Swannypol
Swannypol
15 days ago

Are we allowed to claim
“That wasn’t REAL right wing poulism”?

philip
philip
15 days ago

Do you man to tell us that both sets of politicians lie, Timmy? Say it ain’t so!

Marius
Marius
15 days ago

I don’t think the social democrats who have ruined Europe over the past 30 years ought to be asking people to focus on the failures of political parties.

Gamecock
Gamecock
15 days ago

Its opponents need to make those failures count

Just sabotaging them isn’t enough for Andy รก Beckett.

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