Britain can choose to be a partner in that project or accept a role as adjunct. National power could be boosted in an alliance of neighbours with broadly aligned global interests. Or it can be circumscribed by the Brexit cult of sovereignty that sees regulatory harmonisation with Europe as colonisation but welcomes subordination to US tech giants and industrial lobbies, which it calls free trade.
I’d call it Brexit Derangement Syndrome but BDS means something different these days, doesn’t it?
Likely to be the same people suffering from both
What stage of BRExit grief is this?
still denial, always denial
Brexit Derangement Syndrome/Mania, or BDS/M, certainly involves a lot of self-flagellation and dead horse flogging…
Those feelings haven’t gone away. They are more severe because Britain’s capacity to influence global events was diminished, not boosted, by leaving the EU.
When the British Establishment chooses not to protect the British people from Muslim ‘Grooming Gangs’, drug gangs or our children from being murdered by random black people, what a bunch of Eurocrats think of us simply doesn’t matter.
Our capacity to influence global events has been affected much more by lack of spending on the armed forces (particularly the Royal Navy).
The EU’s influence on global events is literally zero. Its leaders’ sole contribution in the past decade has been to insult the nation which protected them from Russia and lick the arse of Chairman Pooh instead.
Given that Remainers are among those most likely to berate Leavers for supposedly clinging on to our imperial past, it is noticeable that they’re also the people most likely to whinge about whether we’re having an impact on global events.
I was a leaver from 1992 and I believe in masterly inactivity, fog across the Channel leaving the continong isolated and wogs staying in Calais.
So did Canada adopt EU policy, or was it the other way ’round?
…the British Establishment chooses not to protect the British people from Muslim ‘Grooming Gangs’, drug gangs or our children from being murdered by random black people…
Starmer performs better in the international arena than on the domestic stage. Even his rivals for the Labour leadership praise the decision not to let Britain get embroiled in the US-Israeli war on Iran. Streeting’s resignation letter singled it out as an example of “courage and statesmanship”. It stands out also as a marker of good judgment against the gung-ho impulses that Nigel Farage and Kemi Badenoch indulged in during the first days of the conflict, and soon regretted.
But the prime minister gets no credit for getting a big foreign-policy call right,
Because he got it wrong. It was not an act of courage in any event, but the act of a shitebag reflexively surrendering to Muslims.
Starmer and the lying media have dishonestly conflated two things,
1) joining the US-Israeli war on Iran as a belligerent, which nobody asked the British government to do, because in any event British military capabilities are hollowed out and largely useless.
2) supporting our only important ally in the world in keeping international sea lanes open against Iran’s (blatantly illegal, btw) attempts to weaponise the strait
The latter did not require going to war with Iran, and the failure of NATO is going to have unpleasant consequences for countries that have now demonstrated their unreliability as supposed “allies” of the United States. Also, the Gulf states are hopping mad at Iran and not impressed with British cowardice. Expect them to spend less money on British arms exports in future, and more on American hardware.
Also, crying that Trump “doesn’t have a plan”, when Cockpiss Starmer’s plan was to allow the Islamic Revolution in Iran to obtain nuclear weapons, doesn’t impress anyone who isn’t slow of thinking. Iran is a huge problem for the world, and problems aren’t solved with denial.
In any case, just because some fuckwit journalist at the bbc can’t figure out the plan, doesn’t mean there isn’t one.
just because some fuckwit journalist at the bbc
can’tdoesn’t want to try figuring out the plan lest it paints Orange Man Bad in anything but the worst possible lightFTFY
How would it be possible to keep the strait open against Iranian military oppositio without joining the war?
In principle it would be a mission supporting freedom of navigation and would be uncoupled from the US/Israeli attacks and their negotiation track. Saudi and the UAE went a stage further than that – their aircraft apparently attacked mainland Iran too, though they were quiet about it until after the event. But neither Saudi nor UAE were officially “in” the US/Israeli war and they aren’t taking direct part in the Pakistan-mediated US-Iran talks, they’re running their own diplomacy tracks (obvs with a degree of coordination with the US one).
No. I don’t see how that works. Suppose Iran says a specific ship cannot use the strait. The ship tries. Iran shoots at it. It seems to me that the only way to prevent Iran doing this is to shoot back and also take further action to prevent even the possibility of future shootings. If ships are in serious danger in transit, they’ll simply not attempt it. So keeping the strait open is exactly the same things as waging war,
I don’t give a fuck about influencing global events, unless someone can explain why we should be somewhere for our interests.
People in the political class love this idea of Britain leading the world, and the thing is, that used to make sense because we owned a large amount of it. We’re more involved in Ukraine than countries near Ukraine. That is purely because of history. That in WW2 we liberated Europe and wasn’t that good, so let’s do it again.
We’re now a fairly small country that no-one wants to go to war with and has few overseas interests, and we trade globally. A little under half of our exports to Europe, a big chunk of the rest to the Americas, and growing trade to Asia and South America. This is very different to the countries in the mainland of Europe where 70+% of their trade is with neighbours.
isn’t this desire to influence global events Colonialism in another guise?
Imperialism. There is a difference. Otherwise, guilty as charged.
You mean the project which has delivered European nations nothing but economic stagnation, a trillion pages of legislation and millions of dusky rape enthusiasts? Do we have to even be an adjunct?
Gosh yes, I remember how much our Eurochums looked out for our shared interests in the pre-2020 time.
Well, the septics produce some useful techy stuff, which we buy. The EU produces overpriced unreliable and ever fuglier motors, which we’ve gone off, funnily enough. Still like the wine of course.
It is hilarious that this dumb cunt thinks “regulatory harmonisation” is a winning offer.
“Still like the wine of course.”
There’s generally better value in Chile and South Africa. I haven’t found an alternative to Italian reds, though.
I haven’t found an alternative to Italian reds, though.
They stand alone, don’t they? Mind you, you have to be careful with some of those Primitivos. Rotgut, if you’re unlucky.
The problem I’m referring to is that when people left Europe and took vines to grow in the rest of the world, they generally took French varieties like cabernet sauvignon, merlot and sauvignon blanc, and not the Italian varieties. So there isn’t much barbera, nebbiolo and sangiovese in the new world. Which feels like an opportunity for someone.
‘the Brexit cult of sovereignty’ AKA the possibility, admittedly remote, that we can kick out the cunts who make the laws we don’t like and elect new ones who will make laws we do like.
These people are wetting their pants in desperation to recreate the British Empire, aren’t they? But for most of its history the people were spilling blood to tell the British Empire to fucking fuck off.
Yeah, but not. All the war, none of the treasure.
Doing things with broadly alligned other nations – yes
Having the EU set all our laws and rules and giving them control of the whole thing – big nope
There people are Thomas Sowell’s “Anointed”. They Know Best, and are furious that in being sidelined by Brexit they have fewer opportunities to virtue signal and boss others about with their superiority.
That their behaviour is about as classist, racist and colonialist as it is possible to be escapes them.
This ‘Merican is bewildered that dingbats bring up return to EU. Brexit won a national referendum. Democracy manifest.
The mere mention of Return should be political suicide. HOW DARE YOU!
Childish ego. British imperialism dies hard. Never dies in some.
‘Collective wealth.’ ‘Strategically focused investment.’ Sounds like commie takeover.
In a small country it’s GDP per capita that matters, not economic might that doesn’t trickle down to the people but goes to support a political agenda.
Oh, and “Abroad is bloody and foreigners are fiends”.
Britain can choose to be a partner in that project or accept a role as adjunct.
Fuck off. I don’t want to be even an adjunct you cunt.
Splendid isolation and mastery inactivity.
It’s the way forward I tells thee.
But make sure you keep your nukes in case somebody tries to activate you.