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Former China defence ministers convicted of corruption in latest purge of military leaders
Ex-defence ministers, Li Shangfu and Wei Fenghe both sentenced to death with a two-year reprieve, among the most severe sentences in a years-long purge

If you are the authoritarian, dictatorial, type, then you’d quite like all your underlings to be corrupt. For when you do want to get rid of them you’ve got the mechanism right there. Plus, hanging a few scares all.

The idea just doesn’t work so well if all are honest.

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Jimmers
Jimmers
1 month ago

Could we use David Lammy and Yvette Cooper as our initial examples?

Ottokring
Ottokring
1 month ago
Reply to  Jimmers

There hasn’t been a gallows built that could take Lammy.

Throwback
Throwback
1 month ago

Thought suspended death sentence just meant hanging.

Gamecock
Gamecock
1 month ago
Reply to  Throwback

Boo.

Marius
Marius
1 month ago

I don’t think Chairman Pooh has any qualms about executing the innocent.

Gamecock
Gamecock
1 month ago
Reply to  Marius

Yep. They don’t need a reason.

“Forget it, Jake, it’s China.”

andyf
andyf
1 month ago

“The idea just doesn’t work so well if all are honest.”

This is never going to be a limiting issue given they are all politicians.

dearieme
dearieme
1 month ago

Let me have men about me that are fat,
Sleek-headed men, and such as sleep o’ nights.

M
M
1 month ago

When a dictator condemns a minister for “corruption” you have to wonder if that’s really the case, or if it’s that the minister is conspiring. Or thought to be.

Which makes it yet another struggle for power.

jgh
jgh
1 month ago
Reply to  M

It’s the Al Capone move. You need to get rid of them, so you build the case you can build rather than the case you can’t.

Gamecock
Gamecock
1 month ago

‘among’

???

Ottokring
Ottokring
1 month ago

So what happens in the intermediate two years ?

Are they set free and then one day a letter turns up: Please report to Huangshin Prison for execution. ?

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 month ago
Reply to  Ottokring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_sentence_with_reprieve

Basically the death part is a suspended sentence, though you still go to prison. Further convictions before the reprieve and it’s curtains. Last the two years out as a good boy, and the reprieve automatically converts your sentence to something more palatable like life imprisonment.

It’s like how you can have a death penalty pardoned or commuted, but instead it’s built in to the sentencing itself with a fixed timing rather than a separate procedure performed later on administrative whim.

PJF
PJF
1 month ago
Reply to  Anonymous

 Last the two years out as a good boy . . .

I should think the good behaviour being encouraged includes no “hung for a sheep as a lamb” spilling of beans, and no revenge plots by families and factions.

Quite a refined tool from a culture steeped in power games and corruption. Indeed, it might even be a self-protection mechanism by those worried about their own fall from grace. Mercy for you, mercy for me.

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 month ago
Reply to  PJF

Indeed. I’m actually surprised at the 2 year bit. I think it’s quite standard and not special to this case, it just feels a weird length bearing in mind anyone given this sentence is in for a long stretch anyway. Anyone know why they don’t make it suspended for, let’s say, 5 years?

asiaseen
asiaseen
1 month ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Or simply just “suspended”. Why put a time limit on it when, save for a major regime change, these guys are never going to leave prison.

Bongo
Bongo
1 month ago

An alien looking down on the world from their starship in 1370 is asked by their co-pilot which culture will be number one when they come back in 700 years. ‘China’ she says. The co-pilot bets on Turkey.
Predictions schmictions.

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