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Might be a certain bias here

Everything always, is the fault of the Proddie Ulstermen. Obviously:

On the other hand, what value democracy if it doesn’t produce what the local population desires?

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grist
grist
1 month ago

As Julia indicated with her comments about the IRA- sorry, Sinn Fein- the attitude to importing violent third world people is a bit of an indicator of the true intentions of people…

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
1 month ago
Reply to  grist

Sinn Fein has gone all in on hard line progressiveness: anti racism, anti Zionism as a mask for anti semitism, pro Hamas, pro open borders and anti working class Irish culture.

Dublin is a tinder box and if it gets sparked it will make the current riots in NI look like a teddy bear’s picnic.

jgh
jgh
1 month ago

If they are anti: Jewish people having their own country, they clearly must logically also be anti: Irish people having their own country.

Baron Jackfield
Baron Jackfield
1 month ago
Reply to  jgh

Logic? Sinn Fein? Surely sirrah, you jest!

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago
Reply to  grist

Sinn Fein-IRA were national socialists – now they seem to be international socialists.

Line Noise
Line Noise
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

Or maybe some politicians are just cvnts ?

But I repeat myself

M
M
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

It’s possible that they were taken over by the people who supplied their weapons at some point.

Henry Crun
Henry Crun
1 month ago

The marching season is going to be interesting this year.

andyf
andyf
1 month ago

The obvious parallel with the troubles is that we have a majority that doesn’t relish being pushed into becoming a minority.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 month ago
Reply to  andyf

No majority ever relished becoming a minority – until it was to late. And the UK is well on the way to becoming majority non-white.

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Gamecock
Gamecock
1 month ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

Here’s why:

Suicidal Empathy: Dying To Be Kind, by Gad Saad.

Grikath
Grikath
1 month ago
Reply to  Gamecock

Not by P. Humous?

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
1 month ago

I don’t actually believe this, in the same way that immigration is the 3rd most important political issue for Labour voters.

Putting myself in the shoes of a Norn Iron republican, they’d like to be part of the Republic. How does that connect to support for mass migration? I’m sure some do, but it doesn’t feel like it has to be the same thing. It’s not like the Republic are particularly lefty (they seem more like free market capitalists than we are now).

Michael van der Riet
Michael van der Riet
1 month ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

Whut?

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
1 month ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

Immigration is worse in the Republic and it’s gonna get worse still north and south. It will tend to unite the indigenes in the same way as two sides in a domestic dispute turn against the police who come to intervene.

Bloke in South Dorset
Bloke in South Dorset
1 month ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

“they’d like to be part of the Republic. How does that connect to support for mass migration”

There’s been huge immigration into the Republic in recent years. Ireland now has a higher percentage of its residents foreign-born than the UK, and 70% of them are non-EU.

Things are starting to kick off about it there as well.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
1 month ago

This is a good piece from the Spectator’s Coffee House about the problems of immigration in South Africa, the original rainbow country after Mandela’s release. It’s worth a read because it’s a story that the left and MSM is studiously ignoring.

This holds true everywhere and not just SA (my emphasis):

The term routinely trotted out for this anti-immigrant angst is ‘xenophobia’. Labelling real and pressing grievances as ‘phobias’ has been one of the left’s most effective ways to dismiss their opponents. But the concerns about resource competition and the breakdown of social cohesion arising from mass migration are more like disquiet, insecurity and frustration rather than fear. Actions sparked by deep-rooted political grievances can often themselves be harmful, misdirected and disproportionate, of course. But this is a distinct problem from the validity of the grievance itself. Take the recent events in Northern Ireland. After a Sudanese man was charged over an alleged knife attack, political leaders condemned the violence that followed. Yet if condemnation is the only response leaders have after such incidents, the public will increasingly sense that official institutions are more comfortable denouncing the reaction than confronting the conditions that produced it.

Boganboy
Boganboy
1 month ago

I’ve always thought we already had a perfectly adequate term for anti-immigrant angst; anti-colonialism.

Charles
Charles
1 month ago
Reply to  Boganboy

No. Colonialism applies to nations (or possibly powerful corporations such as the East India Company) and means that a nation gets to control a foreign place. Ot does not require that the controlling nation has or aims to achive a majority of the population.

Sudan, for example, is not attempting to conquer the UK. The correct work for anti-immigrant sentiment is xenophobia.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles

It’s not what they are or who they are. It’s where they are and how they behave. Same as the problem with colonisers.

Deveril
Deveril
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles

Sudan, for example, is not attempting to conquer the UK.

No need. Our treasonous political class, abetted by people like you, has simply opened the doors and shoved goodies like free housing and underaged girls at them.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles

Read BiNDs comment up a couple of places from here. It explains how the left use xenophobia as a way to denigrate real doubts about the benefits and problems of mass immigration. You’re not on the left, are you Charles?

Gamecock
Gamecock
1 month ago
Reply to  rhoda klapp

Not wanting strangers about isn’t “xenophobia,” it’s COMMON SENSE. So elitist scum Charles tells us to ignore common sense.

Charles is evil. It’s that simple. He hopes for our demise. He says things to get us to accept our demise.

The commie trick to recognize is this isn’t about helping strangers, as he tries to verbally package it, it’s about destroying you. Commies use appeals to pity to gain acceptance of our own destruction. The irony is the commies have no pity – they use YOUR pity against YOU. As written in the Saul Alinski playbook a half-century ago.

New players. Old game.

Charles
Charles
1 month ago
Reply to  Gamecock

I’m not the Communist here. I’m all in favour of the free market. People should be free to come and go, just as people from Birmingham are free to move to Coventry, Portsmouth, London, or even Glasgow. The state should have no role in deciding where people live. It’s Communism which demands such restrictions.

Gamecock
Gamecock
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles

Turd.

People should be free to come and go

That’s just stupid. People from Khartoum and Birmingham are NOT the same. And you know it. You wish us death.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles

Firstly, I suspect that is deliberately provocative. Secondly, if this represents the view of the establishment, which has failed to pay attention to the wishes of the electorate,, then it has an unfortunate air of Lady Bountiful giving freely what is not hers at no moral hazard whereas other people who didn’t want it are the ones who pay the price in over-crowding, housing rights, theft, assault, rape and murder. Unconscionable

Gamecock
Gamecock
1 month ago
Reply to  rhoda klapp

Maybe. I don’t think Charles is a troll. I think he is a twisted dick.

Cirrusly, our mommies taught us to be wary of strangers when we were 2 fooking years old. He comes along and accuses us of IRRATIONAL FEAR. Gaslighting us; insulting our mothers.

Gamecock
Gamecock
1 month ago

In the US, a Fox News host claimed the rioters just wanted to be Irish and “wanted Ireland back”, misunderstanding that the rioters themselves would be horrified by this characterisation.

No true Irishman would riot.

It is the government’s job – raison d’être – to keep these invaders out. They aren’t doing it. So the people are taking action. Observer says, “No! No! You must allow it!”

‘Violence in these communities’ isn’t murderous invaders. No, it’s right wing protestors!

Resistance is futile.

Frank
Frank
1 month ago

Oh, Timmy. What would your Irish granny have to say?

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