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One of those little signals, eh?

Ricardo Gama, a partner at the law firm Leigh Day, which is representing

So we know that argument, whatever it is, is bollocks then, don’t we?

Its consultation proposed that the HSE should be allowed to fast-track chemical hazard classifications from other countries into British law. When the HSE published its response to the consultation findings, it said it would recognise the EU’s standards when adopting such hazard classifications. The EU has the highest standards on chemical safety globally.

But when the government laid the regulations before parliament earlier this year, the EU and its standards were not mentioned. Fighting Dirty is taking legal action against the government over concerns that this omission may expose the public to more hazardous chemicals.

Ricardo Gama, a partner at the law firm Leigh Day, which is representing Fighting Dirty in the proceedings, said the absence of this “safeguard” meant the government, or any future government, “could approve chemicals from places that have lower standards than the UK and EU”.

And, you know, how in buggery did this become justiciable? And who’s paying for it, obviously.

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Ottokring
Ottokring
1 month ago

Ricardo Gama and his brother Vascoda.

Boganboy
Boganboy
1 month ago

In other words, chemical safety in the UK must be controlled by the EU.

And no doubt everything else as well.

john77
john77
1 month ago

For the court to prescribe the actions of future governments would be unconstitutional. Leigh Day should be disbarred.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
1 month ago
Reply to  john77

For the court to prescribe the actions of future governments would be unconstitutional. Leigh Day should be disbarred dismembered.

FTFY

Gamecock
Gamecock
1 month ago

The EU has the highest standards* on chemical safety globally.

Nothing to be proud of. It means unnecessary restrictions and cost.

*’Highest standards’ is conspicuously undefined. I.e., useless bullshit.

Fighting Dirty has said substances classified as human carcinogens by the International Agency for Research on Cancer, such as hexavalent chromium – the highly toxic chemical made infamous through the film Erin Brockovich and the water pollution scandal – are far more widely used in countries such as the US, China, India and Brazil than in the EU.

So all chemicals are hexavalent chromium until proven otherwise. Be afraid! Very afraid!

IARC is WHO. A political operation. Not science.

Fighting Dirty has found a way to extract money from rich white widows.

Mohave Greenie
Mohave Greenie
1 month ago

Much of the Asian foodstuffs I get here comes with a California Proposition 65 warning slapped on it. This is supposed to warn you that something in the product might cause cancer. I think the believe monosodium glutamate is carcinogen.

They’ve even slapped them on gas pumps there. The rest of the US pretty much ignores them. They put the warning on so many things, it’s just noise at this point.

Gamecock
Gamecock
1 month ago
Reply to  Mohave Greenie

Exactly. We shrug. “Forget it Jake, it’s California.”

Gamecock
Gamecock
1 month ago
Reply to  Gamecock

And the Nythia/Platt deal has turned the volume up to 11.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
1 month ago

Ricardo Gama, a partner at the law firm Leigh Day, which is representing Fighting Dirty in the proceedings, said the absence of this “safeguard” meant the government, or any future government, “could approve chemicals from places that have lower standards than the UK and EU”.

My emphasis.

That’s the point of having a sovereign government, they make the laws and regulations and if you don’t like it campaign to get elected.

Our regular reminder that you can’t despise lawyers too much.

The Original Jim
The Original Jim
1 month ago

Our regular reminder that you can’t despise lawyers too much.”

Hence my ‘Camps + 9mm’ solution……

Gamecock
Gamecock
1 month ago

To my earlier point that ‘highest standards’ is undefined.

Having worked for a major international chemical company, I know a thing or twelve about chemical standards.

Government chemical standards are typically “what exposure produces effects” divided by X. Different governments have different values for X. E.g., if 100 ppm produces an effect, and government valuation of X as 100, exposure can be no more than 1 ppm.

Still with me?

So country/EU declaration of ‘highest standards’ could mean their X is A MILLION. Whether X is 100, 1000, or a million makes no fooking difference. NONE of the exposures carry any risk. But X=1,000,000 carries all sorts of penalties. EU et al using the precautionary principle are just destructive. And make no one safer.

So the idea of fast-track chemical hazard classifications from other countries into British law is rational if you use the other country’s research into exposure, then use your own value of X. Certainly, you should be able to trust US data for exposure. There is no value to be gained by your own research. ‘Cept maybe grant money to universities . . . to study the known.

Fighting Dirty’s only value can be in believing their government is a bunch of fuck ups, and can’t be trusted with something SO SIMPLE.

john77
john77
1 month ago
Reply to  Gamecock

The idea that *in practice* the EU standards are higher than Britain’s is ludicrous.

Davidsb
Davidsb
1 month ago

Leigh Day.

The only legal firm which makes Slater & Gordon look honest and trustworthy….

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