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Facebook whistleblower Sarah Wynn-Williams was forced to sit in silence on stage at an event at Hay festival, after lawyers advised her not to speak because of ongoing legal action brought by Meta.

Wynn-Williams, whose bestselling memoir, Careless People, details her years working at Facebook, was due to appear in conversation with the investigative journalist Carole Cadwalladr and academic Tim Wu.

Instead, Wynn-Williams sat on stage for the duration of the hour-long discussion between Cadwalladr and Wu, without speaking or responding. She was unable even to nod or shake her head.

Introducing the panel, Cadwalladr said: “I think this might be a Hay first, in which we have an author in a hostage situation. Blink once if you can hear us, Sarah, twice if [Mark] Zuckerberg is an asshole.”

Earned her speakers’ fee right there.

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bloke in spain
bloke in spain
14 days ago

The Mad Catwoman has some expensive experience of libel actions, hasn’t she?

Bloke in South Dorset
Bloke in South Dorset
14 days ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

Yup, you can see why the other woman’s lawyers were nervous.

Ottokring
Ottokring
14 days ago

You’ve got t hand it to Carole Catlady. She is irrepressibly wrong about everything.

I got the impression that the book Careless People was pretty thin gruel. Anyone who has worked at one of these tech firms know what toxic places they are. I turned down jobs at Cisco and Sun Microsystems because of it and another because it was run by ex Oracle salesmen. Anyway how can any firm that employed Nick Clegg ever do any wrong ?

Nerd In West Sussex
Nerd In West Sussex
14 days ago
Reply to  Ottokring

I’m with you on Cisco, but Sun? They were cuddly AF compared to the other guys growing fast at that point like EMC. Until the acquisition, of course…

Last edited 14 days ago by Nerd In West Sussex
Ottokring
Ottokring
14 days ago

At this stage Sun were starting to struggle. I could see that they were doomed. The UK operation had a phalanx of very unpleasant Indian salesmen, who were a right bunch of twats and a Professional Services operation that were total cowboys.

Oh yeah dont get me started on EMC…

Last edited 14 days ago by Ottokring
Mr Womby
Mr Womby
14 days ago

Many years ago I was staying in a Las Vegas hotel which happened to be the location for the annual Cisco piss-up. Not a completely pleasant experience for everyone else overall, but I was impressed by the entertainment they had booked – the band Chicago.

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
14 days ago
Reply to  Ottokring

“run by ex Oracle salesmen”

I’d rather be in charge of coat making for Cruella de Vil.

Norman
Norman
14 days ago

You only have to look at Zuckerberg, and know a little of how Facebook started, to guess at its probable corporate culture. I doubt it’s a place for the shy and retiring.

Ottokring
Ottokring
14 days ago
Reply to  Norman

On my Instagram feed was some guy who had come from somewhere like Singapore to work for Meta in London.
They arranged his visa and accomodation. A month after he started they laid him and most of his floor off.

The theme changed from “I’m really excited and lucky to work for Meta” to “They are going to deport me in 60 days…”

I havent looked at IG in a few months, I wonder what happened to him.

Grikath
Grikath
14 days ago

Not exactly speaker’s fee…. More like deliberate performance art….

Read a wokeypedia summary of the book just to see what this bruhaha is all about, but…..

If you get an injunction against *opinion*, especially one that’s Pleasing unto the Eyes of the Progressive Nugganities in the legal system and MSM…
And one so strict…..

Got to be on the *really* far end to get something like that slapped on you….

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
14 days ago
Reply to  Grikath

It sounds utterly tedious from the WIkipedia entry

“The book and the SEC filing document attempts by Mark Zuckerberg to gain dominance in China. Wynn-Williams alleged that Facebook developed a system of censorship to appease the Chinese government as it sought to enter the Chinese market, which would have subjected users in Hong Kong to censorship. A Facebook privacy staffer in 2014 proposed that “In exchange for the ability to establish operations in China, FB will agree to grant the Chinese government access to Chinese users’ data — including Hong Kong users’ data”.

Although Facebook developed these technologies, it eventually decided not to implement them.”

So, Facebook did nothing.

“Wynn-Williams argued that Facebook failed to moderate hate speech against the Rohingya in Myanmar, including the use of the racial slur kalar.”

Yawn

“Wynn-Williams claims Meta identified teenage girls who had deleted selfies on Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp and forwarded their data to companies who used the data to target the girls with beauty products.”

Facebook doesn’t share data. It lets companies select marketing criteria and targets ads at them.

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Ottokring
Ottokring
13 days ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

Does she complain abut Meta’s blatant First Amendment breaches when it censored people under the Bide regime

Norman
Norman
14 days ago

Somewhat tangential, but this is an excellent comment under Orlowski’s current DT column:

Angus B
34 min ago
When AI Costs More Than the Worker It Replaced: The 2026 Math Companies Didn’t Plan For

Enterprise AI now costs more than the workers it was meant to replace at some firms. What the token-bill backlash means for layoffs and your 2026 career plan.https://www.metaintro.com/blog/ai-cost-more-than-human-workers-2026

CEOs are quietly realizing the AI replacement plan has a problem.

Two problems, actually.

One: the token costs for running AI agents are now exceeding what they were paying the employees they fired.

Two: when the tokens run out, the AI stops. Just stops. No continuity. No workaround. Just a spinning wheel where your workforce used to be.

You fired humans to save money and bought a subscription that bills you into a corner.
The employees you let go knew what to do when things broke.

The AI just invoices you for the outage.

And then there’s the permission problem nobody wants to talk about.

To do its job, the AI agent needs access. Full access. Your systems, your patents, your contracts, your future plans. Everything you spent years building, handed over to a process that has no loyalty, no discretion, and no skin in the game.
You didn’t hire a replacement.

You gave a stranger with no soul the keys to everything you own.
Enjoy.

Last edited 14 days ago by Norman
Anon
Anon
14 days ago
Reply to  Norman

Lots of corporates are using internal models (local server) for anything that needs access to sensitive stuff. And indeed running different models for eg their finance department vs their product support, with access only to relevant docs. So this comment strikes me as simplistic.

Interested
Interested
14 days ago
Reply to  Anon

I wonder if this is bullshit – $0.5bn seems a hell of a lot. But either way I found Norman’s piece interesting.

https://www.inc.com/kevin-haynes/the-500-million-ai-mistake-every-company-is-rushing-to-avoid/91353205

Anon
Anon
14 days ago
Reply to  Interested

Some companies have brought this on themselves by incentivising employees to burn tokens, making it a performance metric, hence “tokenmaxing” became a logical employee response. In something like coding where AI capabilities are already quite productive, some kernel of this maybe made sense as a way to get employees to adopt the new tech into their workflows. But obviously it’s easy to take things too far. An agentic workflow can burn quickly through tokens because the stuff triggering the AI to “think” isn’t limited to manual human input anymore.

Some bits of that comment Norman found didn’t ring true from a system administration or security perspective. You wouldn’t want to give AI free rein over absolutely all your sensitive files, and why would it be necessary?

There’s also the issue of AI context windows. When they’re initially trained at enormous data centres for billions of dollars, an AI can handle unfathomable quantities of training data. Only the big players can do that. But you can then take their model and train it up on more of your own data to make it more specialist in what you need. At this stage it can’t handle very much before you get to the point learning one more thing means forgetting something else. A manager on a complex software product told me they can’t even train an AI on their documentation to serve as an assistant for end users, because there’s just too much of it. They’re having to produce a massively cut down set of docs as the first step. Similarly building AI support agents for workers at a large company – even if it was desirable to make an all-in-one agent that could cover all roles and processes, there’s too much for it to learn. So it has to be more granular, not a free for all.

dearieme
dearieme
14 days ago
Reply to  Norman

an excellent comment under Orlowski’s current DT column” I find that when I click on the comments links under Telegraph pieces nothing comes up. Is there a trick to it, Norman?

Ottokring
Ottokring
14 days ago
Reply to  dearieme

They ( usually ) come up eventually. The same applies to the results of football matches. The DT is really annoying in the way it uses different servers.

Chris Miller
Chris Miller
14 days ago
Reply to  dearieme

I find DT comments don’t appear if (as I do) you have JavaScript turned off to circumvent the paywall.

jgh
jgh
14 days ago

Is that spelling an affectation? I have a Cadwallader in my family, her spelling leaps out as wrong.

Mr Womby
Mr Womby
14 days ago
Reply to  jgh

It’s useful for us speed readers; if you scan a passage and see the unusual spelling you can immediately tell yourself “It’s that crazy woman” and skip to the next article.

dearieme
dearieme
14 days ago
Reply to  jgh

Cadwallader” seems a bit vowel-heavy for a Welsh name.

Ottokring
Ottokring
14 days ago
Reply to  dearieme

Its probably a keyboard translation problem, you know like Qwerty and Azerti.

Those “a”s should probably be “w”s as well.

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