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Starmer said: “British Steel is part of the fabric of our nation and a cornerstone of Britain’s industrial strength.

“Today’s decision secures the future of steel making in the UK, protects skilled jobs and safeguards a vital national capability. This government will always act in the national interest to support British industry, strengthen our economy and ensure the industries we rely on can thrive long into the future.”

It’s a technology well past its use date and is worth less than nothing. Which is why we’ve all got to subsidise it, obviously.

Sigh.

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johnthebridge
johnthebridge
23 days ago

Starmer said: “British Steel is part of the fabric of our nation and a cornerstone of Britain’s industrial strength.”

Err, is that why BS was sold by the Conservatives to a Chinese company in 2020? A foreign company that subsequently tried to blag millions off the government (aka the British taxpayer) in grants?
Fucking hypocrite.

Last edited 23 days ago by johnthebridge
grist
grist
23 days ago

“It’s such a vital part of the fabric that I appointed Ed Miliband as Energy Security Minister to ensure that we can no longer make it from raw materials!”.
I must admit that I feel a twinge of jealousy when I see all these Korean and Chinese cars whizzing around and all the British marques are dead or dying, killed off by politicians and the Labour spawn of unions…

Last edited 23 days ago by grist
David
David
23 days ago

To make steel you need cheap energy – ownership is less important.

Bloke in North Dorset
23 days ago
Reply to  David

This isn’t about making steel, it’s about the politics of subsidies to buy votes in marginal constituencies. Labour can’t shovel billions of tax payers money in to a Chinese (or American) owned firm but they can in to a nationalised firm, especially one with plants in marginal constituencies.

Norman
Norman
23 days ago

There are at least half a dozen mosques in Scunthorpe now. Just sayin’.

Bloke in South Dorset
Bloke in South Dorset
23 days ago
Reply to  Norman

Putting the cunt back into Scunthorpe.

Addolff
Addolff
23 days ago

Listening to (I think) the CEO of British Steel on the telly this morning explaining that the Government plan is to take control of the company, turn it into a profitable business and then sell it to private investors (he knows people who are interested, apparently).

Is it just me or does that sound just like the headline of this post?

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
23 days ago
Reply to  Addolff

Why would anyone doing an interview like that not be sniggering in response?

You just have to look at all the forms of transport. Coaches and planes run pretty well and make a profit. Trains are shit and need massive subsidies. Politicians just don’t have the experience in a thing, and they can’t help but try and make an organisation do more than its purpose.

Like the NHS is suffused with the green agenda. They waste money on solar roofs for hospitals that will never make a return on investment. Nuffield don’t. Nuffield focus on getting patients treated. They buy the cheapest energy to operate. And they’ll do the same thing with British Steel. They won’t want the plant making union members redundant. They’ll want it using more green energy. Some feminist might stick her oar in and ask why there’s so few women there, and now you’re going to get a load of diversity hires.

Addolff
Addolff
23 days ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

As the great Jordan Peterson pointed out to a feminist asking for ‘equality’, women never seem to ask for equality in deep sea diving, bricklaying, sewer maintenance, steel making, do they…..

jgh
jgh
23 days ago
Reply to  Addolff

“turn it into a profitable business”

They’re going to turn it into a hockey team.

Martin Near The M25
Martin Near The M25
23 days ago

This government will always act in the national interest …”

This was presumably the point where his pants caught fire.

Philip Scott Thomas
Philip Scott Thomas
23 days ago

From the BBC:

In March, the National Audit Office released a report noting that the Scunthorpe steelworks was costing the government about £1.3m a day.

Business Secretary Peter Kyle told the BBC the government will need to cover the running costs “for the immediate future”.

He said an independent assessor will determine whether Jingye should be compensated for the nationalisation based on the value of the company.

So not only is the British taxpayer now on the hook for £1.3 million per day, but the government will decide whether they’re going to compensate Jingye for the property they’ve ‘nationalised’ or just steal it outright.

jgh
jgh
23 days ago

If it’s losing £1.3m a day, isn’t the value of the business negative?

john77
john77
23 days ago
Reply to  jgh

That depends on whether it has saleable assets worth more than (£1.3m times number of days it takes to close down loss-making operations)

Norman
Norman
23 days ago
Reply to  john77

Yeah, I’d buy a blast furnace.

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
23 days ago
Reply to  Norman

I would to put every Labour MP and councillor into it…

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
23 days ago
Reply to  john77

That’s an easy calculation to make then. Has anyone put in a bid to buy the business? No. So they’re not saleable.*

*According to normal economics. Government introduces the concept of ‘negative price’. What it will pay you to buy an asset.

Norman
Norman
23 days ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

Like the Chagos, you mean?

Norman
Norman
23 days ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

You’re right. I have three cheap video lights I bought when I first started shooting video for the Japs and didn’t know the job would continue, since replaced with better. They’re on eBay: no takers, so they’re worth nowt. They’ll go to the dump.

Grikath
Grikath
23 days ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

Of course they’re not saleable….

If you’d just buy a set of fancy funaces + sundries… manageable…
But *then* you have to deal with the Unions, Government, Gaia NGO’s, and a ton of other things that are somehow Important.

The only thing the ovens are good for is feeding them with the “secondary stakeholders” that are in the way of the things actually being useful and profitable.
As Carbon Addition.

john77
john77
23 days ago
Reply to  john77

An office block in London can be sold for a £billion

Gamecock
Gamecock
23 days ago
Reply to  jgh

They make up for it in volume.

Marius
Marius
23 days ago

Obviously Jingye will be compensated lavishly because of sucking up to China. Clearly there is no value to the business.

Bongo
Bongo
23 days ago

They’re commies – they’ll steal it. Admittedly gradually as some independent committee decides the price which might be appealed. They’ll come for the water companies and your second homes and steal them too soon.

andyf
andyf
23 days ago

Another way of putting it is that they are losing an average of £95,000 per employee each year.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
23 days ago

It’s to be taken over because we need to make steel or be at the mercy of the international market.

We don’t need to drill for oil and gas because we will still be subject to international markets.

My potato patch has made me temporarily independent of Tesco for spuds.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
23 days ago

Presumably this will preserve jobs as we have seen previously in the docks,Fleet Street printers, shipbuilding and many more.

Gamecock
Gamecock
23 days ago

“Today’s decision secures the future of steel making in the UK”

‘Til tomorrow.

NielsR
NielsR
23 days ago
Reply to  Gamecock

It secures the future for waffling about the future of steel making in the UK. Dunno about the steel itself.

dearieme
dearieme
23 days ago

I have a rather successful mathematical model of a blast furnace that I never did commercialise. Is it too late to hope that I can persuade HMG to buy it? That would be some compensation for the work I did for the bastards on Chernobyl that they never did pay me for.

Norman
Norman
23 days ago
Reply to  dearieme

Does it make mathematical models of steel that you can build mathematical stuff with?

andyf
andyf
23 days ago

Starmer is running out of time to spend our money. What might he do tomorrow morning in his final minutes?

Mr Womby
Mr Womby
23 days ago
Reply to  andyf

He’s already putting Sadiq Khan into the HoL*, how much worse can it get?

(*Which means he can become a member of the cabinet.)

Jimmers
Jimmers
23 days ago
Reply to  Mr Womby

Dunno, maybe Andy Burnham could stop being Mayor Of Manchester and become PM.
Only kidding.
Nothing that ludicrous would actually happen in a grown up country like ours….

Grikath
Grikath
23 days ago
Reply to  Jimmers

You do realise that the Germans have been looking at the UK and been going “ok….*that* is the Bridge Too Far… So we can get away with *this*” looking at UK ( and French….) Clown World , and managed to build a “functioning” Uniparty for decades now….

Until the Fall of the Wall and the rise of the AfD… Because those damn Ossies weren’t Civilised… ( and could poke through all of the Tricks, because GDR and its antics….)

Last edited 23 days ago by Grikath
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