I do believe you have it surrounded BiS – this is his latest wheeze – maybe going back into education at an earlier level. He’s persistent if nothing else.
It’s the second time we’ve seen him present something like this. Serious people just present lists in a box. When they start playing with flashy graphics, they’re hardly serious are they? Economics for primary school children?
That’s interesting because AI is often accused of having flights of fancy because it’s trying to please its interlocutor. It’s obviously decide there’s no point with Spud because he’s too far out to be credibly pleased.
Chris
25 days ago
Not sure I am working out what is going on here.
Is this not just a list of common sense points, rather like ‘look both ways before crossing the road?’
Funny enough, it pops up in The Telegraph letters today…
"SIR – Those of us without a banker’s salary are burdened with three consequences of Thatcherism, for which neoliberalism appears to have no answer: expensive housing, expensive energy and an economy that has left many on low wages. Andy Burnham might be wrong, but more of the same will clearly not do.
Michael Heaton
Warminster, Wiltshire"
The expensive housing is a consequence of New Labour: in ten years under Tony Blair house prices more than doubled (or “house prices went up by more in ten years of Blair than they had done in the previous thousand years”); Mrs Thatcher reduced energy prices by decreeing that the privatised companies increased prices by less than inflation (IIRC, max allowable increase was inflation minus 2%); while Mrs Thatcher was PM *real* median wages grew faster than under any Labour government.
All those things are government policy, same as under the tories. When you are planning a wealth tax you don’t want house prices to fall. When China wants to sell you renewables, energy prices rise. Immigration keeps wages down and nobody has the guts to fix that.
NO Rising house prices were *not* a Tory policy because they wanted a “Property-owning democracy” which doesn’t happen if young married couples have nil chance of buying a house. There were two (at least two as I recall two) downward blips in house prices in the Thatcher-Major years and at least one in the 50s. Energy prices fell under Thatcher and I do not recall Cameron wanting to buy renewables from China – he got BP and Shell to invest in renewables instead.
As I said Mrs Thatcher increased real median (so for the working class, not necessarily for the rich) wages faster than any Labour government in history, and the 1951-64 Tories raised real incomes by one-third: immigration did *not* keep wages down.
dearieme
25 days ago
“… problems that society creates” How does an abstraction – society – create problems?
In Murphy’s mind, “society” exists and is not formed by people – on the contrary people are formed by it. Of course any concept of Murphy’s mind creates problems.
Murphy objects to the idea that people should solve problems – surely they should leave that to the all-seeing, all-wise, Party and, in exceptional cases, to Big Brother himself.
When your core values contradict their values, you get a lot of strange combinations. I read that list and I think “yes!” Those are my values. They see that list as condemnations.
But then, if I say that abortion kills a person for the sake of convenience, they smile and say “yes!” They do not take it in the spirit in which I said it, because their values are different.
What many see as “pwns” of the other side, the other side sees as common sense.
We can no longer communicate across cultural divides because not only are our words used differently, we seek different things in life.
peem birrell
24 days ago
Problems that society creates? question-begging, much?
You lift that from his site, Tim? He’s using AI to produce handwritten notes? He really is a tosser, isn’t he?
Looks like Crayon to me.
I do believe you have it surrounded BiS – this is his latest wheeze – maybe going back into education at an earlier level. He’s persistent if nothing else.
It’s the second time we’ve seen him present something like this. Serious people just present lists in a box. When they start playing with flashy graphics, they’re hardly serious are they? Economics for primary school children?
His slight problem is that the AI is
ignoring his words and correcting what he says.
That’s interesting because AI is often accused of having flights of fancy because it’s trying to please its interlocutor. It’s obviously decide there’s no point with Spud because he’s too far out to be credibly pleased.
Not sure I am working out what is going on here.
Is this not just a list of common sense points, rather like ‘look both ways before crossing the road?’
Common sense to us, and something to strive for.
To him it’s the Creed of the Shaitan, Hymn of the Great Corruptor, etc….
And we kick puppies and have kittens for dessert…
I like it. No need to sell it to me.
Taxes on everything should fall.
‘Neoliberal’ can mean anything he wants- nothing more, nothing less.
I have never heard anyone else use the word. He can have it, being so obsessed with it.
Funny enough, it pops up in The Telegraph letters today…
The expensive housing is a consequence of New Labour: in ten years under Tony Blair house prices more than doubled (or “house prices went up by more in ten years of Blair than they had done in the previous thousand years”); Mrs Thatcher reduced energy prices by decreeing that the privatised companies increased prices by less than inflation (IIRC, max allowable increase was inflation minus 2%); while Mrs Thatcher was PM *real* median wages grew faster than under any Labour government.
All those things are government policy, same as under the tories. When you are planning a wealth tax you don’t want house prices to fall. When China wants to sell you renewables, energy prices rise. Immigration keeps wages down and nobody has the guts to fix that.
NO Rising house prices were *not* a Tory policy because they wanted a “Property-owning democracy” which doesn’t happen if young married couples have nil chance of buying a house. There were two (at least two as I recall two) downward blips in house prices in the Thatcher-Major years and at least one in the 50s. Energy prices fell under Thatcher and I do not recall Cameron wanting to buy renewables from China – he got BP and Shell to invest in renewables instead.
As I said Mrs Thatcher increased real median (so for the working class, not necessarily for the rich) wages faster than any Labour government in history, and the 1951-64 Tories raised real incomes by one-third: immigration did *not* keep wages down.
“… problems that society creates” How does an abstraction – society – create problems?
In Murphy’s mind, “society” exists and is not formed by people – on the contrary people are formed by it. Of course any concept of Murphy’s mind creates problems.
Murphy objects to the idea that people should solve problems – surely they should leave that to the all-seeing, all-wise, Party and, in exceptional cases, to Big Brother himself.
Society does create problems…
Not everyone marches along like ants.
Some of them even ….Question… the Wisdom of the Queen and her Priests….
Y’know…..non-conformists….
I would suggest that individuals have to solve problems that governments create…..
Society is a female creation.
There is no such thing as society
When your core values contradict their values, you get a lot of strange combinations. I read that list and I think “yes!” Those are my values. They see that list as condemnations.
But then, if I say that abortion kills a person for the sake of convenience, they smile and say “yes!” They do not take it in the spirit in which I said it, because their values are different.
What many see as “pwns” of the other side, the other side sees as common sense.
We can no longer communicate across cultural divides because not only are our words used differently, we seek different things in life.
Problems that society creates? question-begging, much?