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Instagram’s chief executive has said users will have a worse experience in an algorithm-free world, seeing more brand-related content, and spend less time on the app.

The comments come as the Australian government plans to give users the option to opt out of algorithms, with the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, announcing plans on Tuesday to require social media platforms to prompt users to choose between a feed of algorithm-recommended content or a reverse chronological feed of the pages users follow.

So the Big Solution is that Instagram must offer the same feed choices as Twitter. This will obviously make a big, big, difference.

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Deveril
Deveril
25 days ago

It’s rationing.

Ottokring
Ottokring
25 days ago

I stopped using Twatter when Musk stopped showing posts chronologically but rather by their ‘top’ rating.

I haven’t been back to check if they have fixed that yet. Lost interest in it.

Rarely use IG now either, come to think of it.

Last edited 25 days ago by Ottokring
Pip Community Leader
Pip Community Leader
25 days ago
Reply to  Ottokring

Never used either. Nor Fascbook.

Bring back Lotus 1-2-3 and Wordperfect. And Pet Commodores. And PDP-8s. And Atlas Autocode. etc etc

Ltw
Ltw
25 days ago

Shame on you. Wordstar please 🙂

Bloke in Cyprus
Bloke in Cyprus
25 days ago
Reply to  Ltw

And VisiCalc!

dearieme
dearieme
25 days ago

I’ll trump you all. Bring back analogue computers. Twiddle those pots!

Bloke in Cyprus
Bloke in Cyprus
25 days ago
Reply to  dearieme

Before my time, I started with CP/M…

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
25 days ago
Reply to  dearieme

Earlier – Wind that handle!

dearieme
dearieme
25 days ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

Ting!

Mr Womby
Mr Womby
25 days ago

PDP-8s! 12-bit rules, OK!
Anyone a fan of the Ferranti Argus 200? That was my introduction to computing. Didn’t run into the brand again until the Met Office bought a batch of the 700 series for their radiosonde systems in the eighties. Paper tape input, of course.

MecEnNormandieDeTejas
MecEnNormandieDeTejas
24 days ago
Reply to  Mr Womby

Arg the Argus! They were the other half of Ferranti computers back in the day; I were dahn sahf in Bracknell with the 1600 series- 24 bit, for HM Navy etc….. ah, the mighty FM1600E!!

Jimmers
Jimmers
25 days ago
Reply to  Ottokring

You can choose to see posts chronologically or by rating. Takes two taps.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
25 days ago
Reply to  Jimmers

And that’s for only the people you choose to follow, alternatively you can let the algorithms do the selection.

i find it a very useful tool, but then I only stick to those I follow and find that since Musk it respects my choice. Before Musk it kept switching to the algorithm driven “for you” and was a real pain. The opposite of what the Musk detractors claim.

Ottokring
Ottokring
25 days ago
Reply to  Jimmers

But not ( it wasn’t anyway ) for browsing and reading some random guy’s posts.

Interested
Interested
25 days ago
Reply to  Ottokring

@Otto

I stopped using Twatter when Musk stopped showing posts chronologically but rather by their ‘top’ rating.

I haven’t been back to check if they have fixed that yet. Lost interest in it.

It is a must-use unfortunately – otherwise you are relying on the mainstream media to curate all your info, pretty much. (Not strictly true, this isn’t the MSM for instance, but at scale.)

Ottokring
Ottokring
25 days ago
Reply to  Interested

I long ago ceased to believe anything from anyone.

Which is a sad indictment on our modern age.

Interested
Interested
24 days ago
Reply to  Ottokring

I have ceased to believe most of it but not yet all. I believe you, for instance.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
25 days ago

I’m not in either. They are like trying to shout your opinion in Wembley Stadium during a match while listening to catch anything sensible shouted by others.

Here, on the other hand, is like a comfy leather-cushioned gentlemen’s* club with a few cronies and everybody heard.

  • Ladies admitted, of course.
Tractor Gent
Tractor Gent
25 days ago
Reply to  rhoda klapp

There is the occasional yahoo but gentlemen know how to deal with them.

As for the other media, if I occasionally follow a link to IG or Faeces, they won’t let me look unless I use the app and have an account. Xitter is a bit more forgiving. You would think the would welcome passing trade as it might get hooked, but they see it as free riding.

Chris
Chris
25 days ago

‘a reverse chronological feed ‘ is also an a algorithm …. it’s about choice and transparency and personalisation of the algorithms. FFS I realise it’s the grauniad but this kind of ignorance in basic digital tech policy is appalling.

JuliaM
JuliaM
25 days ago
Reply to  Chris

But not surprising, if you’ve read their page.

jgh
jgh
25 days ago
Reply to  Chris

It’s not even digital tech, algorithms are just basic “do this step then this step”. Tying your shoelaces uses a ****ing algorithm.

Alan Peakall
Alan Peakall
24 days ago
Reply to  Chris

Michael Oakeshott made the point when writing on Hayek that “a plan to abstain from all planning is itself a plan”.

Ltw
Ltw
25 days ago

It’s all a distraction from Albanese being a clueless dickhead. I mean, the EU at least has some clout on the world stage, but Australia is going to fine the likes of Meta and X for not having an extra prompt? How the the hell is that going to work?

Oh, that’s right, he’s trying to control “misinformation” again, as in anything he doesn’t like.

Albanese and the ALP would probably like to see all social media platforms geoblocked from Australia.

Baron Jackfield
Baron Jackfield
25 days ago
Reply to  Ltw

It’s interesting how the meaning of words mutates over time… For example ‘misinformation’ has now come to mean ‘truth’ (or, I suppose, ‘politically-unacceptable truth’).

Interested
Interested
25 days ago

I like the algorithm because it shows me attractive young women with nice arses, which is the only reason I can see to use Instagram.

Mr Womby
Mr Womby
25 days ago
Reply to  Interested

Then you’ve almost certainly seen my sister. (I was going to write “come across my sister” but then Finbarr Saunders had a word in my ear.)

Norman
Norman
25 days ago
Reply to  Mr Womby

Visual evidence, please.

Mr Womby
Mr Womby
25 days ago
Reply to  Norman

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Norman
Norman
25 days ago
Reply to  Mr Womby

Oy oy…

Grikath
Grikath
25 days ago
Reply to  Mr Womby

Shame about the tats….

Gamecock
Gamecock
25 days ago

So Instagram is an Australian product and the government can order them how to operate?

Who the hell does Albanese think he is? He invites a tariff war. Trump has told the world they are not going to dictate requirements on American products. Should Albanese persist, the most likely outcome is Australians will just have to get by with no Instagram at all, PLUS Trump’s wrath.

Seriously tone deaf.

asiaseen
asiaseen
25 days ago
Reply to  Gamecock

Australians will just have to get by with no Instagram at all

And be so much better for it.

Ltw
Ltw
25 days ago
Reply to  Gamecock

My point exactly Gamecock. It’s laughable. Unfortunately these are adults in charge.

Agammamon
Agammamon
24 days ago

The Youtube algorithm keeps showing me the same half-dozen videos over and over. Sure, it might be a different half dozen every day but its still the same half dozen each day. And it pushes ‘brand content’.

Half of them I’ve already seen – months ago.

Algorythms are of little use.

Finally, if the user-experience is really that inferior, would those that ‘opt out’ then choose to ‘opt back in’?

As Tim has pointed out – you don’t need to ban something people don’t want. You ban the things they do want that you don’t think they should have.

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