The chequebooks of the rich and powerful are already circling the next election. The question for Labour is, are we prepared to pay the price if we refuse to stop them?
Events are moving not necessarily to my advantage. Change the law to stop it!
About what you’d expect from Stella Creasy, obviously.
Labour is yet to commit to this because some are uneasy that capping individual donations could lead to calls to cap collective donations from membership organisations and trade unions. This is not the first time this fear has led to inaction.
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Critically NC120 explicitly exempts trade unions from the cap
Yep, I’m going to wholly rig the system in my favour. About what we’d expect from Stella Creasy.
Has anyone told her about this Soros chap?
Yes but he’s one of the good guys, this is about stopping the bad guys.
Presumably he can go on funding NGOs and fake charities that are basically auxiliaries to the Labour Party
The mindset of the Left always fascinates me. Why they don’t believe in religion seems strange. Every night they must go to bed thinking “I am God”…
They do have religious belief. It’s just in themselves and their own righteousness.
They refuse to believe in God because they wouldn’t like the competition.
I expect Labour to try things like this. What I find worse is the number of metropolitan twats who will try to defend it because they hate Farage.
Notable too that they’ve already changed the law re trade union members making donations to Labour (from ‘opt in’ back to ‘opt out’). God I hate the Labour Party.
I come from generations of genuine working class people, and it was no surprise that one vacation from my degree course I took a job as a Co-op Milkman, basically doing holiday cover in the Summer of ’68.. Well, it put me off electric vehicles for life! It also taught me how corrupt the working man’s work enviroment was – with the foreman hiding broken – and therefore empty – bottles in lower crates which I had to pay for. I had a lot of pubs on my round, and if the offer of a drink came before the payment the money was short. It was also a closed shop. I tried to get out of paying the Political Levy – an impossibility. It put me off Unions – that and other experiences. The only benefit was that I mastered mentally calculating multiples of tenpence-halfpenny (standard), elevenpence (gold top) and elevenpence-halfpenny (sterlised)!
My current view is a visceral hatred of the Left, Trade Unions, Social housing tenants, and all they stand for. My late father in law (also a bit of a Leftie) also once told me that his father once told him that the British working man was an expert contortionist, who would readily adopt the posture necessary to stab himself in the back.Support for the Left is precisely that.
“I took a job as a Co-op Milkman”
My father’s advice was “Never work for the ‘working man’.”
Social housing should be – mainly – a transitional stage. A good friend was born in social housing, but his family were there for only three years while his father worked his way up from shopfloor to senior management in retail.
That’s why we should subsidise people and not houses. If people fall on hard times why make them move and why should people have to move once they’ve start to better themselves?
Gerrymandering is what the Labour Party does. This government:
1. Is altering the electoral map under the guise of local government reorganization
2. Is considering votes for 16yo – unless they might vote Green
3. Has altered the voting procedures for metropolitan mayors by from FPTP to the Supplementary Vote (SV) system.
The most important objective for sane voters at the next GE is to vote tactically to keep Labour and the left out…
But also that needs to accompany the creation of a parallel paramilitary force to tackle the likes of Hope not Hate as well as Islamic militants, alongside Franchise Reform to introduce plural votes for Asset holders and Private Sector workers , as well as heavy restrictions on manifestos which are uncosted and increase the National Debt.
No, the only franchise reform needed is a straight Adult Citizen Franchise.
Not an adult, capable of sitting on a jury and being banged up in nick for defaulting on a contract? No vote.
Not a citizen? No vote.
Now, if they want to change the age at which you are an adult, fine, go ahead, but that’s the age at which you are an ADULT, no children’s bus fares, no protection from the law, no underage detention, no compulsion to stay in school, no banning of buying fags, lotto, and booze.
They also want to give (more) foreigners the vote.
Why should public schools enjoy charitable status? Tax the elite bastards!!!
Why should unions be exempt from limiting donations to political parties? To stop the elites from influencing politics!!
As a result, on Wednesday, measures to cap what overseas donors can give will come before parliament in the representation of the people bill.
Stop foreigners donating. Ok, fair enough – now how about stopping foreigners from voting in our elections? What’s that you say Stella…that’s totally different?
How can foreigners – non-citizens – voting in elections ever be anything other than blatantly corrupt gerrymandering? How did it ever come about?
I think it’s another hangover from Are Empire, beloved of the Royals and others of our Establishment but completely irrelevant to the majority of British people. It’s a convenient stick to beat us with – ” The British Empire Was The Most Evil Thing Ever!” and also to justify importing millions of hostile Africans and Asians – ” We Owe It To Them!” or ” Diversity Built Britain!” – as well as allowing Commonwealth citizens to vote.
It was an EU thing. Resident foreigners given the vote for local elections. Once on the electoral roll it’s possible to vote in national elections as well, unless some expensive efforts are made to prevent unqualified people from voting, e.g. by having two electoral rolls.
As I said, corrupt gerrymandering, on the assumption that EU nationals in other EU countries will vote in the EU’s favour. Just like Labour giving votes to 16 year olds, on the assumption that they’ll vote
GreenLabour. Oops.It’s not an EU thing. It’s Commonwealth citizens. It’s the “we still have an empire really, those little toy parliaments we let you have are just parish councils, you’re all still British” delusion.
Stella, you control near 100% of Laws, 60% of MPs, 50% of all spending in the country and can only get 25% of the country to like you.
The problem is . .you. Cap government at whatever their share of the popular vote was, and if they want to spend more they would have to show they are trusted to spend it well by getting an increased vote share.
I like that idea
Alas BiSD it’s hopelessly impractical. All they’ll do is that the 30% party will make a coalition with a 21% party and they can spend half of everything. Which is pretty close to what happens in the countries with PR (except switzerland)
I know Bongo, but it’s still a nice idea.
So can millionaires form a union and donate to whatever political party they want?
They already have. It’s called the First Division Association.
I was just wondering that. Can we create the “Union of Affiliated Millionaires that Want to Give Dosh to Farage”? Even just to piss Stella offf..
I thought that too but apparently they’ve a definition of “union” in law which includes that members must be workers etc.
Elton John is (or certainly, was) in the Musicians Union. Is he a “worker”?
Given his political views he’ll be allowed to donate.
Its not rigging the system – its making it ‘Fair’ – in the same way I make it ‘Fair’ when I play monopoly with my kids – ie let them win.
The one thing I would say is she, and those like her should be paying the price – At the bare minimum a lengthy custodial sentence but ideally a capital punishment for a political lifetime spent committing literally hundreds of acts of treason
Girlfriend joined Unison.
Actually quite difficult to NOT donate to Lieboir.
At least 2 (maybe 3) unticks / tick to not donate stages.