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People living in Blackpool, Manchester and Middlesbrough are twice as likely to die as other parts of the country, a new study revealed today.

The risk of death is pretty much 1 for all of us (Elijah and the Virgin Mary being the exceptions according to folklore).

The risk of dying in any one year can be higher or lower in specific places of course.

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Mr Ecks
Mr Ecks
11 years ago

The “higher” erisk of death in Blackpool in any given year is prob because of all the )rather well-off) old people who live out Lytham St Annes way. Middlesborough I dunno.

Ironman
Ironman
11 years ago

How is life expectancy affected by going on a stag weekend to Blackpool?

Rob
Rob
11 years ago

House Prices and Death. That’s the DM. Oh, and immigrants.

Dave
Dave
11 years ago

“The risk of death is pretty much 1 for all of us”

It’s a fair bit less than 1, based on current evidence, given the billions who haven’t died.

Surreptitious Evil
11 years ago

Dave,

You don’t require instanciation to enumerate risk. On current evidence, the billions currently alive have a 100% risk of dying. Sometime. The evidence may change.

Anyway (not that it changes the risk in any material way), Abrahamic folklore also includes:

Enoch (Idris to the Muslims), Serach, Eliezer, Hiram, Ebed-Melech, Jaabez and Bithiah.

The Stigler
11 years ago

I’d rather book a one-way ticket to Dignitas than go to Manchester again.

Andrew
Andrew
11 years ago

So if I move away from Manchester I have a 50% chance of immortality? Great!

James
James
11 years ago

“The “higher” erisk of death in Blackpool in any given year is prob because of all the )rather well-off) old people who live out Lytham St Annes way. ”

Nope. Separate local authority.

Blame it on our love of importing everyone else’s problem populations – alcohol-related deaths, heart disease, suicide, smacking up, HIV (although much improved mortality these days), deep-frying everything… We do have a slightly older population, too, though.

Squander Two
11 years ago

That gave me a laugh, but, Tim, to be fair, it doesn’t say “people from”, it says “people living in”. Given that people move around, the stat is not inherently impossible.

I’m sure that’s not what The Mail meant, though. They’re not good with numbers.

Bloke in Costa Rica
Bloke in Costa Rica
11 years ago

One in fifteen persons who has ever lived is alive today. This does at least make it possible to entertain the idea that the risk of death is not 1. Sample statistics and population statistics differ in non-trivial ways.

Actually, of course, immortality doesn’t just mean living for a very long time. It means living infinitely long. There would appear to be insurmountable probabilistic, thermodynamic and cosmological constraints militating against such a possibility.

Squander Two
11 years ago

> Actually, of course, immortality doesn’t just mean living for a very long time. It means living infinitely long.

It varies in meaning, but is usually taken to mean “unable to die of old age”. So there’s no contradiction involved in immortals dying because the universe they’re standing in collapses.

Interested
Interested
11 years ago

James, there’s also all those deaths of people falling out of the Cat and Mouse.

Interested
Interested
11 years ago

@S2 “It varies in meaning, but is usually taken to mean “unable to die of old age”.”

Is that right? Highlander could only die of beheading.

So Much for Subtlety
So Much for Subtlety
11 years ago

Squander Two – “It varies in meaning, but is usually taken to mean “unable to die of old age”. So there’s no contradiction involved in immortals dying because the universe they’re standing in collapses.”

If anyone lives long enough to be threatened by the final Big Crunch and/or Heat Death, we can probably call that close enough.

john77
john77
11 years ago

Enoch, but outnumbered by Lazarus, Jairus’ daughter, the son of the widow of Nain, and someone else whom I have forgotten who each died twice. So probability of dying is asymptotatically close to 1 but frequency is minutely greater than 1.
Most of you seem not to know the difference between probability and frequency functions.

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