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the one unexpected element, which was an increase in the dividend tax rate by 1.25%.

Dealing with the latter first, this should be seen for what it is. It is a sop to criticism. It supposedly addresses the issue of national insurance avoidance by those who pay themselves using dividends from limited companies. I have no particular problem with tackling that issue, but there is a flaw. The implication is that genuine investment income – the dividends received in ISAs and by savings institutions, interest and rents – should all remain exempt from this charge. Implicit in this move was another attack on working people as a consequence, with the very obvious intention being that genuine wealth should be untouched by the demand that it contribute to society. The bias could not be clearer.

Genuine wealth contributing to society by being, umm, invested in it perhaps? That capital stock does have to come from somewhere, after all. Whatever is to be said about MMT and money printing it’s still true that for there to be a capital stock someone, somewhere, has had to delay their consumption….

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Van_Patten
Van_Patten
4 years ago

Tim – your analysis would require some understanding of second order consequences and he has repeatedly shown he has none whatsoever. I think the line of argument is that ‘wealthy’ people are able to afford ISAs and Pensions which provide a shelter from tax and that money should be given to the poorest in society. It’s scarcely worthy of a teenager. To see someone in their 60s peddling it is almost cringeworthy.

Andrew C
Andrew C
4 years ago

@Van_Patten

It may be that not having the riches he no doubt thinks he deserves, he resents other people his age being financially comfortable. He can dress that up as ‘justice’ if he wants but the envy and spite is there for all to see.

Bongo
Bongo
4 years ago

I’ve sent him a Greggs voucher. He’s clearly running low on something, and anyway he needs to get more in touch with his inner mile end road.

moqifen
moqifen
4 years ago

As far as i can work out the potato’s position on tax is this
1) tax doesn’t pay for government spending
2) the govt needs MOAR tax to pay for spending
3) Govt spending pays for itself because of the multiplier effect raises an equivalent amount of tax to pay for the spending
4) Tax is raised to control inflation but we need MOAR tax regardless of the rate of inflation.

I was confused, then i remembered the potato is an idiot.

Diogenes
Diogenes
4 years ago

This says everything about the Spud’s intellectual power

https://twitter.com/RichardJMurphy/status/1435342072207355912?s=19

Ducky McDuckface
Ducky McDuckface
4 years ago

Did a few back of the fag packet calculations on the policy proposal, and I’m beginning to wonder how it will interact with Inheritance Tax over the next ten to fifteen years or so. I suspect that it will increase the take (at 40% over the threshold).

The politics of it are potentially really quite cute.

moqifen
moqifen
4 years ago

@diogenes – he knows his arguments would be torn to shreds and he’d look exactly what he is (an idiot)

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
4 years ago

“Richard Murphy
@RichardJMurphy
I got asked to do GB News today. They really shouldn’t have wasted their money making the call.”

Andrew C
Andrew C
4 years ago

Although Spud was happy to appear on some media outlet funded by Putin.

Bloke in Wales
Bloke in Wales
4 years ago

Sadly, I can;t see that, I’m blocked

Right-click the link above, select “Open Link in Private Window” (or similar, it depends on the browser.)

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
4 years ago

Diogenes/ moqifen

I wonder how he’d react to a cabinet minister refusing to go on Channel 4 News? What a sanctimonious cretin he is…

PF
PF
4 years ago

“Sadly, I can;t see that, I’m blocked”

Log out for two seconds? I’m not on it and it never blocks me from occasionally viewing. Yes, fair enough, why bother…

PF
PF
4 years ago

BiW’s ahead of me.

Grikath
Grikath
4 years ago

“Sadly, I can;t see that, I’m blocked”

Log out of twitter… hey presto… 😉

KyleT
KyleT
4 years ago

You can also just open the link in an incognito window (or private tab, or whatever else it’s called) in your browser.

samuelbuca
samuelbuca
4 years ago

That wasn’t the funniest thing on his twatter. The man actually said “We don’t need tax increases”

https://twitter.com/richardjmurphy/status/1435260467115667458?s=21

That needs to be printed and framed

CJ Nerd
CJ Nerd
4 years ago

Beatiful reply to Murphy by Rule Brexitannia:

“No idea who you are. Would have be nice to have learned more about you and your opinions. Never mind.”

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