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Sir Keir Starmer would lower trade barriers with the European Union within 18 months of entering Downing Street under Labour’s plans to recast relations with the Continent if it is elected.

The Labour leader wants to reach new agreements to make it easier to trade food, medicines and animals in a push to change the deal struck by Boris Johnson in 2020.

The approach would make it easier for European farmers to sell their products into the UK – though, likewise, British farmers would find it easier to export into the bloc.

Why not just abolish all the import restrictions right now?

After all, we do, post-Brexit, control those import restrictions…..

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JuliaM
JuliaM
2 years ago

The words ‘Tories’ and ‘action’ sit very strangely together ….

Lurker
Lurker
2 years ago

Kier is a scary guy-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12084531/Keir-Starmer-says-common-sense-let-EU-citizens-choose-MPs.html

And giving 16 year olds the vote! Let them leave school first.

Addolff
Addolff
2 years ago

Our political elite (and their comrades in the EU) did not and do not want Brexit to succeed in any way, shape or form, and will actively do everything they possibly can to fuck it up and relish being able to say “see, told you it would be a disaster”.

The reason Brexit hasn’t been a success is because they won’t allow it to be.

The Simon Calder bloke on the telly last week saying the increase in the time taken to get through EU customs was “what people voted for”.
Julia H-B said that was complete nonsense and called him out as being a total remoaner and said ‘Portugal allows UK peeps to use the e-gates at their points of entry, why don’t the French and Spanish’.

Grist
Grist
2 years ago

I can understand the desire for politicians to join a club of corrupt, incompetent politicians who don’t rely on pesky voters. Knowing several Tory ministers (by reputation only, I hasten to add; I’d rather become intimate with a rapid porcupine), I never cease to be amazed at just how lazy and stupid they are. It does disabuse one from believing conspiracy theories. If you tried to organise a group of politicians to rob a bank, they wouldn’t be able to meet up as a gang. They’d tie the cosh to their heads and try to look menacing brandishing a mask in a threatening way.

Steve
Steve
2 years ago

The Tories took very effective action to neuter their own 80 seat majority, tbf.

Bloke on M4
Bloke on M4
2 years ago

JuliaM,

“The words ‘Tories’ and ‘action’ sit very strangely together ….”

And nearly all shit action like building new choo-choos.

Meanwhile, Wes Streeting is mainlining Milton Friedman, proposing more use of the private sector than the Tories have done in a decade: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65638171. I’m not going to vote Labour, but Conservative fearmongering about voting for 3rd parties won’t work for me.

Grist
Grist
2 years ago

Er, “Rabid”. Rapid porcupines are uncatchable…

Bloke on M4
Bloke on M4
2 years ago

Grist,

“Knowing several Tory ministers (by reputation only, I hasten to add; I’d rather become intimate with a rapid porcupine), I never cease to be amazed at just how lazy and stupid they are. It does disabuse one from believing conspiracy theories.”

I got involved in Conservative activism for about a year, met a few MPs and ministers casually. I’ve also done a few software projects for government and heard things. Everything indicates that reading Dominic Cummings is about the closest thing to reality.

If they were actually ruthless 4 dimensional chess playing bastards, they’d be doing a lot better, they’d have done a lot more. They’d have dismantled all the various job creation schemes for socialists in government, torn up the railways, ended the BBC license fee etc etc. No brainer to do these things.

Noel C
Noel C
2 years ago

Grist – I think rapid rabid porcupines could be the basis for a decent horror movie.

Jimmers
Jimmers
2 years ago

He has no intention of lowering any real trade barriers. He means talking about trade as an excuse to be tied closer to the EU. The response from Brussels will be ‘you need to be in the SM for closer trade links’, to which Starmer will bend over and be royally shafted, using the excuse that he has to do it to get better EU trade.
And then when he’s kicked out of office for being the useless, spineless Lefty he really is, he’ll walk in to a cushy EU job. Just what Blair wanted but could’t quite manage.

Arthur the cat
Arthur the cat
2 years ago

@Jimmers: I thought Blair wanted to be recognised as God’s representative on Earth.

Steve
Steve
2 years ago

Jimmers, yes, that’s the plan.

Keep the Replacement Migration dinghies humming, give children and foreigners the vote, Rejoin by 2030.

But at least the Conservatives banned laughing gas.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
2 years ago

“ Grist – I think rapid rabid porcupines could be the basis for a decent horror movie.”

They’ll also make a good substitute when Steve’s lions are otherwise engaged.

John Galt
2 years ago

I think rapid rabid porcupines could be the basis for a decent horror movie.

Clearly you’ve missed the cinematic masterpiece that is “Cocaine Bear”? Right up there with “Sharknado” it is.

Lockers
Lockers
2 years ago

“Why not just abolish all the import restrictions right now?”

This (and those imposed by that lot over there) is exactly what I go to every time. People debate tarrifs and barriers as if they just exist and then things need to done to manage it all. They’re put in place by the same cunts that then want to be paid to negotiate away this, that, and the other aspects of them. The whole trade / tarrif thing is a a grift by non-productive types in politics and the civil service. Flush it all away and let Hans in Bremen and Harry in Birmingham sort their own shit out.

jgh
jgh
2 years ago

Just abolish import tarrifs.
yebbut, we need those barriers to protect our farmers, otherwise they’ll be undercut by foreigners.
But if we rejoin the EU there will be no trade barriers to protect our farmers from being undercut by foreigners, a 50p bottle of Polish milk would cost 50p.
yebbut, that’s different, if we were in the EU they wouldn’t undercut us, would they?

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