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It’s the underlying which is fascinating here

“Civil servants inside the Home Office have been waving through asylum claims for foreign nationals with known histories of sexual offending. That is not a grey area.”

OK, so deprt them.

Civil servants who have knowingly let foreign sex offenders into Britain would be prosecuted under a Reform UK government, and face losing their jobs and pensions.

OK. And:

The spokesman added: “The integrity of the UK immigration system is paramount. We operate within a robust framework of safeguards and quality assurance measures to ensure that all claims are thoroughly assessed, decisions are well-founded, and protection is granted only to those who meet the established criteria.”

Ah, well, yes, but.

I claim no internal knowledge here, this is from outside everyone talking about this. But what if certain former nationals are now those lowly paid immigration officers wh are becoming partial to certain of their countrymen?

This is not all that far fetched. Allocation of council housing in Tower Hamlets is said to be – said to be, to put it mildly – influenced by former national origin after all.

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Grist
Grist
9 hours ago

This is what happens in the public sector. Having spent years over the last few decates in NHS hospitals you hear a lot of chatter from the nurses who are 98% black (the number of nurses, not their shades, so more properly 98% of whom are black) and I know that many Jamaican nationals are treated here free of charge for many operations, the most extreme of which was a young lady receiving dialysis paid for by a group of nurses pulling a sickie and working as a “bank” nurse for another AHA, which gets them a small fortune…

Jonathan
Jonathan
5 hours ago
Reply to  Grist

Whole thread on ‘X’ about the setting up of ethnic fiefdoms within the NHS:

https://x.com/maxtempers/status/1950914932033126738

Ethnic-enclaves
Ottokring
Ottokring
9 hours ago

Partially, but the real malfeasants are the middle class liberals, with their degrees in humanities ( sorry pot, kettle here ) who usually sign these off.

Ethnic groups tend to stick together, so there is an aspect of lottery in your explanation, Tim. Of course some do hit the jackpot.

Steve
Steve
2 hours ago
Reply to  Ottokring

Yarp, the problem is not so much Mohammed at the council employing 16 of his brothers and cousins, also called Mohammed, to mow the lawns in the park. That’s bog standard ethnic grifting and we’ve seen it before with the Irish.

It’s annoying, but it’s traditional graft, we have means of cleaning up such Edgar Rices.

It’s the thin-lipped, bespectacled white woman with multiple university degrees in man hate and a house full of cats you should watch out for.

The kind who unironically knelt for George Floyd (lol), frets about “Palestinian children” (but not British child victims of grooming gangs, which are a right wing myth), was a strident maskie and vaxie during COVID, and thinks the biggest threat to Britain is the cheeky little white boy from Netflix’s Adolescence. They’re more dangeresque, because they’re motivated by ideological malice (personality disorder writ political) rather than simple gimmes.

Case in point: the Wallace excruciation treatment of the former First Minister of Scotland, Alex Salmond, by a monstrous regiment of HR catladies. The more you learn about the facts of that case, the more you realise how sociopathic the “be kind” mob are. Salmond was a good boy leftie and a once-per-generation political rock star whose personal charisma and canny campaigning instincts allowed an entire generation of talentless losers to become full time members of parliament and generously compensated civil servants in his wake. Yet look how they massacred their boy. And imagine how they’d treat us.

It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.

Grist
Grist
9 hours ago

Grr, to early the “paid for” referring to the flights and cabs…

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
9 hours ago

Six immigration officers have been charged with stealing from migrants and laundering the proceeds of the thefts.

The six officers were suspended and arrested after a Home Office investigation into thefts from migrants and laundering money between August 2021 and November 2022.

They were subsequently charged with concealing, disguising, converting, transferring or removing criminal property under the Proceeds of Crime Act.

They also face prosecution for misconduct in public office, which carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment as a common law offence tried at a crown court.

One of the officers was also charged with obtaining leave to enter and remain in the UK by deception, and possessing an identity document with improper intent.

From the Telegraph .

That last one AKA as illegal immigrant!

JuliaM
JuliaM
8 hours ago

‘OK, so deprt them.’

The civil servants? We can’t even seem to bloody sack them!

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
8 hours ago

The other problem (and Reform are missing this) is people just not giving a crap. What is the path of least resistance? Letting someone in our having to do a load of work explaining why.

The real answer is that you make granting asylum hard. The home secretary personally approves individuals and groups. Then you can’t have many.

Jonathan
Jonathan
5 hours ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

Make refusal the default and force them to write a 50 page document explaining any other decision.

Steve
Steve
2 hours ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

They need people who have successful experience in the private sector, because they need to understand pressure points, incentives, deciders and influencers, and how to get people to do the last thing they want to do (their jobs) whilst sacking most of em. Those are bog standard traits required in the private sector if you don’t want to be a wagedrone.

One of the reasons Parliament has become so ineffectual is because it’s full of thickos who’ve never succeeded at anything except complete lack of self awareness and getting on a party list full of other mongs. That includes blowhard ex-or-current Tory MPs for the most part.

Your average McDonald’s franchise owner has a lot more experience successfully leading other people to deliver a service in a complex legal and commercial environment than the average MP. We’re letting PE teachers, Club 18-30 reps and – worst of all – lawyers make our laws, for some reason, then wondering why nothing works anymore.

Here’s my modest proposal: all would-be elected representatives must first pass a terrifying game of cat and mouse with Richard O’Brien

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Jim
Jim
29 minutes ago
Reply to  Western Bloke

The real answer is that you make granting asylum hard. The home secretary personally approves individuals and groups. Then you can’t have many.”

Aka the French solution to cheap Japanese VCRs:

‘Yes of course you can import video recorders into France from Japan, they just can only be imported through this one very small port where one customs officer works one day a week, when he’s not on holiday (which is quite a lot). And he has to open every single box to check there’s no drugs or illegal weapons inside’.

jgh
jgh
11 minutes ago
Reply to  Jim

Oh, and they must be SECAM instead of PAL as used in Japan and 45% of the rest of the world or NTSC as used in the other 55%.

Bathroom Moose
Bathroom Moose
7 minutes ago
Reply to  Jim

Oh and they have to support SECAM, which has weird features requiring weird technology not found in PAL or NTSC, and is only used in France, Russia, Afghanistan and the French former colonies.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
8 hours ago

The Home Office, the immigration system and local government housing are all staffed by people from low trust cultures using their positions to line their pockets and favour their own. Corrupt as fuck. Allegedly.

Marius
Marius
6 hours ago
Reply to  rhoda klapp

Everywhere there is a significant Pakistani or Bangladeshi minority there’s corruption public sector. If anyone analysed public sector employment in these places they’d find substantial numbers from the same tribe / clan / extended family.

Last edited 6 hours ago by Marius
Jonathan
Jonathan
5 hours ago
Reply to  Marius

See also: Nigerians, Somalis, Indians, Sri Lankans plus just about every other Third-World immigrant group.

John
John
8 hours ago

I recall a contributor on here telling us about how his wife, annoyed at having to pay the immigration health surcharge, (ab)used her position as a GP receptionist to ensure that her fellow countrymen were prioritised for appointments and treatments. He saw nothing wrong with this.

As for the allocation of housing in Tower Hamlets (and most other cities nowadays) some cultures are more used to expecting, offering and receiving inducements than others.

Martin Near The M25
Martin Near The M25
8 hours ago

Prosecuting civil servants? Maybe Reform won’t be so bad after all.

Steve
Steve
3 hours ago

Reform have noticed that the British government does indeed have the authority, as well as the responsibility, to govern Britain. And contrary to what we’ve been told, the British government also gets to decide who enters our country, not “lefty lawyers”, nonce judges, random civil servants, the ECHR, the RNLI, or any of the other excuses.

Splendid stuff. This could catch on.

Of course, this means war and the entire Blob Cinematic Universe will say or do anything to destroy Farage and Reform, and they’ve got 3 years to do it. I hope he has ex-SAS, SBS or IDF bodyguards. You never know when one of these people “the security services were aware of” might be nearby.

Bathroom Moose
Bathroom Moose
1 hour ago

I don’t think you’d even need a new law to do that: it’s presumably adequately covered by Misconduct in Public Office.

There’s case law already saying immigration officers are Public Office:
>In 2008, the Court of Appeal upheld a sentence of nine years for an Immigration and Nationality Directorate officer who was convicted after a trial of issuing refugee passports for financial gain to those not entitled to them (R v John-Ayo (Mofeyishola) [2008] EWCA Crim 1651)
https://thebriberyact.com/2011/11/22/never-judge-a-book-by-its-cover-why-the-first-bribery-act-case-isnt/

I don’t think it’s a stretch to argue that “knowingly not applying immigration law when deciding a case” would constitute MiPO, even if the motive can be shown to be racism and not personal gain.

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