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Well, yes Polly, they do

Somehow, the grooming gangs of Rotherham cause more visceral disgust and outcry than exploitation of these equally vulnerable victims procured for the lusts of the wealthy.

Tens of 17 year olds being well paid to give blowjobs is indeed different from thousands, tens of thousands, of our own raped for decades.

Odd that, eh?

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JuliaM
JuliaM
8 hours ago

Nothing about Keir Starmer’s life purpose, attitudes, tastes, morals or values resembles Mandelson’s and his venal world of corrupted power, where mega-billions buy anyone anything.

What? Ukrainian rent boys, millionaires buying his clothes for him, a special act of Parliament to guarantee a soft exit when he’s finally defenestrated from No 10?

You’re having a laugh, Polly, or you’ve been on the gin!

Martin Near The M25
Martin Near The M25
8 hours ago
Reply to  JuliaM

Yep, apart from all those dodgy things he did he’s a paragon of virtue. And appointing the “Prince of Darkness” as ambassador. How could he have possibly suspected?

Agammamon
Agammamon
49 minutes ago

Its hilarious – ‘he couldn’t possibly have known!’

But its his job to know. A Chief Executive is *useless* if they ‘don’t know’. If he didn’t know then he is incompetent and should be sacked just for that.

Steve
Steve
8 hours ago

Somehow, the grooming gangs of Rotherham cause more visceral disgust and outcry

It’s a seeping wound that has never been cleaned, drained and healed. Almost as soon as the original Rotherham story broke, the media and collective politicians couldn’t wait to change the subject to Jimmy Savile.

They’ve never stopped the Islamic rape gangs, the Home Office is importing more every day.

They never changed the official culture of denialism, the police and Home Office simply retreated into an entrenched culture of blatant lying about Diverse rapes, and using numberwang to pretend it’s not a real problem.

They never punished anybody in police or social services for effectively pimping out helpless little girls to Mohammed and pals.

That’s why the rape gangs still cause anger and resentment among people who care about vulnerable British children. An open sore must be closed or it’ll become infected.

You’ll notice that people who don’t give a fuck about British children are usually ostentatious in demonstrating their supposed empathy for children in Gaza. The British establishment has never cared about the prolewhites. There’s a cross party consensus that white working class Brits are scum, and deserve to be replaced.

Deveril
Deveril
8 hours ago
Reply to  Steve

Steve – It’s a seeping wound that has never been cleaned, drained and healed. 

I cannot think of a worse crime in the history of this country.

Deveril
Deveril
8 hours ago

Was Epstein anally branding his victims, dousing them in petrol whilst dancing around them with illuminated cigarette lighters, feeding them into mincers, or otherwise murdering them? Was it he sexually molesting five year olds? Was he enabled (if not actively assisted) by police and social services? Did he have protesting parents arrested? Does he have family members who cheerlead for him, and a political-journalist class which continues – a la Toynbee – to try to distract from and diminish his activities in the name of the very ideology which created this problem in the first place?

If not, Pol, then fuck off you deranged old witch.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
8 hours ago

It’s also worth noting that very shortly 17 year olds are just about to be declared adults so we already consider them mature enough to choose their own path through life.

As an aside the Epstein was reminded of an old joke, which I think applies here:

Would you have sex with Prince Andrew for $1?

What do you think I am?

OK, would you have sex with Prince Andrew for $10,000?

Well, now you’re talking.

I say this because of my comment the other day that Mandy was quite cheap at, what, $100k all in including gifts and stays? So that $100k to a young woman would also be expected to have very good returns.

Norman
Norman
8 hours ago

Hell, I would have sex with Prince Andrew for $10,000. For $100,000 I’d do it twice. Were the cunt to pay off my mortgage I’d even spend the weekend. I can be stoic when necessary.

Michael van der Riet
Michael van der Riet
8 hours ago
Reply to  Norman

I can take the shit if you can take the pain.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
26 minutes ago

Chacun à son goût. Many homosexualists are harmless. and some are even conservative politically. But what disgusts me about buggery is the immersion of an organ of generation into an organ of excretion.

andyf
andyf
6 hours ago
Reply to  Norman

The important thing is to practice safe sex, if not with the Prince, then certainly with you wife afterwards.

Norman
Norman
6 hours ago
Reply to  andyf

Practice makes perfect. The important thing is to bank the cash. The wife would know, anyway.

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Ottokring
Ottokring
6 hours ago
Reply to  Norman

Yeah but I bet you’d demand a lot more to do it with Fergie.
I’d probably have to hire a diving suit first.

😮

Norman
Norman
6 hours ago
Reply to  Ottokring

I’d certainly require, ah, prosthetics.

Deveril
Deveril
6 hours ago
Reply to  Norman

I’d require a fucking lobotomy.

Mr Womby
Mr Womby
6 hours ago
Reply to  Ottokring

You’re all too fussy. Or perhaps I’m just desperate.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
34 minutes ago
Reply to  Norman

Not recommended at any age, Norman; but, at our age, vigorous buggery tends to lead to anal leakage and incontinence…

PiP Community Leader
PiP Community Leader
8 hours ago

They may be “our own” but clearly not Polly’s own.

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
8 hours ago

Stopped clock time as Polly actual reveals a genuine fact.

‘This one episode risks justifying the wildest conspiracy theories zipping round the ether about the Bilderberg group, the new world order, Freemasons, Davos and a thousand others’

Several on here see the ‘conspiracies’ around the WEF and Bilderberg as fictitious – that’s an increasingly untenable position in the wake of this. Whether it will have any impact on these shadowy cabals is anyone’s guess – probably not but we now can see clearly the extent of their depravity.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
5 hours ago
Reply to  Van_Patten

That Epstein existed pretty well negates the conspiracy theory. If the “conspiracy” was as profound as suggested, why would it need an Epstein as go-between & fixer?

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
4 hours ago
Reply to  Van_Patten

It’s just People of the same trade meeting together for merriment and diversion, so what harm could that possibly do?,

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
8 hours ago

It’s always tough when Steve gets to the keyboard earlier than me. I feel rather akin to the Jack Lemmon character in ‘Glengarry Glen Ross’

‘Your name is Levene??’

‘Yes’

‘You call yourself a salesperson, you sonuvabitch??’

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I still don’t understand the reason for this level of public dislike for a good and serious man

KEK – He isn’t serious other than seriously guilty of innumerable acts of high treason and other offences which should ideally lead to a capital sentence, following something I’ll be pushing Reform to initiate – the equivalent of the Nuremberg trials. Indeed given her support for the reprehensible Blair/ Brown regime and this one, Toynbee should be on a list of potential defendants – the Hans Fritzsche of the trial.

  • Deliberate handover of the Chagos Islands
  • Grooming Gangs
  • The online Safety Act
  • The Family Farms Tax
  • The destruction of pubs
  • Attempt to place Islamophobia into law

All of these are acts of treason. None can be defended in all conscience – it’s high time this man, and all the other supporters of his grotesque ideology were made to answer for their crimes. Justice demands no less…

Norman
Norman
7 hours ago
Reply to  Van_Patten

“He’s a pompous, fatuous, deluded cunt, Polly. But his primary failing is his (candidly) mystifying sense of rectitude and obvious distaste for politics and politicians. He has decided that he knows what the country needs, and will simply legislate it into being, just as he would persuade the judge in a courtroom of the merit of his own argument. He has utterly failed to understand that society and government don’t work like that.”

Grist
Grist
8 hours ago

We should never forget that poor Mary Louisa has had her share of cruel abuse in the past which doubtless colours her emotions on this. A cruel one eyed Scotchman lured her into his arms and then cruelly wounded her. Mind you, she was 53 at the time and the wounds were purely metaphorical but nevertheless deeply hurting to one of such sensitivity and stupidity…

Michael van der Riet
Michael van der Riet
8 hours ago

It could reasonably be construed that PT is defending the grooming gangs.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
4 hours ago

It wouldn’t surprise me she was part of that leftie group that supported the PIE.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 hour ago

Good guess, BiND, but, actually, she wasn’t. IIRC, she wrote an article in the Graun (1977?) condemning PIE – unlike ‘liberationists’ such as Harman, Dromey, Hewitt et al…

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 hours ago

For people in Toynbee’s circle, caring about foreigners is de rigueur, whilst caring about 12 year old English girls is just so vulgar don’t you know?

Interested
Interested
8 hours ago

See also the outcry over Gaza versus the silence over Iran, or (in the US), the rioting over Trump’s ICE deporting illegal rapists and murderers versus Obama’s ICE being celebrated for deporting 3x the number.

I must consult Theophrastus’s amazing government-approved dictionary for the permitted definition of ‘conspiracy theory’ to see whether we’re allowed to notice any of this or not.

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
5 hours ago
Reply to  Interested

Just watch out – the CIA has been known to pursue overseas operations – as have MI6….

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
56 minutes ago
Reply to  Van_Patten

You obsessively repeat your fatuous, evidence-free claims, oblivious to the fact that they say more about you than me.

For the record:
I have no connection with MI6, MI5, CIA or any similar organisation, and I never have.
I post only on this forum, because life is short and I have a busy life beyond the internet.

Van_Patten
Van_Patten
1 minute ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

Because of course intelligence services would never deal in misdirection and misinformation – heaven forbid…

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
1 hour ago
Reply to  Interested

Interested

Not only do you think you can define words as you will, but also – unsurprisingly – you misquote me (even – extraordinarily – when you link to what I said!) and so you make stuff up – as conspiracy theorists do…

Now, I never said that definitions were in a “government-approved dictionary”. Rather, I said: “The meaning of a term is its socially accepted use(s) as recorded in authoritative dictionaries.”

‘Authoritative’ is not a synonym for ‘approved’. Authoritative English dictionaries are those, primarily from Oxford (UK English) and Merriam-Webster (US English), that offer deep historical context, comprehensive word coverage, and rigorous usage documentation. The OED is widely considered the most authoritative, tracing the history of over 500,000 words.

Words are wise men’s counters, they do but reckon by them: but they are the money of fools” – Thomas Hobbes Leviathan (1651)

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
48 minutes ago
Reply to  Interested

See also the outcry over Gaza versus the silence over Iran…

Yes!

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john77
john77
5 hours ago

“equally” is a lie. Epstein neither had, nor wanted, access to 13-year-old girls whose “home” life was so bad that they were taken into Local Authority “care”. The word “care” is put in inverted coomas for a reason.

David
David
1 hour ago
Reply to  john77

I thought care was short for, “we don’t really care.”

Agammamon
Agammamon
51 minutes ago

Interestingly enough – the government’s response to the exposure of both scandals was the same – deny, deny, deny, then arrest those talking about it.

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