Starmer to unveil digital ID cards in plan set to ignite civil liberties row
‘Brit card’ already facing opposition from privacy campaigners as government looks for ways to tackle illegal immigration
A “Brit” card would be the most un-English thing ever. And yes, I do mean un-English. Who cares what the Celts think?
I’ve decided to stop being angry, now the blood pressure’s hit 200 and just laugh at the clowns as they try a bit of juggling…
Your’re the man in today’s Matt cartoon and I claim my £5.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/matt-cartoons-september-2025/
Richard Burgon actually said something sensible on this matter. That is how serious it is.
To be fair, I expect he had to copy it off of someone. I can’t imagine that he came up with it himself.
The cheeky fuckers really have forgotten that they are the servants, haven’t they? I signed this a few days ago when it was on about 70,000. It’s now over 600,000 (and has gone up by 50,000 in the last hour).
Do you have a link?
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194
GBNews had the story this morning. Before they ran it, it was under 500,000. It’s now 617,000.
750,000 now.
They never believed they were the servants in the first place, Interested. We saw that with Covid.
Watched Lisa Nandy on BBC Breakfast and apparently it will be compulsory to have one but you’ll never be asked to produce it except by your employer. In which case, given that we already have NI numbers, what’s the point?
The Left, in panic at the rise of Reform, following their authoritarian instincts.
Here’s a link to the petition aganst:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194
My usual question. On what basis do they issue the cards? If the cards are compulsory then possession of a card must be a “right”. And that is a right everyone currently legally in the UK will have. But how will they assess that “legally” starting from where you are now? Brits have never needed “proof of identity” & a lot of people successfully conduct their lives without it. So they’ll have to issue cards to people with no PoI.
Said before. This will be a wonderful opportunity. Slip over to the UK on my passport. Park the car at a mate’s & leave my kit in the boot. Tog myself out in Oxfam, abjure washing for a few days & get nice & grubby. I’m now a dosser been “living on the streets”. Chuck a brick through a shop window & wait to be arrested. Brief court appearance, short suspended & I now have a social worker to help me get the Brit ID card I’m entitled to in any name I fancy. Open all sorts of doors that will. Couple of weeks & driving back to Spain well happy. My social security money will be going in my new bank account. That’s worth about 6k a year isn’t it? And that’s before I really get going.
No, what’s going to happen is the Brit-Card is going to be used to regularise all these illegals you’re currently infested with. They’ll all disappear off the figures. So proving what a “good idea it’s been.
I thought this too. How do they ‘know’ who has the right to be here? Whats the ultimate proof? Is the DID going to be biometric? Not much point if its not, you’ll end up with people with several DIDs otherwise – I’m Muhammed Irfan, Mohammed Irfan is someone who looks very like me, but isn’t me.
What is the secure and accurate dataset for who is supposed to be here? Answer, there isn’t one. The only way this could work is if everyone had to present themselves at a location with whatever bits of paper are supposed to prove residency and have their details and biometrics taken, and a completely new database created. And even that wouldn’t work because it would run in to the problem that there are loads of people who were born here who currently have no paperwork at all, and no way of obtaining it – like you say, a UK citizen who has been living rough will need to be registered, but with what proof of residency? Heck what proof they even are who they say they are?
I don’t think we need have any worry about it, because its going to become rapidly apparent that its utterly unworkable, precisely because the authorities have no idea who is here, and who has a right to be here. So the idea you can create an ID card system that excludes certain categories of people is nonsense. Like you say I don’t think that this is designed to exclude anyone. Its designed to basically legalise all the illegals.
I wonder if they’ll remember to cut off of the Day of the Jackal trick? And even if they did by checking the births and deaths register, how will they know if someone who was born in the UK has died abroad? If you knew of a UK citizen who was born in the UK around your birthdate (and thus would be on the UK births register) but had emigrated and died abroad (and thus wasn’t on the UK deaths register) could you use that ID to claim a UK DID identity? Heck you could probably do it with someone who was born in the UK but had emigrated and is still alive. How are they going to stop people living outside the UK having their identities stolen?
BiS has it right. Its primary purpose is to regularise the irregulars. Don’t forget the ethnicity of the civil servants doing the processing. Its secondary purpose will be to oppress the rest of us further and make our lives more constrained.
Absolutely. Who imagines that the Home Office won’t just fast-track every boat boy and illegal in the country?
I was thinking exactly that. I’m Lionel Chambers, and so’s my wife.
As I commented on X:
We can be certain of two things:
1. Both costs and timescales will overrun by a factor of PI(), at least.
2. When it does eventually come on line it will be used for all the cases they deny it will be used for and will make sod all differece to illegal immigration.
Well, the LibDems are happy with proposals “as long as it isn’t compulsary”.